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标题[外电] 谈小酒:不是一个SG,而是超级外线防护罩
时间Sat Oct 27 14:29:53 2012
Ronnie Brewer: Not A Shooting Guard, A Guarding Guard
谈小酒:不是一个得分後卫,而是超级外线防护罩
http://ppt.cc/3e8r
I think @Netw3rk said it best, “Ronnie Brewer isn’t a shooting guard he’s
a guarding guard.”
Ronnie Brewer is one of the best one-on-one defenders in the league, but if
you haven’t heard of him, it’s likely because he isn’t very flashy on the
offensive end. One thing is for sure: he gets the job done on defense. To
show off Brewer’s, dare I say elite, defensive skills, I took a look at how
four very talented shooting guards fared when going up against the defensive
powerhouse that is Ronnie Brewer.
Before I get into this, it should be noted that Ronnie Brewer played fewer
than 25% of his total minutes with Omer Asik, a defensive anchor upfront, so
a lot of his defense came with a limited backstop. Yeah, I just tooted his
horn.
(Keep in mind that all head-to-head statistics are per 36 minutes)
我觉得@Netw3rk说得很好:"小酒并不是一个得分後卫,他是超级防守者。"
小酒绝对是联盟中顶级的1对1防守悍将,如果你还没听过他,那绝对是因为他那很囧
的进攻,不过有一件事是确定的:那就是他的防守真的很棒,让我来告诉你小酒防守有多好
,我拿一些顶级的SG来让大家瞧瞧,小酒的防守能力有多可怕。
在那之前有一个要先提的,就是小酒总上场时间只有少於25%是跟阿西克一起上场,
阿西克直白地说就是防守大靠山,所以小酒大多都是在後场防守。
(此资料皆为PRE36分钟)
First up, Kobe Bryant.
Now, last year, the Bulls and Lakers only played once, and in that game, Kobe
played 35 minutes. 15 of those minutes were against Ronnie Brewer, while the
other 20 were played while Brewer rested on the bench. With Brewer on the
bench, Kobe proceeded to score 32.4 points, on a scorching 67% shooting. He
also attempted 10.8 free throws, which stem from Kobe’s ability to draw
fouls on inferior defenders.
However, with Brewer on the court, Bryant’s scoring decreased to 24 points,
on just 36% shooting, and he only attempted 2.4 free throws. It’s worth
noting that the field-goal percentage Brewer held Bryant to was more than 10%
below Bryant’s average field goal percentage of 43%, 16.3% below, to be
exact, for the entire 2011-2012 season.
当当~第一位老大!!!(Kobe Bryant)
去年,公牛跟湖人只对决过一次,那场老大上了35分钟,有15分钟都在跟小酒拼命,
另外20分钟是小酒在板凳休息的时候,当小酒在板凳的时候,
老大拿了32.4分,命中67%,10.8次的罚球
然而小酒上场後,老大则是:得分减少到24分,命中36%,2.4次的罚球企图
值得一提的是,小酒让老大的命中率低於平均10%,最多会低於16.3%。
(皆已2011-2012赛季来说)
Also, With Brewer on the bench, Kobe contributed 43% of the Lakers'
turnovers, but when Brewer was on the floor, that number ballooned to 63%,
which isn't surprising, because we all know how much Kobe loves having the
ball in his hands – even if he's going against a pesky defender.
另外老大的失误率也从43%提升到63%,大家都知道老大喜欢持球进攻,就算面对她讨厌的
防守者,他依然会勇往直前的进攻。
A good defender might defend his opponent well but end up losing the battle
by fouling. A great defender doesn’t give his opponent the chance to get to
the free throw line… Brewer was able to pressure Bryant enough to decrease
his scoring production, as well as shooting percentage, but he also avoided
fouling Bryant, and kept him from going to the line. That’s a very big deal
when you consider that free throws would have helped the Lakers much more
than loosely-contested jumpers would.
一个好的防守者,是会让对方也没机会罚球的,小酒就是那个可以让老大减少得分的防守者
Next up, Kevin Martin.
Thanks to a shortened, lockout induced season, the Bulls did not have the
opportunity to play the Rockets last year, but during the 2010-2011, full
length season, these teams met twice, with Kevin Martin playing 70 minutes in
those two games. With Brewer on the bench, in 38 minutes, Martin scored 25.6
points, on 47% shooting, and attempted 9.5 free throws. With Brewer on the
court, those numbers decreased to 5.6 points, on 25% shooting, 43% below his
season average, and just 1.1 free throws attempted.
