作者BSH99 (BSH99)
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标题[外电] 瓜 骂 钱 3者相斥问题
时间Tue Oct 23 23:06:38 2012
这种分析文真不好翻QQ 有错请提出
http://ppt.cc/ZM1e
Amar’e Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler and the Knicks’ Spacing
Issue
瓜 骂 钱 尼克的空间分配大问题
Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire are often asked if they can “play
together”, with the implication being that Amar’e hasn’t been the same
since the trade to bring Carmelo to the Knicks. Now Amar’e has certainly
lost a step and some ‘bounce’ since the 2010-2011 season but the biggest
reason for Amar’e's issues, at the offensive end, may be the addition of
Tyson Chandler and the spacing issues he creates.
瓜瓜跟阿骂最常被提出"他们是否能够相容",这句话暗示这阿骂在也不是瓜瓜交易案之前
的阿骂了,现在阿骂被认为已经失去他2010年的第一步跟弹跳力,而在进攻端再度添加了
新的问题,就是老钱跟他与老钱的空间分配问题。
First, it’s important to realize that Stoudemire’s production did not dip
significantly following the trade that brought Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks
and he continued putting up excellent numbers. In the 25 regular season games
following the trade, Stoudemire averaged 23.5 points a game on 49% shooting.
This would seem to show that the addition of Anthony did not significantly
impact Stoudemire’s offensive game.
首先,这点很重要,我们要先认知阿骂的效益减少并不是因为瓜瓜,阿骂在瓜来到後,
仍旧有不错的数据,在那次交易案後的25场例行赛,阿骂平均23.5分,49%命中率,这显示
瓜瓜的到来并没有重大影响到阿骂的进攻。
While 25 games is a very small sample size, insert Jeremy Lin joke, the
statistics from last year show that Carmelo’s presence also did not impact
Amar’e game in a significant way, besides shot attempts. That is, it would
appear that Amare’s struggles weren’t due to Carmelo “crowding” or “
freezing out” Amar’e.
当然,25场是个小样本,就跟林来疯一样,这个数据显示去年的瓜并没有重大影响到阿骂,
不过除了出手数以外就是了,这似乎在说明阿骂现阶段的挣扎并不是因为瓜的关系。
瓜在场跟不在场的阿骂数据:
http://ppt.cc/FERV
I am of the belief that Amare’s struggles in 2010-2011 were in part due to
the addition of Tyson Chandler and the fact that he clogs the paint on
offense. Using the NBA’s advanced stats tool, I’ve discovered that when
Chandler and Amar’e are both on the court, the effect on Amare’s game has
been massive, and not in a good way.
我更加相信阿骂的挣扎是来自於老钱的加入,老钱阻塞了很多进攻区域,用了NBA最先进的
分析工具後,我发现当阿骂跟老钱都在场上时,对阿骂的影响是非常巨大的,而且是不好的
那方面。
老钱对阿骂的影响数据:
http://ppt.cc/Uz_g
What jumps off the page in analyzing these splits is the fact that Stoudemire
’s field goal percentage jumped 12 points with Chandler off the court and in
turn Stoudemire’s points per 36 minutes jumped up seven points while only
taking .7 of a shot more. This increase in efficiency is further explained by
the fact that Stoudemire’s free throw attempts, per 36, increased by nearly
three.
有个惊人的事实是,当老钱不在场上时,阿骂的跳投得分可以多12分,还有阿骂的罚球机会,
也会增加将近3次。
Furthermore the shot location data is very telling. From every region on the
court STAT’s FG% went way up with Chandler on the bench. In the restricted
area, where Stoudemire takes most of his shots, his percentage increased from
62% to 71%. From mid-range he was 12% better. These two areas are crucial to
Stoudemire’s offense.
