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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/070326&sportCat=nba 里面有作者的照片 20-30岁黑人女性 Putting Kobe in perspective By Jemele Hill Page 2 Kobe Bryant is better than Michael Jordan. Not more successful. Hasn't had a bigger economic impact. Hasn't won more MVPs. Hasn't won more titles. But he's a better player. KB比MJ优秀。 不是比较成功。 不是带来的商业价值比较大。 不是赢得较多的MVP。 不是赢得较多的冠军 但是他是一个比较优秀的球员。 Kobe can do everything Michael did, and even a few things Michael couldn't do. Kobe is just as good a defender. His killer instinct is just as pronounced. He can shoot, finish and explode. And just like Jordan, the more he's pissed off, the more unstoppable he is. At the very least, Kobe's scoring spree over the last week should put to rest a ny lingering doubts that he's the best player in the NBA. Yes, better than Stev e Nash, who is the best point guard, but not the lethal force that Kobe is. Yes , better than Dwyane Wade, who is certainly closer to the Kobe-Jordan level tha n LeBron James, but D-Wade's game is not as polished as Kobe's. Kobe's streak of four straight 50-points-plus games is something none of those players can do, and it's something that hasn't been done since Wilt Chamberlain , who had an NBA-record seven straight 50-point games. Truthfully, Kobe should have tacked another 50 on Golden State on Sunday night. KB可以做到任何MJ可以做到的事情,甚至一些MJ自己无法做到的。 KB身为一个防守者一样顶尖。他的杀手本能一样众所皆知。他可以投篮得分、平一己之力 结束比赛,或是大爆发疯狂取分。另外和MJ一样的,他越生气,他就越无法被阻挡。 至少,KB上一个礼拜的得分潮应该可以解除任何对於他是现今NBA最优秀球员的疑虑。是 的,比Nash优秀,当今最佳控球後卫也不具有有KB的破坏力。是的,甚是比Wade优秀,当 今最接近(比LB大帝还接近)MJ-KB领域的球员也不具有KB熟练的技巧。 KB连4场50+分的纪录是其他球员没有办法办到的,一个至张大帅以来(连续7场)都没有 任何球员可以半到的。说实话,周日晚上为勇士的比赛KB本来应该至少得50分以上的。 Of course, the idea that Kobe is better than Jordan -- or even the best player in this league -- is as repugnant to some folks as a rectal exam. Even though K obe has proven himself under pressure countless times, he gets the A-Rod treatm ent. Kobe can't please anyone. And it doesn't help that most people suffer from revi sionist history when it comes to Jordan, forgetting that he was just as poor a teammate and a ball hog and that he ran off coach Doug Collins like Kobe ran of f Phil Jackson the first time. In fact, you could argue that Jordan was even worse. Far as we know, Kobe hasn' t jacked up any of his teammates the way Jordan punched out Steve Kerr and Will Perdue at practice. 当然,光是KB比MJ优秀,甚至是联盟最优秀球员的这个想法,对於一些人来说和直肠检查 一样的感到反感。尽管KB已经无数次的在压力极大的情况中证明自己的实力,但是他仍然 得到了A-Rod式的待遇。 KB无法满足任何人。更别提许多人仍然生活於Jordan的光辉年代里,下意识的忽略MJ自己 同样的不是一位好队友,同样的黏球,甚至像KB把PJ赶走一样把教练Collins也赶走。 你甚至可以讲说MJ这方面更糟。到目前为止,并没有任何报导说KB有像MJ在练习的时候揍 了Kerr 和 Perdue一样的暴力行为。 