第二位骗人丁(Kevin Martin)
因为缩水赛季,所以公牛很多少机会可以跟火箭对决,但是在2010-11赛季,他们对上了两
次,骗人丁有打的70分钟中,小酒坐了38分钟的板凳,那时骗人丁砍出
25.6分,47%命中,9.5次罚球
而小酒在场时,骗人丁则是减少到5.6分,25%命中,远低於它的平均43%命中,1.1次罚球。
(...有这麽夸张吗,这样小酒根本是骗人丁克星= =)
One interesting thing is that with Brewer on the floor, Martin resorted to
finding teammates, rather than attempting to generate offense on his own.
With Brewer on the bench, Martin scored 31% of the Rockets’ points, compared
to just 9%, when Brewer was on the floor. At the same time, Martin
contributed 31% of his team’s assists, while Brewer was on the floor,
compared to just 16%, when Brewer was on the bench. Thanks to Brewer’s
defense, Kevin Martin, one of the leagues best pure scorers, was forced to
focus his attention more on distributing the ball, rather than scoring it, as
he was locked up by Brewer.
有一件有趣的事要提,当小酒在场上时,骗人丁倾向於寻求队友帮助,而不是自己进攻,而
当小酒坐板凳时,火箭有31%的进攻都是骗人丁,而在小酒上场却降到9%,
在同时,小酒上场时,骗人丁贡献了31%的团队助攻,而小酒坐板凳时,却只有16%,
真的要感谢小酒的防守,让骗人丁从联盟中最纯的得分手被强迫要多传球。
因为他已经被小酒锁住了。
Next up, Manu Ginobili.
Last year, the San Antonio Spurs and Chicago Bulls didn’t play, but two
years ago, during the 2010-2011 season, the teams matched up twice, and Manu
played 67 minutes, in total. 27 of those minutes were against Ronnie Brewer,
while the other 40 saw Brewer on the bench.
With Brewer resting on the bench, Ginobili scored 26.1 points, while shooting
58% from the floor. With Brewer on the court, Ginobili’s scoring declined to
9.3 points, on just 18% shooting. Furthermore, without Brewer on him,
Ginobili managed to avoid turning the ball over, but when Brewer entered the
game, Ginobili contributed 50% of his team’s turnovers.
下一位鬼秃(Manu Ginobili)
去年马刺跟公牛并没有对上但是两年前,他们对决了两次,鬼秃有上的67分钟,有27
分钟都在跟小酒PK,其他40分钟小酒都在板凳。
当小酒在板凳时,鬼秃能得26.1分,58%命中。
当小酒在场上时,鬼秃得分跌落到9.3分,18%命中
而小酒在场时,鬼秃的失误率也高达50%
Manu is one of the most difficult players to defend because of the way he
incorporates his european flare into the game, in order to keep his defender
on his toes. Despite this, Brewer was able to limit Manu’s shooting
percentage to just 18%, a number that should not go unnoticed. While it’s
impressive to limit any scorer to 18% shooting, it’s even more impressive
limiting one of the trickiest scorers to 18% shooting.
鬼秃是最难防守的球员之一,因为他的欧洲步伐会让他的防守被甩开,尽管如此
小酒还是能让鬼秃的命中只有18%,这是不该被忽视的,当你可以限制任何的得分手只有
18%的命中,会让人印象深刻,但是如果你是让顶级的得分手只有18%命中,这更让人
印象深刻......
Finally, Dwyane Wade.
In 2011, the Chicago Bulls and Miami Heat matched up in a seven game playoff
series that only went five games. Of the five games played, Wade played in
198 of the possible 240 minutes. 36% of those minutes were against Ronnie
Brewer. With Brewer on him, Wade was held to a paltry 15 points, on 38%
shooting, and attempted just 4 free throws.
最後~典伟!!(Dwyane Wade)
在2011年公牛跟热火在季後赛对决了5场,典伟打了198分钟,有36%的时间在跟小酒对决
当小酒跟他对决时,他拿了15分,38%的命中,4次的罚球。
While Wade didn’t have the greatest overall series, the most impressive
thing Brewer displayed was his ability to avoid fouling – something I spoke
about earlier. Dwyane Wade is one of the best scorers in the league, and even
though the NBA just inserted a flopping penalty, the fact of the matter is
that the best scorers are experts at selling fouls and getting to the free
throw line. Wade, for instance, has a career average of 8.9 free throw
attempts per game. While some of those come from aggressive play, the number
is padded by Golden Globe worthy performances.
In the Bulls vs. Heat playoff series, Brewer’s ability to limit Wade’s
trips to the stripe to just 4.0 times a game, should not go unnoticed. This
means he didn’t bite on a majority of Wade’s fakes, nor did he get caught
with his hand in the cookie jar, two things made especially difficult when
going up an offensive powerhouse like Wade.