而阿骂每个区域的命中率都有显着的提升,在油漆区,他的进攻比例从62%提升到71%,中距
离也会好上12%命中率,这两个区块是阿骂最有威胁的得分地带。
Additionally the frequency at which Amar’e shoots in the restricted area
rises from 43% with Chandler on the court to 50% when he is not, and the
percentage if his shots in the paint but not in the restricted area falls
from 18% to 12%. This would lead me to hypothesize that when Chandler is on
the court Amar’e is simply less aggressive attacking the rim, but seeing
that Amar’e still took the same percentage of mid-range shots I’m led to
hypothesize that this is a spacing issue. When Chandler is on the court It
may be that, since he is often around the basket, it proves much more
difficult for Amar’e to get to the rim. Chandler clogs the paint and makes
it much more difficult to attack for Stoudemire.
而阿骂在油漆区的命中率也会从43%提升到50%,如果中距离的进攻比例也会从18%降为12%,
会让我去思考是否老钱在场上时,阿骂会减少进攻禁区的比例,但是事实上阿骂的中距离
比率还是一样,这让我去假设如果这是个空间分配问题,当老钱在场上时,老钱会一直在
篮框附近游走,这可证明这让阿骂更难以去进攻篮框,老钱堵塞了许多阿骂的进攻。
Another issue with the Amare-Tyson pairing is that for all of Tyson’s
defensive prowess he s an incredibly limited, albeit, efficient offensive
player. Chandler gets almost all his points from pick and rolls and offensive
put backs. This frequently leads to Chandler replacing Amar’e as the roll
man in pick and roll situations while Amar’e just floats around the
perimeter. Looking at the stats Amar’e ended possessions as the roll man
only 120 times last year compared to 198 in 2010-2011.
另外一个问题是老钱的高效防守能力,还有他也是个高效的进攻球员,老钱的得分手段
大多来自P&R跟补篮,这将会使老钱取代阿骂成为挡拆的配合对象,这将会让阿骂沦为
在旁边游走的游魂,阿骂上赛季的P&R仅仅只有120次远低於2010年的198次。
It seems apparent that the Tyson-Amare pairing comes with serious spacing
issues, but I couldn’t stop here. I think there are several things the
Knicks could do to improve Amar’e's productivity (aside from wishing his
jumper comes back), although expecting the same STAT from two years ago is a
stretch.
这些数据似乎显示阿骂跟老钱有很严重的空间问题,但是我们不能就这样放弃,我认为这
里有些解决方案,我们仍旧可以期待阿骂从两年的挣扎中破茧而出。
1. Mike Woodson would be smart to add more quick hitting plays that create
space on the floor for Amar’e to attack. I believe we saw an example of this
against the Raptors in the play below.
1.武僧似乎很聪明的加入更多的传导去让阿骂拥有空间去进攻,这是季前赛的一个小例子
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wkgR_HPDLa4
While I’m no Sebastian Pruiti, the Knicks appear to run a 1-5 Pick and Roll
with Melo and Amare both on the left side of the floor. Melo is in the corner
and Amare positioned at the elbow, Ray Felton uses the pick and passes it to
Amar’e who passes it to Melo then slips a screen leading to a dunk. This
play is exactly the way to free up space for Amar’e to attack.
虽然我不是Sebastian Pruiti,不过尼克似乎用瓜跟阿骂展现了一种P&R,瓜跟阿骂同时
出现在左侧,瓜在角落而阿骂在肘区,肥顿跟老钱挡拆然後传给阿骂,阿骂在传给瓜在做
挡拆,然後瓜再回传给阿骂,让阿骂有机会去灌篮,这个PLAY恰好地为阿骂创造了一个
进攻空间。
2. The Knicks would be wise to borrow from Monty Williams, who as Jared Dubin
shows in his new venture at hoopchalk.com employed some nice Pick and
Roll/Pop schemes with his big men, Jason Smith and Chris Kaman (as shown
below). In the first video Jason Smith runs a pick and pop while Kaman cuts
in like a roll man would. In the second video the Hornets run a pick and roll
and pick and pop one after the other. Inventive pick and roll schemes like
the ones below might go a long way to solve the spacing problem and increase
Amare’s productivity.
2.尼克可以借监Monty Williams,Jared Dubin跟他的大个子展现了一些不错的P&R或P&P,
第一个影像是Jason Smith跑P&P给Kaman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6GgE_reA2jc
第二个是黄蜂跑P&R跟P&P给另外一个,善用P&R的配合将是一条解决阿骂效益跟空间问题
的长久之路
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IWhTDoEdqqI
Be sure to click over to
http://hoopchalk.com/2012/10/22/the-new-orleans-hornets-and-the-roll-pop-combo/
where Dubin explains it in far more detail.
