作者gagabrit (I'm nelly, SO WHAT!!!)
看板LadyGaga
标题Re: [Gaga] Judas 歌词
时间Mon Apr 18 20:58:12 2011
自从这首歌出来之後
旋律马上掳获了我!!!
真的超棒的
关於
基督教和
天主教人士们那麽生气的原因
除了
犹大背叛耶稣的故事外
我找到了一些解释
我个人是觉得他们把这首歌联想的
太夸张了...
这几篇是我找到讨论颇激烈的(
共5篇)
我以分享的心来翻译
但程度没有那麽好
有翻错请告知^^
网友ㄧ
Philippians in the bible second chapter states every knee shall bow every
tongue will confess that Jesus is the Lord ,so one day lady gaga will be on
her knees saying Jesus is the Lord. i really truly believe that there is demon
in lady gaga she needs to pray because the route she is on is leading her
straight to hell and shes trying to bring her little monsters as she calls
them with her ,Judas denied my Jesus why would you sing about him
(新约圣经之)腓立比书指出
任何人都应向耶稣屈膝
任何嘴都应承认耶稣是上帝
Lady Gaga有一天将会屈膝并说出耶稣是上帝
我深深的相信Lady Gaga体内有一只恶魔
她需要祷告
因为她目前的人生道路正引领着她迈向地狱
而且她正试图将小怪兽们一起带去受难
Judas否认了我的耶稣
为什麽要歌颂他呢?
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网友二 ←
这篇很长很激动且恐同,看前先做好准备
The song is about ending religion. Specifically the song is stating that the
world will be better when religion is gone, especially Christianity. She
keeps saying, "I'll bring him down, I'll bring him down, a king with no crown.
" Jesus has many titles, "King of the Jews" was the title they placed on his
cross when he was crucified.
Christians call him "King of Kings, Lord of Lords". But Gaga wants to "bring
down the King with no crown". It's a Euphemism. She's saying she can bring
down religion, and bring down Christianity. A king with no crown means that
Jesus doesn't rule over her. She knows Biblically he ought to, but she
doesn't agree with the Bible. Instead, she sees Judas as doing something that
should have happened a long time ago...by "killing" Christ, he's "killed"
religion. If religion dies, then Gay people won't be persecuted anymore. Plus
people wouldn't need to feel bad about having affairs, murder ect. Gaga views
Religion as the problem and she views Judas as the answer. Kill the Messiah,
and thusly kill the belief system that "holds back" what she sees as human
progress. Kill religion and Gay people can get married and people can have
abortions and we as humans can establish our own set of right and wrong. The
Bible mentions a time when "Every man did what was right in his own eye".
Gaga wants this. In this way, she becomes a New Messiah for Gay people and
the like. In other words she doesn't want to be made to feel like the
lifestyle she leads (Gay people lead) should be looked down upon. "I'm a holy
fool" means she is of tired religion. It just doesn't work for her. "In
the Cultural sense, I just speak in future tense" -- in other words if you
follow me, I can show you man's true destiny and it does not involve
Christianity. There is a better future that doesn't involve God, Christ,
the Bible or other religions.
In other words, no, she is not Christian. Gaga sold her soul years ago. And
"Judas" is a double entente. She means "Judas" as in the guy who betrayed
Jesus and "Judas", the name of her own personal demon.
这首歌所要表达的就是终结宗教
它明确的指出了没有宗教的世界将会更美好
特别针对基督教
Gaga在歌词里提到
I'll bring him down, A king with no crown.
(我要让他下台,没有王冠的国王)
耶稣有很多称号
"犹太人的国王"是人们在他被钉时留在他的十字架上的
基督徒们称他为"万王之王"
但Gaga却想把他搞下台
这是ㄧ个委婉词
Gaga真正要表达的是
她要弄垮宗教
弄垮基督教
没有王冠的国王代表耶稣并没有权力统治她
她知道照圣经来说她应该耶稣被统治
不过并她不同意圣经
反之
她认为犹大做的事早该发生了
藉着犹大除掉基督
这个宗教也不复存在
而宗教灭亡後
同性恋者也不会再被迫害
人们也不会再对外遇和谋杀等等感到不适当
Gaga将宗教看做ㄧ个难题
而犹大就是那个问题的解答
杀死弥赛亚
以破坏这个信仰所不允许的事
但Gaga认为这些限制会阻碍到人类发展
消灭宗教後
同性恋就能结婚
女人就能堕胎
人们就能自己建立是非对错的标准
圣经提到
"每个人都做在他眼中认为对的事"
Gaga就是这样
朝这个路线发展
她就会变同性恋们和赞同她的人的新的弥赛亚
换句话说
她不想让他人将她的生活方式(和同性恋们的生活方式)被鄙视
I'm a Holy Fool这句在讲她已对宗教感到厌倦
宗教对她没有用
In the Cultural sense, I just speak in future tense这句
换句话说
如果你跟随我Lady Gaga
我会让你知道ㄧ个人真正的命运是什麽
而那不包含基督教
未来将有更好的世界
没有耶稣,没有基督也没有圣经
换句话说
Gaga不是基督教徒
她几年前卖了她的灵魂
"犹大"这词语含双关
这个背叛耶稣的人同时也是她体内的恶魔的名字
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看了两篇恐怖又负面的
来看看三篇
较正面的转换一下心情吧
以下几篇有几篇有引用Gaga本人接受访谈的话
也有解释
Gaga对Judas的解释
网友ㄧ
Taken from an interview: "It's about leaving your darkness behind in order to
come into the light," she added the other day. "I have a lot of things that
have haunted me from my past - choices, men, drug abuse, being afraid to go
back to New York, confronting old romances - and Judas represents, for me,
something that is bad for me that I can't escape. I keep going back and forth
between the darkness and the light in order to understand who I am from"
Well it might be about her personal experience. I think she's in a
relationship with Luc Carl, and based off what I've heard he's a mean one.
