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标题[外电] Knicks have championship formula
时间Sat Jan 5 09:57:36 2013
Knicks have championship formula
They're good enough and deep enough -- and they showed it against the Spurs
By Ian O'Connor | ESPNNewYork.com Updated: January 4, 2013, 2:05 AM ET
原文:http://tinyurl.com/a5zlfc2
Jason Kidd stopped on his way out of Madison Square Garden to measure the
championship worth of the New York Knicks, a franchise that last won it all
seven weeks after the prehistoric point guard was born.
It was the right night to do it, too, the night the Knicks again beat a San
Antonio Spurs team that knows nothing about biblical NBA droughts. Only the
39-year-old Kidd wasn't asked about the Spurs' four titles over the past 14
years, four more than the Knicks have won since 1973. He was asked about the
ring his Dallas Mavericks won two years back, and whether his current team
could replicate the feat.
马刺在过去的14个赛季里夺得了4个总冠军,尼克自从1973年以来没有拿过一个总冠军
,但今天马刺大比分输给了尼克。 赛後有记者问基德两个赛季前他在小牛夺冠的经历
,是否现在这支尼克也有可能重覆当年小牛的成功?
"This team might be deeper than that one," Kidd told ESPNNewYork.com.
“这支球队也许比当年那支小牛来得更有深度,”基德说道。
Deeper than the Dallas team of Kidd, Tyson Chandler and Dirk Nowitzki that
beat the Miami Heat in six.
Kidd used his beautiful basketball mind to break down the matchups, starting
with Nowitzki and Carmelo Anthony. "I mean, it's very similar," he said.
"Melo and Dirk are your high-level players. You have J.R. [Smith] and Jason
Terry. J.J. [Barea] is kind of like Pablo [Prigioni]. [Steve] Novak's like
Peja [Stojakovic], a guy who can stretch the defense and knock down 3's.
Tyson is Tyson."
“我的意思是,这两支球队很类似,”基德继续说道,“ 安东尼和诺维茨基是队里里
高水平的球员,然後你有 JR,小牛有特里,巴里亚有点类似老PP,诺瓦克就像佩贾,
一个能够在场上拉开防守空间然後投进三分球的家伙。 还有钱德勒,钱德勒就是他本
人。”
And Kidd is Kidd, only two years smarter.
还有基德,比两年前更加老练。
"Both teams can score and defend," he said. "Dirk defended, and that's what
helped us win a championship, and that's what Melo's doing now. He's
defending."
“这两支球队都能得分也都会防守,”基德表示,“诺维茨基的防守帮助我们最终夺得
了总冠军,这也是现在安东尼在做的事情,他现在就在贡献着防守。 ”
Kidd was asked if his Knicks could beat Miami and ultimately win the
tournament like his Mavericks did.
有记者问基德,那麽尼克是否也能像当年的小牛一样,最终打败了热火,在总决赛中成
功夺冠?
"I hope so. That's the goal. That's what we're playing for," he said.
"There's been a couple of stretches here that you can see as a very close
reminder [of Dallas]. We had injuries that season, too, and nobody was
thinking about a championship. We were just trying to figure out how to win a
game without Dirk.
“我希望如此,”基德回答道,“这是我们的目标,这就是我们打球的目的所在。我们
这支球队有几个方面确实让人会想到那支小牛,那个赛季我们同样经历了伤病,没有任
何一个球员脑子里想着能得到总冠军。我们只是力求找到怎麽样能在没有诺维茨基的情
况下赢得比赛的胜利。”
"We've faced the same problem here with Melo out. But with our depth and the
guys we have who know how to play, we feel it's very similar. We'll see at
the end."