Kobe will never be forgiven for Shaq's departure, but you're delusional if you think Jordan wouldn't have had any ego issues playing alongside a player with S haq's star power. The best-player argument shouldn't be determined by personal dislike. But if yo u want to take it there, fine. Jordan was hardly the ideal husband, but only th e tabloids were brave enough to venture into his personal life. And what about those gambling issues? If Jordan's life had been covered like Kobe's, we would have an entirely different opinion of His Airness. Besides a different level of media scrutiny, there was definitely a difference in the level of competition during Jordan's heyday compared to now. KB永远都无法摆脱SHAQ离开LA的责任,但你一定是一个理想主义者如果你认为MJ不会有同 样的「老大问题」如果他和SHAQ一般超级巨星级同队。 谁是最优秀的球员不应该牵扯到各人喜好。但是如果硬是要牵扯到球员的私人面,MJ和 模范老公丝毫无法沾上一点边。胆敢紧盯着MJ的私生活的记者少之又少。还有那些赌博 问题呢?如果MJ的私人生活受到KB等级的狗仔待遇的话,我们对於乔丹大帝应该会有截 然不同的印象。 Yesterday's NBA player certainly was more fundamentally sound, but t here's no question that today's player is bigger, stronger and faster. When Jor dan played, he was a singular force that could not be equaled. Jordan was guard ed by the likes of John Starks and Joe Dumars, who were fine players but weren' t nearly as skilled or physically imposing as LeBron, D-Wade, Tracy McGrady or even Vince Carter. The NBA is tougher now. Kobe, like Michael, is surrounded with mediocre to below-average talent, and Ph oenix, Dallas and San Antonio are all better than the Utah, Portland and the Ch arles Barkley-led Phoenix team that Michael met in the NBA Finals. Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson and Patrick Ewing will be among the best center s ever, but none of them affected the league the way Shaq and Tim Duncan have. There are two two-time MVPs in Kobe's own conference (Duncan, Nash), which is a problem Jordan never faced during his championship runs. Seven-footers weren't launching 3s back then. Magic Johnson and the Lakers were on a downward spiral , and the Pistons were on their last legs. It was Michael and everyone else. Th at's not the case for Kobe. 之前的NBA球员个人基本能力比较纯手,但是毫无疑问的当今的球员身材又高又壮而且速度 又快。MJ打球的时候他是独一无二且无人可批敌的球员。MJ被Starks或Dumars之流的防守 ,都是好球员但是不具有JBK D-Wade, TMac 或VC等人的身材条件或是防守技巧。 NBA现在比较难混了。 如同MJ一样,KB被平均水准以下的球员所辅佐。PHX DAL SAS都比当初MJ在NBA总冠军赛所 遭遇的UTA POR 和巴爷所领军的PHX都还要实力坚强。 欧拉珠旺,海军上将,Ewing将会是有史以来最优秀的中锋之一,但他们对球赛的影响力 都无法和SHAQ或TD相比。在KB的西区里有两位两度MVP的主(TD NASH),而MJ在他的冠军 之路上不曾有类似的遭遇。当年没有七尺会是三分炮塔,魔术强森和当时的湖人正在走下 坡,活塞也正在使出最後吃奶的力气。当时是MJ和其他人(的区别)。这不是目前KB所 面对的情形。 The shame of it is that Kobe might finish his career without a MVP, even though his ability can be compared only to that of Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain. All t his time we've been looking for a player who is better than Jordan, but most of us can't get beyond whether we like or dislike Kobe as a person to recognize h is contributions to the game. Ultimately the MVP award will go to either Nash or Dirk Nowitzki, who are deser ving this season, but neither are as good as Kobe. Dallas and Phoenix are stron g enough to make the playoffs without their stars. The Lakers, however, are a l ottery team without Kobe. Now that's a valuable player. 最讽刺的是,KB可能退休了都还无法得到一座MVP,尽管他的能力足以和MJ或张大帅相比 。这时间我们都在找一个比MJ还要优秀的球员,但是我们仍然拘泥於我们个人私底下喜不 喜欢KB本身而忽略了他对球赛本身的影响力和贡献。 本季最终MVP还是会颁给DIRK或是NASH两位符合人选之一,但两位都没有KB的那麽优秀。 DAL和PHX没有当家球星都仍然足以进入季後赛。反观LAL,如果没有KB的话会是一支乐透 区的球队。 这才就做有价值的球员。 --