从某一个访谈中可以了解到
Gaga说
"Judas这首歌是关於
想迎接光明的话
就必须将一切的黑暗抛的远远的"
几天後她又追加了几点
"我有很多过去的阴霾困扰着我
选择
男人
药物滥用
害怕回到纽约
面对旧情事等
对我而言
Judas代表了对我不好的但我却逃不开的事
为了了解我是谁
我不断的在黑暗和光明中来回穿梭"
这首歌应该是和她的个人经验有关
她和Luc Carl有过一段恋情
根据我所听到的
就是在讲Luc Carl
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网友二
Judas is used metaphorically in the song. In the Bible, Judas betrays Jesus
and she uses Judas as a direct connection to men who betray her. In the
simplest form, the song talks about falling in love with men who betray you.
Judas是用来隐喻的
圣经里
犹大背叛了耶稣
简单来讲
歌就是在讲爱上了一个背叛你的男人
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网友三
it is based on what she has been thru as a person with men , who have done
her wrong in all the ways that a person could ... i think people need to leave
the religion out of it becouse she is not puting anything down she is clearly
talking about her past .. maybe if people would watch her interviews they
would know insted of talking out of these **** . she belives in god & has said
it many times & for us who are her little monsters , we call ourself that
because she is one of the many singers out there that belives in equal riqhts
, she is smart enough to see that being gay is not a crime & is not a sin
becouse god is a loveing & forgiveing god ... soo pleasee stop talking ****
.!! (:
这首歌是根据她活到现在所经历的一些和男人的经验
ㄧ些对她犯下极严重错误的人
我觉得大家应该将这首歌与宗教脱离
因为她完全没有在玷污任何事
她很明显的就在讲她的过去
如果看过访谈的人就会了解
且不会讲出这些XXX
她讲过很多次她相信上帝
我们这些会称自己为小怪兽的人
是因为她是那些相信人人平等的歌手们之ㄧ
她也够聪明
能体会同性恋并不是罪
因为上帝是富含着爱和包容的
所以请停止讲ㄧ些****
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我已经很尽力翻了
有错可以
纠正ㄧ下喔
另外
关於犹大的故事我上网找半天还是很混乱
只看到出卖耶稣害被抓、三次不认主这两个
有没有更神的板友能分享更多犹大的事
听音乐学历史^^
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1F:推 likeaprayer:推一个 整理的很仔细@@ 基本上犹大的故事众说纷纭 记 04/18 21:20
2F:→ likeaprayer:得也有看过其实犹大是自愿接下背叛者罪名这种说法 04/18 21:21
3F:推 RingoA:网友二的翻译看起来怎麽好像其实蛮正面的呀:) 04/18 21:21
4F:→ likeaprayer:还有看过一部电影描述犹大是吸血鬼之祖~~ 04/18 21:22
5F:推 herohoney:楼上可以发一篇文解释阿!!!XDD 04/18 21:23
6F:→ gagabrit:2006年出土的"犹大福音"上记载的是说犹大是依耶稣之命背 04/18 21:23
7F:→ gagabrit:判他 04/18 21:23
8F:→ gagabrit:网友二我觉得很恐怖耶>"< 04/18 21:24
9F:推 jeff795024:不看内容其实网友的逻辑很清楚XD 04/18 21:33
10F:推 cluster159:推~好多涵义~太强大了 04/18 22:46
11F:推 minamityt:三次不认主不认是彼得= = 04/18 22:52
12F:→ minamityt:那个"犹大福音"一直让我想到石内卜XD 04/18 22:54
13F:→ minamityt:我记得她在today show有说"有人说我是个不虔诚的女人 04/18 23:00
14F:→ minamityt:所以小怪兽们 一起去教会吧" 其实有时候会有点怕 但听完 04/18 23:01
15F:→ minamityt:嘎嘎的解释就觉得OK 都说"Jesus is my virtue"了啊 04/18 23:03
16F:→ minamityt:上面打了两个"不认"XDDDDDDDDDD 04/18 23:04
17F:推 pattytao518:网友2真的好可怕.....想的有点过头了吧.... 04/18 23:37
18F:→ minamityt:bring him down 是这样翻的喔(= = ?)/ 04/18 23:43
19F:推 boyolu042:有人可以用个英翻中歌词吗??? 04/19 14:08
20F:→ gagabrit:抱歉翻错>"<请大家提供正解 04/19 18:21
21F:推 minamityt:我不是说ga大啦 我是说网友怎麽这样解读>'< 04/19 18:30
22F:推 milk7777:推认真! 07/04 01:08