“在安东尼休战的时候我们也面临同样的问题,但考虑到我们拥有的深度,我们拥有的
球员都知道怎麽打球,我们感觉两支球队真的很像,等一切到了最後时我们再来见分晓
。”
In the end Thursday night, the Knicks made a tough, old military man named
Gregg Popovich cry uncle. The Spurs coach benched his dynasty makers in the
fourth quarter when he realized the Tim Duncans and Manu Ginobilis and Tony
Parkers "were a little low on fuel." Together they watched as the Knicks, in
Popovich's words, "kicked our butt" and finished off their 100-83 victory and
first two-game sweep of the Spurs since 2003.
Enduring his fourth game in five nights, Popovich's substitutions won't earn
him the $250,000 fine he absorbed after sending home his stars rather than
put them through another four-in-five experience in Miami on national TV. But
this surrender of a seven-game winning streak did speak to his newfound
respect for the Knicks, who had come across as emotionally fragile and
physically weak during so much of San Antonio's dominant run.
Do you really think Pop would've been so quick to call it a night had the
Knicks of Mike D'Antoni, Isiah Thomas, Larry Brown, Lenny Wilkens, or Don
Chaney been on the other side?
作为对手,波波维奇称赞了尼克在武僧手下提升了防守的质量。
"They're obviously a totally different group," Popovich said before he
watched Mike Woodson's Knicks pound the Spurs on the boards (48-35) and give
his selfless-to-a-fault team a lesson in sharing the ball (26 assists for the
home team, 14 for the losers).
"And by that I mean no matter what players have been added and changed or
whatever, the mentality, the purposefulness with which they play, the
attention to more defensive detail that I know Mike will demand day after day
-- [the Knicks players] won't win that battle. They may try, but with Mike
Woodson, he's going to demand it over and over again until people understand
the value."
“他们显然是一支完全不同的球队了,”波波维奇说道,“无论他们做了哪些人员上的
变化,精神上的东西很明显,他们打球的目的性、对防守细节更加关注的特质,我知道
这些是武僧每天都会对他们强调的。”
Woodson's commitment to defense, Popovich continued, "helped them become who
they are. Offensively, they've got a lot of talent, but the defense is what
makes you go some distance in the playoffs."
波波维奇继续说道武僧的防守:“这能帮助他们成为他们想要的。在进攻端他们已经拥
有很多人才,但唯有防守才是在季後赛能走得更远的关键。”
Popovich might not have tweaked D'Antoni as conspicuously as Amar'e
Stoudemire did in declaring he'd "never been taught defense in my whole
career," but Pop came close enough. Not that Woodson cared. He only knew he'd
seen what he called "some major slippage" in his team's play, some
D'Antoni-styled slippage on the more violent side of the ball, and so he
showed his players some tape Thursday morning to remind them of how they
opened the season.
The Knicks responded by blowing out an opponent Woodson called "the best team
in basketball," and by extending their record to 10-0 when holding opponents
to less than 90 points, 17-2 when holding them to less than 100.
武僧赛前把马刺形容为现在全联盟最强的球队,但就是如此,尼克却把他们打得落花流
水。本赛季当尼克把对手的得分限制在90分以下时,他们的战绩现在提升到了10胜 0负
。当尼克限制对手的得分不到100分时,他们的战绩是17胜2负。
"The Knicks have obviously changed a bit," Duncan said. "They're more
defensive-minded."
“尼克明显有了很大的变化,”邓肯说道,“他们在防守态度上更加强化了。”
From Popovich on down to the core players who built his team into a monument
to smart, do-whatever-it-takes basketball, the Spurs talked about the Knicks
as if they were talking about themselves.
Before the game, Popovich compared Kidd's dedication to Duncan's, and spoke
of how the point guard infused the Knicks with "a real sense of what
responsibility and professionalism is." After the game, Popovich referred to
Kidd's relentless teammate in Dallas, Chandler, as "a monster who creates so
many problems out on the floor and at the rim."
赛前波波维奇形容基德有着和邓肯一样的奉献精神,称赞基德向尼克灌输了“一种真正
的责任感和职业精神。”赛後,波波维奇又大赞了基德在小牛时的老队友钱德勒,称他
是一个“在场上和篮筐附近制造出如此多麻烦的怪兽。”
On his way out of the winners' locker room, Chandler notarized Kidd's
comparison to their championship Mavericks team. "Especially with our depth,"
he said. "And with the talent and veterans we have on this team.
