作者RNAi (RaiN)
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标题[外电] 尼克暑期的财务报表
时间Tue May 15 07:00:12 2012
这篇真是靠盃长的,但是我想这应该有助於厘清大家对薪资的疑惑跟预测?...或至少对我
有帮助啦...我大部分都只是简译,也希望我没有理解错误...
http://tinyurl.com/btksehv
If you thought dissecting the collective bargaining agreement and a team's
spending cans and cannots were tricky, you're definitely not the only one. In
fact,
as one veteran NBA journalist put it, "It's a minefield. Even GMs call
the league and say, 'Can I do this?'"
Now that the Knicks' season is in the books, what are their options when the
free-agency period starts July 1? ESPN New York's Jared Zwerling consulted
with NBA salary cap expert Larry Coon to get the answers you need and more.
For starters, the Knicks are currently
$5.6 million under the league-mandated
$58.044 million salary cap. (On July 1, if the cap stays the same, which it
likely will, they will be $5.65 million over.) Currently, the main players
under contract for next season include:
Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire,
Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert and Toney Douglas. In addition,
J.R. Smith has
a player option of
$2.443 million,
Josh Harrellson has a team option of
$762,195,
Jerome Jordan has a non-guaranteed salary of
$762,195 and while
Renaldo Balkman cleared waivers this past season, he's still owed some salary
that counts against the cap. The team's restricted free agents are
Jeremy Lin
and
Landry Fields, and the unrestricted pool includes:
Steve Novak, Baron
Davis, Jared Jeffries, Mike Bibby, Bill Walker and Dan Gadzuric.
Looking ahead to the offseason, the key moves for the team include Smith's
opt in or out, potentially re-signing Fields, using their
mid-level exception
of about
$3 million (taxpayer) or of about
$5 million (non-taxpayer),
potentially using their
bi-annual exception of $1.98 million and then
spending a couple of
veteran's minimums of $1.4 million each. Their biggest
hurdle will be deciding which amount of their mid-level exception to give to
Lin.
Here's the full breakdown:
J.R. SMITH
Smith has a player option of $2.443 million for next season, which he can opt
out of. The Knicks will know by July 1 if he's going to do so. If he does,
that means the team will still be above the cap ($3.157 million), and they
won't gain anything. That $2.443 million is not extra money that actually
exists in order for the team to sign someone else.
Even if Smith opts out, the Knicks could re-sign him for a 20 percent raise
based on his $2.382 million salary from this past season. That's enabled by
the Non-Bird Exception, which would put him at $3.097 million for 2012-13. A
source told ESPN New York that Smith's father, Earl, is going to make a
strong case for his son to stay in New York, but "it's very clear that the
money is the biggest factor with him."
In fact, when Smith chose the Knicks over the Clippers in mid-February after
coming back from China, a source said the Knicks' higher offer ($2.443
million to the Clippers' $1.4 million veteran's minimum) was the deciding
factor because he was financially broke. Therefore, Smith will likely opt out
and ask for the 20 percent raise. At that point, the ball will be in the
Knicks' court to re-sign Smith, who's already said publicly that he wants to
return next season.
简述: 即使JR离开,尼克也顶多少$2.4M,而且也还是会高於cap $3.1M,尤其那
多出来的2.4M也不见得额外多签谁。如果尼克要签回他,基於NB exception,可以加薪
20%。JR的爸爸希望他留在纽约,但是据悉当初JR会加入尼克就是因为钱的因素,所以如果
JR真的会回来尼克,可能的做法就是跳出再跳进。
JEREMY LIN
During the lockout negotiations, the league wanted additional spending
restrictions to be placed on all tax-paying teams. But the players' union
managed to wrest one concession in the final labor settlement: those
restrictions wouldn't be triggered once a team is above the tax line. As a
result, the owners gave teams a little extra breathing room. They defined a
point $4 million above the tax line, which they call the "apron," where those
restrictions kicked in. With an anticipated $70 million tax level, the apron
will come in around $74 million this summer.
One of the restrictions placed on teams above the apron was the smaller
mid-level exception of about $3 million, while teams under the apron could
have the larger mid-level exception of about $5 million. Since a team above
the apron can't offer more than $3 million in a mid-level contract, the
converse is also true: a team that offers more than $3 million in a mid-level
contract can't subsequently exceed the apron.
The consequences are potentially devastating for teams with payrolls below
the apron. If a team spends more than $3 million of its mid-level exception,
then the apron becomes a hard cap for the remainder of the season. If you're
a General Manager trying to assemble a winning roster, "hard cap" is an ugly,
ugly phrase.
Keeping that in mind, the Knicks are in a unique situation regarding their
mid-level exception -- and it's all because of Lin, a restricted free agent.
While the Knicks can sign him to the non-taxpayer mid-level exception of
about $3 million or below, anything above that would create a hard cap. Lin
is likely going to demand his maximum of about $5 million for two main
reasons: 1.) While he may not have that much basketball value right now,
teams will be drawn to bringing Linsanity to their city; and 2.) Because
other teams are going to know that the Knicks will be hard-capped if Lin
re-signs for $3 million or more, they'll press them to match at about $5
million.