这里还有更多关於P&P的讲解
3. The last and perhaps easiest, basketball wise, but most difficult way
politically would be to move Amar’e to the bench where he could run pick and
rolls all day with Prigioni. Since Camby can shoot, unlike Chandler, the
Knicks wouldn’t run into the same spacing problem they have now.
Hey Melo, the next time they ask you if you can play with Amar’e just
respond “it’s Tyson, not me”.
3.也许更简单的方法是把阿骂丢到替补席上,这样他就可以整天跟老普玩P&R,而老坎比
也可以投中距离拉开空间,尼克或许就不会遇到这种空间问题了。
嘿!瓜瓜,下次在被问起这问题时,你可以回答"是老钱害的,不是我喔!"
以上仅供参考!
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补上武僧谈小酒的首战复出
“He's rusty,'' Woodson said.
“His stat line wasn’t bad for a guy who’s been sitting.’’
武僧说:"他有点生锈了,以一个之前一直休息的人来说他的数据还不差"
* The saga of Rasheed Wallace, signed to a non-guaranteed contract, will get
more interesting today. Woodson said Wallace may practice for first time, but
is not ready to scrimmage. Wallace will have missed the entire six-game
preseason.
“We have to get him on the floor getting him up and down before he starts
scrimmaging,’’ Woodson said.
武僧说西蛙就要参加第一次训练了,不过还不能参加混战,"我们要先让他到场上,
之後才能进入混战。"
The mystery regarding J.R. Smith’s Achilles could be solved today as well.
Smith missed the trip with a sore Achilles that forced him into a walking
boot. The Knicks still are calling it a sore ankle, but an Achilles injury
has the potential to become chronic. Smith has played just one preseason game.
另外一个关於JR的秘密是,他的问题今天可能就会解决了,JR之前的伤让他走路要穿
防护套,而尼克仍旧声称那是脚踝痛。
“We have enough talent on the team we can get by until Amar’e gets back,’’
Woodson said. “Thank God it’s exhibition season and not the regular season.
’’
最後武僧说:"我们有足够的天赋可以等待阿骂的归队,感谢上帝现在还只是季前赛,
而不是例行赛。"
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话说老钱最近越来越敢投中距离了,虽然今天只看第一节,但第一节有一幕是老钱站在罚
球线附近,而76人全部人都散开,离他大概有一大步吧...,结果老钱看了看...还是把球
球传掉了。
武僧再多给老钱一点信心吧!!感觉老钱的中距离不是练不出来而是没信心阿!!
毕竟老钱的罚球并不差啊!!
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1F:推 kd1523:insert Jeremy Lin joke 这句话要要怎麽翻啊? 10/23 23:11
2F:推 jayelva:瓜瓜那样回答的话应该会被骂爆XDDDD 10/23 23:12
3F:→ BSH99:那句话就别太在意吧XD 10/23 23:13
4F:推 esther81828:推 不只拳王 NOVAK也开始往禁区里面打了XD 10/23 23:43
5F:→ esther81828:只是一个探步之後还是会逃出来XD 10/23 23:44
6F:推 osape:我相信大家都侹康的话,一定能找到办法。阿骂的身材还是很好 10/23 23:45
7F:→ esther81828:两次挡拆帮阿骂作出进攻PLAY真的很棒 这应该也是阿骂 10/23 23:45
8F:→ esther81828:会习惯的打法吧 10/23 23:45
9F:→ osape:问题在於信心,怕阿骂的信心丧失,要多鼓励阿骂啊!! 10/23 23:46
10F:→ osape:*健康 10/23 23:49
11F:推 pklahahaha:阿骂能接受板凳出发吗? 10/24 01:14
12F:推 dannyisagay:阿骂最让人不能忍受的是他的防守吧... 10/24 07:06
13F:推 skymay:瓜瓜那样回答会被骂爆+1 XDDDDDDDDD 10/24 07:50