典伟并没有打出很棒的系列,而让人印象深刻的是,小酒展现出他那避开犯规的高级能力,
典伟是联盟中最棒的得分手之一,而且他很会骗犯规,他生涯上罚球线平均有8.9次,
尽管有些被称为所谓的金身,在公牛跟热火对决中,小酒让典伟只用出4次他那轻盈的步伐
这也是不该被忽视的,这代表着他并没有被典伟骗到,也没有让典伟轻易的得手,这两
件事说明了,当你防守像典伟这样的进攻者有多困难。
So, as I’ve shown you, Ronnie Brewer is a superb defender. He alters the
games of even the best scorers in the league. While he might not have an
offensive game (well, he does, but it’s god awful), his defense more than
makes up for that loss. Brewer will give the Knicks a guy that can pester the
opposition’s shooting guard all night long. I’m looking forward to a long
year of defense from Ronnie Brewer!
所以我想,我应该已经证明了小酒事多棒的防守者吧,他即使对上联盟最好的得分手,
他也能改变比赛,当然他可能没办法出现在进攻中(如果可以,这将会是令人害怕的),
他的防守弥补了这项缺失,小酒可以帮尼克整夜都在纠缠那些得分手,我很期待未来的
小酒防守!!!
以上仅供参考!
希望小酒真的这麽猛XDD
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1F:推 skymay:开季第二战对热火时会仔细看一下他和骚韦 XDD 10/27 14:48
2F:推 Altair:该不会变成下一个Tony Allen... 10/28 00:15
3F:→ greedbo:为什麽会扯到火箭球员,很明显...不靠火箭撑版面 没人在意 10/28 09:43
4F:推 osape:楼上推错文了吧? 10/28 09:52
5F:推 skymay:这几位明明就是很有名SG的强力得分手...哪有只扯火箭球员? 10/28 09:58
6F:→ osape:从门票来看,MSG主场尼火战从$210起跳,平均745元 10/28 09:58
7F:→ osape:尼箭战从$105起跳,平均375元。火火和超赛MSG票价都很贵 10/28 09:59
8F:→ greedbo:我没推错文,提到 10/28 10:06
9F:→ greedbo:两个火箭球员,就是炒话题而已... 10/28 10:07
10F:推 osape:那你走错板了 10/28 10:12
11F:推 HidakaShu:是只有台湾人不在意而已,外电干嘛特地搏版面 10/28 10:17
12F:→ skymay:另外阿西克跟小酒都待过公牛也都是公牛的防守大将,提到有 10/28 10:21
13F:→ skymay:什麽奇怪的@@? 10/28 10:21
14F:推 dj6601:连续好几年价值最高的球队需要火箭球员搏版面?脑子撞到喔? 10/28 14:05
15F:→ dj6601:而且还是那麽低调的小马丁和offseason才出名的阿西克 10/28 14:07
16F:→ BSH99:痾...照理说应该只有KM算火箭..阿西克照这篇来看是要算公牛 10/28 14:31
17F:→ dj6601:小马丁也已经不在火箭了XD 10/28 14:35
18F:推 jayelva:真是震撼 10/28 18:04
19F:→ greedbo:就说住纽约的亚洲人也不少啦...少了林那些人都消失了 10/28 21:41
20F:→ greedbo:少在那天真 自我感觉良好,以为尼克队人气一样旺或更旺 10/28 21:42
21F:→ greedbo:价值最高球员,是因为人口多,你逻辑还好吧,我指的是这球员 10/28 21:44
22F:→ greedbo:不靠林来疯的队友,没人有兴趣看,所以笔者才会扯火箭队 10/28 21:44
23F:推 osape:消失就消失啊,那些人很烦。票都卖光了不然你想怎样? 10/28 21:49
24F:→ osape:火箭票很便宜,$3镁起跳喔 10/28 21:50
25F:→ osape:没有林来疯的去年,尼克运营利润就$7490万元,是全NBA最高了 10/28 21:51
26F:→ osape:注:上面指2010-11年赛季 10/28 21:52
27F:推 chen06:虽然我看不懂上面在说什麽?我只是要说明一件事 10/28 21:57
28F:→ chen06:我知道没有Lin我朋友(住NY的亚洲人)仍买了尼克的票 10/28 21:59
29F:→ chen06:不过他是还没有Lin以前就会买票进去看,没有Lin以後还是买 10/28 22:00
30F:→ skymay:而且热身赛都不是尼克主场,也一堆穿着尼克球衣的球迷在场 10/28 22:01
