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The Clipper's D isn't as bad as you think 快艇的防守没有想像中的那麽烂 原文 http://ppt.cc/jKGF By Kevin Arnovitz The Clippers' defense can look bad -- really bad. But it's through no fault of the starting unit. 快艇的防守看起来很烂,超烂der。但是他们的先发一点都不烂。 Coming into the season, the Los Angeles Clippers subscribed to the belief that an elite defense can spring from a smart defensive system. This is a long-standing debate in the NBA, one that’s gotten more interesting since defenses really started to systematize in the mid-1990s. Defensive stoppers are nice, but only a handful of players big and small can change the game when the other team has the ball. A stopper is a luxury, and if you’re not in possession of at least one, you better come up with a strategic way to defend the half court. Doc Rivers has a way, one crafted and refined during the Boston Celtics’ recent championship era. The Celtics routinely led the league in defense, and in the process they provided further evidence that, in the NBA, systems matter. Deploy a tight one and good defenders can become great ones; the identity of your wing defenders won’t necessarily matter. The Clippers figured to benefit from Rivers’ implementation of this system. They finished a respectable ninth in defensive efficiency last season, and it was reasonable to believe Doc's system would make them better -- and certainly no worse. 这个球季快艇找来了近年打造超赛(Celtics)强权的教头Doc Rivers操刀,打算打造坚强 的防守系统。 防守系统的概念始於90年代中期,然後一直被大家讨论到现在。当然队上有个大锁是最好 的,但是球场上球员有的高有的壮有的快,要找个每个人都守得住的多功能大锁未免太过 奢侈。更不要提当你连一把大锁都没有时,你得想个方法搞定对方的半场进攻。一个好的 系统能让你把小锁当大锁,也让侧翼的大锁变得没那麽必要。 快艇看中了Rivers的防守系统而把他找来,上个球季他们防守还算不错,防守效率排名全 联盟第九。所以我们有理由相信Rivers的系统会让他们更好,当然,绝对不会更烂。 Installing a complicated system takes time, though, especially for a unit with two new starting wings and a retooled second unit. But for even the most patient, the early returns haven’t been promising for the Clippers, who rank 27th overall in defensive efficiency. That’s their high-water mark for the season thanks to a solid effort in a 102-98 win at Minnesota on Wednesday night, only one of two times in 12 games this season that the Clippers have held their opponent to less than a point per possession. For a frame of reference, the Pacers’ No. 1-ranked defense has allowed more than a point per possession in only one game so far -- and barely. 然而,建立复杂的防守系统是需要时间的,尤其是侧翼的两人都是新同学,替补也来了不 少新同学。但是快艇现在排名27的防守效率,再有耐性也会觉得这到底是三小?对了,这 样的防守效率还是在以102比98打赢对灰狼的硬仗後的本季新高。在开季的前12场比赛中 ,有其中一半让对手每回合平均超过1分。反观全联盟第一防守强队溜马,只有一场比赛 让对手每回合平均超过1分。 Those ugly numbers suggest that if you tuned in to watch the Clippers, you’d get a whiff of that rotten defense the second the ball was tipped. J.J. Redick and Jared Dudley must be the Belmonte and Joselito of NBA wing defenders, with Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan playing the role of Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee. After all, a team can’t give up 105.3 points per 100 possessions unless their starters are utterly clueless, right? 你应该会这样解读:快艇是没在防守的。侧翼的J.J. Redick和Jared Dudley跟吉祥物没 两样,禁区双宝Blake Griffin和DeAndre Jordan则是像McGee一样的搞笑卖萌咖。要不是 先发这麽烂,那要怎麽每100回合败掉105.3分? (McGee:我都受伤了还损我……) That’s the crazy thing about the Clippers -- not only are the starters not terrible, they’re actually very good. The starting lineup of Chris Paul, Redick, Dudley, Griffin and Jordan has played together for almost 40 percent of the team’s total minutes this season. As a unit, the starters surrender only 99.3 points per 100 possessions, which would rank sixth in the NBA. 