※ 引述《ricebug ( )》之铭言： : ※ 引述《spock2230 (spock)》之铭言： : : 没有新消息，只不过补充一下外电相关报导罢了。 : 乱乱翻，加减看。 : : http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13332 : : Lamar Odom: Is It Too Late? : : By: Eric Pincus Last Updated: 7/15/09 4:46 PM ET : : Assuming the Los Angeles Lakers cut guard Sun Yue before August 1st, they are : : committed to 12 players for the 2009/10 season at a total payroll of $83.8 : : million. : 孙大圣八月一号说掰掰，预计开季时湖人有十二名球员，八千三百八十万的薪资。 : : Add in some $13.9 million in luxury taxes and the Lakers are on the hook for : : $97.8 million. : 加上要付出的一千三百九十万豪华税，球员支出来到了九千七百八十万。 : : Making an offer to free agent forward Lamar Odom took significant : : deliberation between General Manger Mitch Kupchak and the Buss family. : : Faced with the prospect of record overhead and a much tighter profit margin, : : owner Dr. Jerry Buss was quoted by Kupchak as saying, "But we're so damn : : competitive." : 老板和总管之间就LO的合约进行讨论，面对紧绷的状况(翻得很混) : 老板引用了总管所说的，我们还是这麽他喵的有竞争力。 : : In giving Odom a chance to make at least $27 million over three years, the : : Lakers felt they were doing the right by Lamar while making the sound : : basketball decision despite the exorbitant cost. : : Unless the Utah Jazz match Paul Millsap's offer sheet and the Portland Trail : : Blazers turn their attention to Lamar, the Lakers may be the only team with : : bidding power. : 湖人认为给三年两千七百万已经仁至义尽。 : 除非宅爵跟进小米的约使阿拓必须转移注意力到LO身上， : 湖人也许是(市场上)唯一有权叫价的球队。 : : A $34 million Mid-Level Exception deal over five years from a team like the : : Miami HEAT, still isn't close to what the Lakers have offered (even with the : : state tax advantage in Florida - although that perk would be on just half : : Lamar's salary, road games are taxed locally) : : Odom's reluctance to take what the team considers a generous offer has led to : : a stalemate. For now the Lakers have taken it off the table and are : : considering other options. : 就算热火提出五年三千四百万的中产，也没办法跟湖人相提并论， : 即使佛州有税务上的优势，可以让LO的薪水少砍一半。 : 在客场打球，课税还是在地主所在地。 : (请看总版#1ANlkcOw claus的文章) : ￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣ : LO不愿意接受这份球团认为慷慨的合约让状况陷入僵局。 : 现在湖人(／‵Д′)／~ ╧╧，而且决定考虑其他选择。 : : Strictly from a financial point of view, it makes sense to go after a veteran : : like Joe Smith with a minimum contract despite the drop down in talent. : : Smith is an experienced defender who could help behind Andrew Bynum and Pau : : Gasol even if it's a net loss on the floor considering Lamar's versatility. : : Odom at an $8 million starting salary would cost $16 million with tax and tip : : the total payroll to $113.8 million. : : Smith at the veteran's minimum would up L.A.'s payroll to $99.4 million. : : Buss was willing to authorize that additional $14.4 million but to a player : : who takes that as an insult? : 从财务的观点，找些有经验的老兵给个最小的合约也是合情合理的， : 如Joe Smith。他擅长防守，能帮助霸男及嘎兽， : 虽然这样势必要牺牲能在球场上全面发挥的LO。 : 付给LO八百万等於实质上要支出一千六百万， : 并让球队总支出到达 一亿一千三百八十万。 : Smith顶多让湖人总支出到 九千九百四十万。 : Buss愿意接受只为了一个球员多付一千四百四十万 的结果吗? : : In truth, average salary hasn't been an issue for some time. The debate has : : always been about years. : : It took some time to get L.A. to three years but they got there. Odom's camp : : wants five. : 事实上，钱不是问题，问题在年限。湖人出三年，LO想要五年。 : : Five years would make Odom the lone Laker under a guaranteed contract in : : 2013/14, with recently signed Ron Artest owning a player option. Committed : : $10 million to a 35-year-old Odom when the team may be embarking on a rebuild : : is not a consideration. : 五年能让LO身穿紫金战袍到13-14球季，跟刚签约的阿泰一起。 : 届时LO三十五岁，有一千万合约，在可能要重建的球队中可能不再被考虑。 : : Four years for Odom may be workable with Andrew Bynum's $16.1 million on the : : team's option and just Luke Walton and Artest locked in for a combined $13.1 : : million - although adding in near $10 million for Odom could hamper L.A.'s : : ability to reload. : 给LO四年的约也许是可行的， : 届时加上霸男的有球队选择权的约，有一千六百一十万， : 加上天行者和(有球员选择权)的阿泰，合计一千三百一十万， : --虽然能够多给LO近一千万，是超过了湖人的负荷能力。 : (这里需要请高手解释一下) : : There's a good chance the Lakers lock down Kobe Bryant until the end of the : : 2014 season but Odom doesn't exactly have Bryant's cachet. : : It comes down to the same decision the Boston Celtics had to make on James : : Posey a year ago. They offered three years and Posey wanted four. Boston : : passed and never found a suitable replacement. : : Even without Kevin Garnett, would the Celtics have lost Game 7 to the Orlando : : Magic if Posey was defending Hedo Turkoglu (25 points and 12 assists)? : 现在是个让老大留到2014球季结束的好机会， : 但LO并未确实拥有老大的保证。 : ("but Odom doesn't exactly have Bryant's cachet.") : 现在的状况有如一年前的绿衫军与Posey，绿衫军提出三年，但後者想要四年。 : 绿衫军放弃了而且没有找到合适的代替者。 : 即使没有了一打五(误)，在有Posey防守火枪兵(25分12助攻)的情况下 : 绿衫军还会输掉第七战吗? : : Posey ended up struggling in New Orleans, ultimately having surgery to repair : : a meniscus tear, but the Celtics may have given up a chance to win now : : because of distant financial concern in four year's time. : Posey最後因为动手术修复膝盖半月板而结束了在纽奥良的球季， : 但绿衫军也许为了这四年的财务考量放弃了获胜的机会。 : : Odom is looking at his peers including Turkoglu, Ben Gordon, Andersen Varejao : : and Andrea Bargnani (via contract extension) who were all recipients of big : : dollars and years from their respective teams. : Odom想和他的同侪如火枪兵，假摔王，Ben Gordon，Andrea Bargnani一样， : 从各自的球队拿到肥约。 : : Lamar is coming off a championship run. : : There's no black and white answer. The Lakers and Dr. Buss aren't getting : : outbid by a team with cap space. With revenue projections taking a dive next : : year, the tax bill will only climb. : LO正在脱离冠军的行列。这没有绝对的答案，湖人和老板并未在薪资空间上得利。 : 当下季收入计画出现下降时，税单只会往上爬。 : : Odom has had a mixed career as a Laker with unreached potential as a star : : dogged by inconsistent play . . . but Lamar has always been also a positive : : voice in the locker room. This year he accepted a demotion to the bench but : : was such a key part of the rotation, he was just as responsible for the : : championship as any starter. : LO并没有在湖人发挥出他明星等级的潜力，而且表现并不稳定。 : 但LO在更衣室里总是发出正面的声音， : 他也接受了板凳的角色，但仍然是这个轮替中的关键。 : 他尽责地为冠军付出，就跟任何先发球员一样。 : : In the end, there remains a viable chance the saber rattling ceases and both : : parties hash out a compromise. : : If not, finding a sign-and-trade could be quite difficult. The Lakers will : : only take the perfect combination of players back both in talent and price. : 最後，仍然有机会让拔出咖哩棒互砍的双方找出一个妥协方案的机会。 : (按:这里有本人的恶趣味，请多包涵) : 如果不行，寻求先签後换也是非常难的。 : 湖人将只找一个完美的球员能力与价格兼得的方法。 : : The Chicago Bulls aren't likely to give up both Kirk Hinrich and Joakim Noah. : : The Charlotte Bobcats aren't going to package Raymond Felton and Boris Diaw. : : Rumors of a Miami offer including Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers appear : : to be nothing more than internet chatter. : : For now, Kupchak will explore the options but instead of giving Odom leverage : : via sign and trade, Mitch is more likely to explore minimum options like : : Smith, Drew Gooden (a stretch at the price?) or Brian Skinner. : 公牛不会同时放掉Hinrich and Noah， : 山猫的也不会把Felton跟屌爷一起打包. : 要热火送出Beasley和Chalmers？想太多。 : 现在，总管要找到选项，除了先签後换让LO能有操作空间这一招。 : 总管更有可能寻求Smith，Drew Gooden或是Brian Skinner， : : The end of this story hasn't been written but the desire remains on both : : sides to get something done. : : Unfortunately for Lamar, the Lakers are the team with the spending power. : : Once Dr. Buss moves on, there may be no turning back and Odom could end up : : in a similar position as Trevor Ariza . . . signing for less money in a : : smaller market with a diminished chance at a second title. : 故事还没结束，但是双方都有一些事要完成。 : 对LO来说不幸的是，湖人是扩张中的强权。 : 当老板前进，他们就不会回头，LO也就会落得Ariza一般的下场-- : 在一个小的市场拿了一份小的合约，然後缩小了第二个冠军的机会。 : : (You can follow Eric Pincus on Twitter at http://www.Twitter.com/EricPincus.) 我觉得这篇有讲到一个重点 湖人能拿冠军的原因是Kobe，Odom有贡献但不会是主要的原因 如果湖人要签下Odom，原因也只会是希望合约期间能再拿下冠军 那如果不幸的赛季中Kobe缺阵呢？Odom不是那个答案，这在之前已经证明过了 当球队中有Kobe、Gasol现在又来一个Artest，Odom的角色在哪里? 如果是第六人或是补上Bynum的洞，1000万可能不是老板可接受的价钱 另外5年合约的问题，给4年我都觉得可怕了，这也证明Odom不是湖人的未来 如果球团对Odom的定位是这样，那老板就不可能给更高的价钱 现在开这种价码，不管是4年约、5年约，大概都是看在今年这个冠军盃 至於Odom离开会不会比较好，就目前而言是不会 没有比湖人更好的价码，甚至连合约总额都没有比较大 更重要的一点是，离开Kobe的球队，一些之前我们看到的问题都会出现 那Odom就变成功能型的球员，这样价码应该会掉的更低 现在的问题应该是该补谁，另外就是万一Bynum养起来，Gasol会不会遇到一样的问题 我们在处理合约显然比其他球队的想法不同 这些承接其他球队合约的状况搞不好会因为评估方式不同，最後都没办法续约 --

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