31F:→ skymay:边看球 XD 10/28 22:01
32F:→ skymay:上一场跟篮网的比赛好像算篮网主场,小胖还被球迷嘘了 10/28 22:02
33F:→ chen06:所以住NY的亚洲人好像并没有因为少了谁就全不进球场了XDD 10/28 22:04
34F:推 skymay:基本上票都卖光了,卖给谁有差吗? XDD 是谁进去看球的其实 10/28 22:07
35F:→ skymay:对球队好像没什麽差吧 XD 亚洲人黑人还是白人 XD 对球队来 10/28 22:07
36F:→ skymay:说买票看球的才是客人 XD 只是尼克票已经被订光,而且还涨 10/28 22:08
37F:→ skymay:价了 XD 10/28 22:08
38F:推 chen06:卖给什麽人确实没差,可是真的有亚洲人买票啊 10/28 22:10
39F:→ chen06:不然我朋友进去看的时候我叫他想办法让镜头照到证明 XDDD 10/28 22:10
40F:推 skymay:嗯嗯 我知道 XD 其实我们也是亚洲人 XD 所以说亚洲人都对 10/28 22:11
41F:→ skymay:尼克没了兴趣还蛮好笑的 XD 如果真如此这个版可以废了XD 10/28 22:11
42F:→ osape:热身赛镜头里就有亚洲人了,NBA是看球技又不是看人种 10/28 22:11
43F:推 sherry821224:一分钟到了,你做了个好梦吗? 10/28 22:13
44F:推 chen06:虽然还是很困惑这篇讨论重点是什麽?只是想说出知道的事实 10/28 22:13
45F:推 skymay:XDDDDDDDD 其实这篇挺有趣的XD 早上有人说这篇爱提火箭球员 10/28 22:15
46F:→ skymay:结果这篇提到的那个火箭球员在中午过後离开了 XD 然後里面 10/28 22:15
47F:→ skymay:提的阿西克其实也就是小酒曾经的队友而已 XD 10/28 22:16
48F:推 dj6601:你才还好吧 我就是亚洲人住过纽约4年多 看过现场的比赛 10/28 22:17
49F:→ dj6601:比你一辈子看尼克队还多 从03黑暗年开始 MSG就是满的 10/28 22:18
50F:→ dj6601:亚洲人多到比你家巷子的人还多 是你眼界太小还是智商太低? 10/28 22:19
51F:→ dj6601:还是你要解读成那些去看现场比赛的亚洲人都是路边捡到票的? 10/28 22:21
52F:→ chen06:正想叫我朋友出来现身说法,就有其他亚洲人挺身而出~推楼上 10/28 22:26
53F:推 osape:推楼上。有看尼克热身赛就知道,除了巫师外,其他几乎都满场 10/28 22:27
54F:→ osape:尼克的票房不是靠XX疯,MSG股票现在也涨到$40(X疯只有33.99) 10/28 22:29
55F:→ osape:推dj大和chen06大。台湾支持火箭队很好很棒,我很高兴能低调 10/28 22:30
56F:推 paullu:有些球迷 真的很夸张哈 10/28 22:35
57F:推 HidakaShu:功课都没做就想酸,跟他认真干嘛(哈欠) 10/28 22:36
58F:→ chen06:我刚回家看到谬论只好说事实,其实还没有看本文#^_^# 10/28 22:39
59F:推 Lenny115:有些人真的很可爱 好像没有LIN世界就崩塌了 10/29 02:19
60F:→ Lenny115:黑暗期的票房都让很多球队望尘莫及 10/29 02:20
61F:→ greedbo:中文还好吧,谁不知道尼克打多烂 票房照样赚...你国文不好 10/29 08:51
62F:→ greedbo:我讲再多 你也是断章取义而已,讲真的 这版人气不到十 10/29 08:52
63F:→ greedbo:就少呛点...想变成人气五吗 噗 10/29 08:52
64F:推 skymay:变人气五又如何 XDDDD 总比人气100但一堆酸酸埋伏着看笑话 10/29 08:55
65F:→ skymay:好吧 XD 10/29 08:55
66F:推 HidakaShu:人气1也没差吧,好过之前100但乌烟瘴气 10/29 09:02
67F:→ BSH99:不会真的有人从PTT看世界吧= = 10/29 09:05
68F:推 Lenny115:从这个遥远的小岛看NBA球队的市场.. 真的太幽默了 10/29 09:11
69F:→ Lenny115:请说明队版的人气能说明在美亚洲人不买票进场的关联性 10/29 09:12
70F:推 g9xuggf:怎麽会有人以为只有台湾人看NBA 自我感觉极度良好Y 10/29 09:14
71F:推 Lenny115:我突然觉得我推文好绕舌XD 相信我 过不久火箭版也会对 10/29 09:15
72F:→ Lenny115:那种"人气"感到惶恐 10/29 09:16
73F:推 g9xuggf:不会啦 那边都是1日迷迷 打不好人都不见了机率比较高!! 10/29 09:24
74F:推 chen06:greedbo:我们人气那麽少的队版你就不用来了~快走不送 10/29 10:02