钱德勒也谈到了基德把现在的尼克拿来和两年前的小牛作对比的话题。“特别是我们的
深度,”钱德勒说道,“还有我们的天赋,还有我们队里拥有的这些老将。”
No, these Knicks are not without their problems. Raymond Felton's injury has
forced Kidd to cover the younger jets at the point, which is akin to asking
an aging safety to play cornerback against a receiver who runs a 4.3 40. And
if Stoudemire looked better off the bench in Game 2 than he did in Game 1,
his reintegration into Melo's lineup remains an unsteady work in progress.
But after Iman Shumpert's return gives them the necessary athletic bounce,
the Knicks will be a staggeringly deep and diversified team with enough
pieces to win it all. Of course, that doesn't mean they will win it all.
当然,尼克也有他们的问题,但是当香波伤愈回归,尼克的深度又将得到提升,他们将
成为一支多样化的球队,他们将拥有足够多的武器去一赢到底。
It only means that should be their goal, not a respectable best-of-seven loss
to LeBron James in the conference finals.
"The whole team," Popovich said of the Knicks, "Mike's got them being active,
covering for each other, trusting each other."
“尼克整个球队,武僧让他们充满了活力,他们互相掩护,彼此信任,”波波维奇说道。
The Knicks have size, a title-hungry superstar, lethal 3-point shooters, an
absurdly high IQ at the point (Prigioni is a poor man's Kidd), an explosive
bench player in the backcourt (Smith), a potentially explosive bench player
in the frontcourt (Stoudemire), and a coach who's connecting on a human level
with his players.
"We're pretty good," Chandler said.
“我们真的很棒,”钱德勒说道。
They're better than pretty good. The Knicks have soundly beaten Miami with
Melo and without him, and they've beaten San Antonio with Melo as a decoy on
the road and with Melo as the leading man at home.
All in all, Kidd said, this team might just be deeper than his Dallas team
that beat LeBron. That doesn't guarantee the Knicks a ticker-tape parade. It
just guarantees them a shot at one.
翻译参考:http://sports.163.com/13/0104/21/8KDI43CT00051CA1.html
我只想说...你们不要只对强队硬阿 XDD 平常防守也是很重要的阿 XD
想到前几场尼克防守的鸟样,不知道POPO他们有没有觉得被球探报告阴了 XD
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※ 编辑: skymay 来自: 111.242.18.110 (01/05 10:00)
1F:推 F7:钱德勒就是他本人........... 01/05 10:01
2F:推 osape:我觉得马刺的策略就是严防瓜,瓜只要一拿到到就被包夹伺候 01/05 10:18
3F:→ osape:而且武僧的招牌台词:可以用强队来试试球队程度一出来後 01/05 10:19