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1F:推 koge:头推 04/02 13:45
2F:推 chochofish:有些不太认同 转去nba版会被狂干 04/02 13:46
3F:推 van2003:这在KOBE版被讨论过了,满主观的意见,千万别转去NAB版 04/02 13:47
4F:推 Kobe824:我比较好奇的是MJ揍人的详情...有大大们知道吗? 04/02 13:59
5F:推 JuliusErving:中肯到一种鸡掰的地步...! 04/02 14:02
6F:推 RickymarU:MJ脾气差 练习动怒也不是新闻 04/02 14:03
7F:推 Kobe824:听说Kobe练习时也曾气到把水瓶踢飞过半场... 04/02 14:05
8F:推 van2003:他和KERR起冲突好像是在练习时他对KERRㄧ直说垃圾话,搞到 04/02 14:08
9F:→ van2003:KERR超不爽,和普度打架好像是MJ说他的球技侮辱了普度大学 04/02 14:10
10F:→ van2003:叫大家以後不准叫他普度,乔丹脾气差?好胜心太强是真的,他렠 04/02 14:12
11F:→ van2003:根本不需要动怒,他的嘴巴就够可怕了,和巴克利不同的是,他선 04/02 14:14
12F:→ van2003:讲话不带脏字,却充满侮辱和挑衅的意味,KOBE後来也把的这招 04/02 14:16
13F:→ van2003:垃圾话招式学起来,咍咍 04/02 14:19
14F:推 ww3:Kobe得分能力比MJ强这无庸置疑啦..不过MJ的破坏力还是比Kobe强 04/02 14:29
15F:→ ww3:光看MJ在命中率...抄截...篮板和助攻方面的绩效...Kobe还有努 04/02 14:30
16F:→ ww3:力空间..但如果纯粹比得分目前Kobe大概是天下无敌了... 04/02 14:31
17F:推 theowing:中肯 KB的得分手段和爆发力已经超越了MJ 04/02 14:41
18F:推 originbook:虽然我是MJ迷 但是比得分 Kobe真的是天下无敌 04/02 15:26
19F:推 LOJ:乔丹的朋友大概也只有老巴吧... 04/02 15:51
20F:推 thindust:标准引战文 最扯的一段就是小牛等队比以前的爵士强.... 04/02 16:43
21F:推 JackX:的确 MJ的私生活也没好到哪 但却没人会拿他私生活来批判 04/02 17:22
22F:→ JackX:这点 KB 受的待遇 实在不公平 04/02 17:23
23F:推 van2003:地位的差距就是影响两人的最大评价,看看去年KOBE的广告就 04/02 17:45
24F:→ van2003:知道,饱受人们极端的好恶对待,好的人说他早已超越乔丹,恶 04/02 17:46
25F:→ van2003:的人觉得他连屁的不是,很难给予他中肯的评价,28岁的KOBE就 04/02 17:47
26F:→ van2003:被说球技超越乔丹,对乔丹来说并不公平,不过KOBE受到不公平 04/02 17:50
27F:→ van2003:待遇恐怕更多,从篮球金童变成联盟N01,他的地位却没有如乔ꐠ 04/02 17:54
28F:→ van2003:丹般跃升的趋势,不过KOBE应该也算乔丹的朋友吧 04/02 17:56
29F:推 NBASCIDM:等KOBE退休在拿来和MJ比较吧 04/02 18:11
30F:推 young23:KB的得分能力比Jordan强无庸置疑?不可思议的说法 04/02 18:49
31F:→ young23:10届得分王 生涯平均超过30分 哪一个是KB可以达到的? 04/02 18:50
32F:推 histidine:至少81分MJ做不到阿 04/02 18:54
33F:→ young23:这篇应该转至NBA版的 和NBA迷一起分享不是极好 04/02 18:56
34F:→ young23:5次MVP? 10次得分王? 总冠军赛6次MVP? 最佳防守球员 04/02 18:57
35F:→ young23:抄截王? 搔搔头 哪一个KB可以办到阿? 04/02 18:58
36F:→ kevincy:即使不转录也是有人要来酸 真是无聊 文章没看吗 时代背景 04/02 19:09
37F:→ kevincy:进攻强度 防守者身材素质都与当年不同了 04/02 19:10
38F:→ van2003:算啦,Y大的推文看看就好,不要太陷入比较意识 04/02 19:24
39F:推 pett:KB得分能力很强..不过我看不出得分能力哪里强过乔丹=.= 04/02 19:38
40F:→ pett:三分球比较准倒是真的..以乔丹的体能作一些跳投动作更显潇洒꜠ 04/02 19:38
41F:推 shyuanan1:这没有OP吗? 04/02 19:50
42F:推 Keepgoing:推本篇! 辛苦翻译了 也推2楼~ 04/02 22:54
43F:推 ted0217:想要转到NBA版的人就是想战的人.. 04/02 23:24
44F:推 dpogcnn:说真的别人队版自high 垃圾就别来闹 给别人一点空间 04/03 00:21
45F:→ dpogcnn:你爱怎麽想你家的事 别人家的你管不着 知道了吗? 滚吧 04/03 00:22
46F:推 kery0129:老实说~这篇文真的是很有引战的实力..... 04/03 01:19
47F:→ poku1010:这种文 就算是湖人迷也未必能够认同 太主观了 04/03 17:09







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