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标题[问题] 想问问这个诈骗里的遗産处置实务上违法吗
时间Tue Jul 19 22:25:30 2022
[edit] 我可能问的不够清楚. 我只是好奇有人真的用此诈骗里提到的手法呑遗産的吗? 不是说我想问问大家此诈骗的真实性.
昨天收到了个 Skype 邀请，对於我这个时不时就被 Skype 垃圾讯息轰炸的人来说已经见
怪不怪了
不过不一样的是，这个 Skype 邀请只传了个挥手的 emoji，而不像其他广告一样啪啪贴
好几页。
因此好奇的接受邀请，想看看葫藘里卖什麽药。
这个人号称是北方信托银行的 Peter Yi，找我是为了处理客户的遗産？
我查了一下的确是有这人，头像也是相同的。虽然盗用的可能性不小。
https://t.ly/KX1U
不过好奇的问一下，他提的 proposal 没有违法嫌疑吗？定存到期不会转入普通帐户？人
死了难道国税局不会发现？若是诈骗的话是要怎麽骗钱？先要一笔遗産税？
以下是他的提案。开头的客套话就不贴了。不确定人名真假所以遗産所有人姓名也先用星
号码掉：
I have been in search of someone with the same lastname as yours because it
coincidentally corresponds to the name of a customer who happens to be from
Taiwan.
Mr. ****** *** made a fixed deposit with my bank in 2012 for 36 calendar
months and the due date for the maturity of the said deposit was the 18th of
June 2015.
Unfortunately, my client died along with his nuclear family in France while
on sabbatical leave in the summer of 2013. He died without leaving a Will.
Several efforts made to find his extended family through his embassy proved
abortive.
My bank management is yet to know about his death but I was able to know
about it because he was a very good friend of mine, though I was his personal
account officer.
I decided to contact you in order to see how best we can assist each other on
this matter as I want to introduce you to the bank as the next of kin to
this account because you share the same lastname with Mr. ****** ***.
This transaction will be executed without breaching any United States law,
success is guaranteed if we co-operate on this. The bank will release the
account to you as the next of kin to the account.
I am an understanding man and I expect the same from you. The amount involved
is $18,500,000 United States Dollars. I propose we share the proceeds 50:50,
I think this is fair.
I will give you all the necessary information about this transaction when I
get your response.
I anticipate your cooperation. Treat this proposal with utmost
confidentiality and urgency for a 100% success.
Do not take undue advantage of the trust I have bestowed on you.
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1F：→ jesil: 这都能考虑... 看来诈骗集团还有巨大空间能生存 07/19 22:45
先说一下我不是在考虑要接受 offer, 就想知道实务上真的有人这样呑遗産的吗?
我还上 LinkedIn 跟本人通知了有人冒他名在 Skype 上诈骗了
就单纯想问法律问题而已
※ 编辑: dobedobedo (109.171.202.115 沙乌地阿拉伯), 07/19/2022 22:50:20
2F：推 JustSad: 树大必有枯枝，人多必有白痴。 07/19 22:50
※ 编辑: dobedobedo (109.171.202.115 沙乌地阿拉伯), 07/19/2022 22:52:29
※ 编辑: dobedobedo (109.171.202.115 沙乌地阿拉伯), 07/19/2022 22:59:23
3F：推 JustSad: 简单说，如果你确信自己不会上当，不必多问… 07/19 23:07
4F：→ JustSad: 如果没自信、不懂，不要自以为聪明陪他们玩。 07/19 23:08
5F：→ JustSad: 别低估他们的话术与诱惑，别高估自己的抵抗力与智商。 07/19 23:09
谢谢提醒呀, 我搞到他的 proposal 後就把他封锁了.
不过想知道, 假设一个无依无亲之人挂了,
是不是会有人假冒哪个国外的亲戚来冒领遗産?
感觉假造身份这一定有伪造文书的问题.
还是说这种伪造身份呑别人遗産的事实务上不可能发生呢?
※ 编辑: dobedobedo (109.171.202.115 沙乌地阿拉伯), 07/19/2022 23:42:01
6F：→ maniaque: 一开始就没有所谓的共谋取得他人遗产的可能得逞 07/20 09:25
我查了一下美国的相关处置规定:
https://t.ly/2CI6
若是私人帐户所有人过世并且没有受益人
则帐户金额将入遗産
若遗産所有人没有遗嘱, 则由各州法律决定遗産如何分配
所以银行帐户不会在死後由任何阿猫阿狗接替
那麽剩余遗産在所有者无依无亲的情况下, 不会有假冒的亲属侵占吗?
台湾这边又是如何处置无依无亲者的遗産的?
※ 编辑: dobedobedo (109.171.202.115 沙乌地阿拉伯), 07/20/2022 18:32:46
7F：→ maniaque: 台湾这边四顺位无人,无遗嘱,债务遗产对冲後,剩下归国库 07/21 12:06
8F：→ dobedobedo: 感谢回覆 07/22 02:15