4F:→ osape:就觉得可能会赢,上一次他这麽说是在季初打热火时,结果赢了 01/05 10:20
5F:→ skymay:看上一场其他人都开不了花,其实我是有点怕,所以才说他们 01/05 10:43
6F:→ skymay:不能依赖瓜,不然会赢不了球的 XD 因为马刺很会锁瓜瓜 XD 01/05 10:44
7F:推 Complain:Kidd说PP像JJ有点太客套惹.....擅长的技能恰好相反 XDDDD 01/05 12:00
8F:推 ILNARA:没错 从金块以来 melo打马刺都被popo搞的很惨.... 01/05 12:06
9F:→ ILNARA:但我想也是因为popo很了解melo的一切才有办法~ 01/05 12:07
10F:→ ILNARA:因此反过来推 popo也许是最会用melo的教练了.. 01/05 12:07
11F:→ skymay:为什麽POPO很了解瓜瓜? 他们之间应该没什麽交集吧? 01/05 12:08
12F:→ ILNARA:我也不知道 但自melo进联盟之後 不管季赛 季後赛 popo总是 01/05 12:09
13F:→ skymay:没关系武僧跟POPO很像,NOVAK认证过了 XD 01/05 12:09
14F:→ ILNARA:有办法搞定melo.....在全联盟里面 打马刺特别明显= = 01/05 12:09
15F:→ skymay:是喔 那瓜在金块时打马刺拿过最高分几分阿? 01/05 12:11
16F:推 osape:我觉得马刺的包夹很到位,Melo根本没有出手的空间...orz 01/05 12:11
17F:→ osape:马刺应该特别研究过了。幸好这场是多点开花...XDD 01/05 12:12
18F:推 ILNARA:我哪有在记他拿几分...我只知道他以前被鬼秃拐子拐到不爽 01/05 12:12
19F:→ ILNARA:最後赏鬼秃一个恶意犯规 然後跟包温也斗了好几次.. 01/05 12:13
20F:→ skymay:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 差点忘了你是瓜黑,哪会管瓜拿几分 XDDD 01/05 12:13
21F:→ ILNARA:但在包温最後两年 melo已经不帕包温 吃他吃很爽.. 01/05 12:13
22F:→ ILNARA:只要包夹没上来 melo就把包温磨到低位 包温就守不住了.. 01/05 12:14
23F:→ skymay:那我想问一下JR也跟马刺有恩怨吗? 他好像很爱对马刺爆扣 01/05 12:14
25F:→ ILNARA:没有吧 JR是疯子啊....XD 01/05 12:15
26F:→ skymay:那变态乱说,说JR好像很讨厌马刺 XDDDDDDDDDDD 01/05 12:16
28F:→ skymay:昨天 XD 01/05 12:17
29F:推 ILNARA:我来算一算melo历年对马刺的得分跟命中率..不过好像没04-05 01/05 12:21
30F:推 ILNARA:20.6分 FG% .433 .....唉唷 比我想像中好一点点XD 01/05 12:30
31F:→ ILNARA:有破20分XD 01/05 12:30
32F:→ skymay:你这瓜黑 就只想着瓜瓜很烂 XDDD 不过这样昨天23分有破平 01/05 12:37
33F:→ skymay:均耶 XD 01/05 12:37
34F:推 ILNARA:那是靠出手数得来的呀XD 01/05 12:40
35F:推 ILNARA:我就说嘛 melo今年得分不会少 出手也不会少 01/05 12:42
36F:→ ILNARA:赛前那些什麽melo降低出手的新闻 我都嘛不甩XD 01/05 12:42
37F:→ ILNARA:因为melo正确的使用方式就是少持球 多出手 多分球 01/05 12:43
38F:→ ILNARA:这样威胁性最大 本季大致上也是朝这个模式打 所以他爽到了. 01/05 12:43
39F:→ skymay:那是他不会讲话自己惹祸... XD 01/05 12:44
40F:→ skymay:连拳王都吐他槽 XD 01/05 12:45
41F:→ ILNARA:哈哈 耗呆病没药医 ~ 01/05 12:52
42F:→ ILNARA:现在的尼克 我只希望在三月前能全员健康 才有办法克服魔鬼 01/05 12:53
43F:→ ILNARA:三月 到四月就可以验收本季完全体的威力了.. 01/05 12:54
44F:→ skymay:三月的魔鬼赛程真的好可怕,要靠全员都健康才有办法打的养 01/05 13:08
45F:→ skymay:生点 香波说他不是一月就是二月回来,整个有说等於没说 XD 01/05 13:08
46F:→ achin:至少表示他不会拖到三月啊 XD 01/05 13:56
47F:推 BSH99:香波回来再加上找状态的时间应该要到3月才是正常的香波 01/05 14:11
48F:推 esther81828:香坡慢慢来也可以 三月再正常也OK 总之他一定会很棒的 01/05 18:49