不可思议的事实是:快艇先发的防守不只不差,还可以算是不错。Chris Paul, Redick, Dudley, Griffin和Jordan组成的先发阵容有40%的时间同时在场上,当他们同时在场上时 ,快艇每100回合丢掉99.3分,这个数字全联盟排名第六。 Take one Clippers starter off the floor and the Clippers still give up considerably less than the league average. For instance, the Clippers’ top four performers -- Paul, Redick, Griffin and Jordan -- maintain that 99.3 defensive rating, and they’ve been on the floor for almost exactly one-half the action this season. When those four guys aren’t on the floor, that rating drops to 111.3 -- beyond awful, like 2005-06 Sonics, worst-of-all-time awful. 一个先发下场时,快艇的防守效率仍然优於联盟平均。如果只看Paul, Redick, Griffin 和 Jordan,数据维持在99.3,而他们四人搭上一个替补的时间也有一节左右。然而,当 他们同时下去休息时,这个数字暴增到111.3,简直烂透了。直追NBA史上的烂中之烂, 05-06的超音速。 Put two Clippers starters on the bench, and the team defense is still strong -- if Redick is one of the three remaining starters on the court. So long as a lineup has a strong, starter-heavy DNA, the Clippers are essentially OK. 当两个先发下场时,防守还算是不错,即使Redick是留在场上的那三个之一,防守也还算 可以。 In other words, if you want to experience a full frontal view of the Clippers ’ unsightly defense, you’ll generally have to wait until the beginning of the second quarter or the end of the third quarter. That’s when the team defense hemorrhages: 换句话说,如果你想欣赏快艇的破烂防守,那你得等到差不多第二节时,还有第三节後段 。来看看他们是怎麽大失血吧。 When Byron Mullens is on the floor, the Clippers are 18.2 points worse defensively. His defensive rating of 120.7 is far and away the worse this season for any player who sees the court regularly, with Jordan Hamilton a very distant second at 116.4. In fact, even though Mullens plays only 20 percent of the Clippers’ minutes, if he’s on the bench at a given moment, the team goes from a 27th-ranked defense to one that would be ranked 17th, just behind the Rockets. It’s virtually unheard of for a fringe rotation player to have such an adverse effect on a team’s overall defensive numbers. Byron Mullens在场上时,快艇的防守效率直接扣18.2分。他的defensive rating是120.7 ,整个NBA罕见的烂(Jordan Hamilton是116.4)。即使Mullens只有20%的时间在场上,他 还是把整队的防守效率从联盟第17拖到了27,只比火箭队好一点点。还没听过有什麽角色 球员能对球队防守数据产生如此大的「效用」。 The Clippers desperately miss Eric Bledsoe, whose bench units last season paced the team defensively. The Clippers forced a turnover on more than one-sixth of the possessions when Bledsoe was on the floor while giving up only 97.5 points per 100 possessions. The “Tribe Called Bench” unit spearheaded by Bledsoe was one of the league’s stingiest, but this season, the gnats off the bench have been replaced by the nots. 快艇应该很想念Eric Bledsoe去年在板凳给予球队的防守能量,当Bledsoe在场上时,快 艇的防守效率是97.5,而且每六回合可以造成对方一次失误。Bledsoe带领的板凳军团有 着联盟数一数二的防守,但是这个球季他去太阳了,没有会防守的人顶上他的位子。 It’s early in the season, but among the 10 most commonly used lineups by the Clippers, five would qualify as the league’s worst defense. Four of those five units are led by a backcourt of Darren Collison and Jamal Crawford. 球季才刚开始,但是快艇的10人轮值中,有其中5个防守是联盟数一数二的烂,其中4个是 Darren Collison and Jamal Crawford为首的板凳军团。 Coming into the season, Rivers knew he’d be without the kind of legitimate ball-pressuring point guard who presides as the head of the snake of his defensive system -- a Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley or Bledsoe. Rivers also knew that he wouldn’t have the services of a circa 2008 Kevin Garnett or Kendrick Perkins, nor would the Clippers have a sinewy wing defender like James Posey or Tony Allen at their disposal. Rivers本季来到快艇时就知道他没有Rajon Rondo、Avery Bradley或是Bledsoe来运转他 的防守系统,他也知道快艇没有08年的Kevin Garnett或Kendrick Perkins。当然,快艇 也没有James Posey或是Tony Allen这类的侧翼大锁。 At some point, Rivers will have to decide whether a team with championship aspirations can afford to give Mullens meaningful minutes. Rivers will also have to monitor Collison and Crawford -- or figure out who else on the roster can best mitigate their weaknesses. The Clippers should probably dig through the bargain bin to see if there’s a big man on the market who can give them 8 to 10 minutes a night of defensive relief, because the points are there. One such big man happens to reside about a 20-minute drive from their practice facility and has played in Rivers’ system before. 在某些方面来说,Rivers如果要冲击冠军,那麽他得考量如何运用Mullens, Collison和 Crawford,以及该让谁来补上他们的防守大洞。他们也该从自由市场上搞来个每场比赛能 上场10分钟左右的防守长人。 But for all the defensive shortcomings of the Clippers’ roster, the performance of those who play the big minutes has been at least average, and often very good. We saw it during the first quarter in Minneapolis on Wednesday night against a Wolves team that features two potent big men who force defenses into tricky big-to-big rotations. Griffin and Jordan were well-synced, while Paul capably kept Ricky Rubio pinned against the sideline for much of the night coming off pick-and-rolls. The wings performed admirably, if a little foul-happy. Redick chased Kevin Martin while Dudley was an ace in transition while he was on the floor. 快艇的先发防守通常还算不错,在上一场对灰狼的比赛中可以看出,Griffin和Jordan这 组长人在轮转上做的不错,Paul也在後场锁住Ricky Rubio,侧翼的Redick和Dudley也守 得可圈可点。 An NBA team is a complex organism, and the sum of its overall record is the aggregate performances of different units and combinations. The Clippers’ No. 27 defensive ranking doesn’t lie, but it also requires some digging because context matters in basketball. 一支球队是十几个人组成的有机体,快艇接近垫底的防守数据就摆在那,但是深入分析之 後可以看出更多的事情。 简单整理:先发防守不错 + 替补防守超超超烂 = 快艇防守超烂 觉得今年BG和DJ在攻防两端都有成长 不过防守端还是有进步空间(经验?) 禁区的防守还是如同面纸一般一直被撕开 大家觉得这篇讲得如何?Mullens在防守端是真的如此不堪吗 --



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◆ From: 114.35.175.71 ※ 编辑: KobeinCloud 来自: 114.35.175.71 (11/22 14:36)
1F:推 MilkTea0509:其实Coach Nick也是说一样的事情,先发没问题,板凳有大 11/22 15:45
2F:推 MilkTea0509:问题,尤其是板凳的禁区,烂到爆炸,一定要再找人 11/22 15:45
3F:推 HidakaShu:看比赛有感,替补上场时如果手感不顺通常就会被防守拖 11/22 15:51
4F:→ HidakaShu:垮开始落後or被追分 11/22 15:51
5F:→ HidakaShu:除了布雷兽之外,少了屠夫跟Odom真的有差 11/22 15:51
6F:→ HidakaShu:最後感谢翻译,超生动der~ 11/22 15:52
7F:推 Aggro:看Odom能不能找回来吧 他这种工作做的还不错 反正得分不看他 11/22 17:45
8F:推 Cousins15:大大我是kings的板主 这篇分析文可以借我转回kings 11/22 17:51
9F:→ Cousins15:讨论吗? 我们接下来要跟你们进行二连战 11/22 17:52
10F:→ Cousins15:想帮板上增加一些议题 11/22 17:52
11F:→ KobeinCloud:好的请转o_O 11/22 17:54
12F:推 Cousins15:Tks! 如果国王板的讨论有对贵板球员不中肯的 11/22 18:11
13F:→ Cousins15:也请欢迎指正,大家多互相交流吧!:) 11/22 18:12
14F:推 MilkTea0509:屠夫比Hollins好太多了,屠夫虽然不强,可是他知道要干 11/22 21:29
15F:推 MilkTea0509:嘛,也不太犯错,跟Fisher公用一样,为什麽Phil Jackson 11/22 21:29
16F:推 MilkTea0509:爱用Fisher,他不强,可是他知道三角怎麽跑 11/22 21:30
17F:推 MilkTea0509:Hollins实在是,经常看到他被Doc Rivers骂 11/22 21:30
18F:推 ken3616001:推,目前有消息说好像要追Chris Wilcox 11/22 22:45
19F:推 totemist:有这消息喔~? 可以提供连结吗~~ 谢谢 11/22 23:08
20F:推 ken3616001:http://ppt.cc/j0YD 11/22 23:49
21F:→ ken3616001:Odom的备胎 11/22 23:49
22F:推 totemist:查了wiki 难怪odom会被骂这样惨 = = 数据掉成这样 ... 11/23 18:44
23F:推 MilkTea0509:数据掉是一回事,拿800万打那样才是问题,拿100万打那个 11/23 20:07
24F:推 MilkTea0509:数据我不会说甚麽 11/23 20:07
25F:推 ken3616001:认同,数据是一回事,但体能和体型更是一大问题 11/23 21:18
26F:→ ken3616001:开季那样的身体状态,实在愧对於职业球员的身分 11/23 21:19
27F:→ ken3616001:是遇到VDN这种有耐心的教练,慢慢给他养,不然一般教练 11/23 21:19
28F:→ ken3616001:直接给他冰到季末,管他八百万还几百万 11/23 21:20
29F:推 jghs121:Wilcox很痛痛 11/28 15:00
30F:推 jghs121:Barnes侧翼防守还不错吧? 11/28 15:07







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