If the Knicks do, they'll still be able to re-sign him because he's a
restricted free agent. In fact, because he has that status, the Knicks and
Lin could agree to an offer sheet even before other teams bid for his
services. And the Knicks can match any number because of the Gilbert Arenas
provision, which prevents other teams from offering too much.
Currently, the Knicks are below the apron, so they'll be hoping and praying
that Lin signs an offer sheet for $3 million or less. If the Knicks keep Lin
at that amount (and they don’t use their bi-annual exception), they won't be
capped at $74 million, and they can later go above the apron. Therefore, they
could make trades that take on lots of additional salary, but they will still
have to pay tax if their team salary is above the tax line (no transactions
exempt a team from potentially paying tax).
While Lin's agent, Roger Montgomery, will have a fiduciary responsibility to
his client to get him the best deal possible, he'll know the eventual suitor
will be the Knicks. Therefore, Montgomery could ask Lin to do the Knicks a
favor and take $2 million less and sign for about $3 million, in order to
give the team salary-cap flexibility. By staying in New York, Lin would be
make up the difference off the court by being a hot name in the No. 1 media
market. What Montgomery will have to watch out for is the Knicks saying,
"Sign with us for $3 million and we'll promise to take care of you later."
It's that promise to take care of you later that gets teams into trouble.
Now, keep this in mind: While the Knicks need to use their mid-level
exception to re-sign Lin, they don't have to use it on Lin. They can spend it
on anyone. For example, they could let him walk in order to sign unrestricted
free agent Steve Nash, who's reportedly going to demand $3 to $5 million per
year, or Goran Dragic, who will likely be in the same ballpark.
But, again, anything more than $3 million will set a hard cap on the Knicks.
If that happens, they won't have any flexibility to make any offseason or
in-season moves (signs, trades, replacing an injured player, etc.) that
leaves them above the $74 million threshold. For example, let’s say they
have a team salary of $68 million after signing Lin, or about $6 million
below the hard cap. They could make a trade (provided all other trade rules
are satisfied) that adds up to $6 million to their payroll. But they couldn’
t make a trade that adds $7 million.
Whatever the case, all signs point to Lin being a Knick. As one source
familiar with his situation put it, "He's going to be in New York next year
regardless, unless they decide they're not going to match him because Nash is
going to come in at $5 million or something like that. But Nash is a pipe
dream. I think that they keep Lin, just because of his popularity."
As for the length of Lin's contract, the Knicks have the option of making it
four years. (It could actually be three years with a player option on the
fourth.) Teams tend to lock up players who are fairly cheap, but are still a
big part of their future and have the potential to progress quickly in only
half of that four-year window.
简述: 今夏预测的tax level应该是70M,lockout时劳资协议的结果是,如果此队已经高於
此限,最後一线生机将是大约4M的"apron"空间。而mid-level exception钱的多寡将决定
於这队是否已经花超过apron,也就是74M。如果是,MLE就只剩3M,若否,那就可以有5M。
换言之,队伍要先决定他们的MLE,才能期待有apron的空间。所以如果任何人签超过3M的
MLE,尼克都会under hard-capped。林的经纪人可能可以说服林留下,并以广告收入弥补,
MSG可能会跟经纪人谈好条件,类似於"跟我签3M,我会照顾好之後的一切",但类似於这样
的承诺常常让球队陷入麻烦 (这到底是啥意思?) 另外,其他队伍也知道尼克的财务状况,
所以他们也会想办法推尼克入火坑,就是强迫尼克match林的deal。所以到头来,如果尼克
先跟林交涉过了,而林也愿意以3M加盟,那对尼克就是再好不过的情形了。而以球队的角
度,尼克可能会跟林签四年,趁他还便宜时,然後第四年是player's option。
LANDRY FIELDS
If the Knicks re-sign Lin to the full mid-level exception of about $5
million, that means they'll be hard-capped and only have about $9 million
left to spend, which begs the question: Do they want to spend $5 million of
that remaining amount on Fields? Even if another team matches the Knicks'
offer sheet, they have Early Bird Rights on him, which sets the $5 million
ceiling. (In comparison, Lin has Non-Bird Rights rights, which is why the
Knicks need to use the mid-level exception to keep him.)
However, if Lin and Fields re-sign for $3 and $5 million, respectively, the
Knicks won't be constrained by the hard cap (based on the lower mid-level
exception). They can re-sign Fields, secure veteran free agents and make
trades to bring in someone who's more expensive. In other words, they can go
above the apron.
But, again, it all comes back to that $5 million for Fields, and some
insiders just don't see the value there. One source familiar with Fields'
situation said, "I doubt Landry's worth $5 million, but you never know. When
teams try to sign restricted free agents, they sometimes have to over-pay
just in order to make the other team let him go. So I could see Landry
getting a bigger deal because of that -- not so much because he's worth that
much right now as a basketball player, but because he can walk."
As for the length of Fields' contract, it could be the same as Lin's. Also
like Lin, because Fields is a restricted free agent, he and the Knicks could
agree to an offer sheet even before other teams bid for his services. In
addition, the Knicks can match any salary number because of the Gilbert
Arenas provision.
By the way, if you're wondering if the $5 million maximum for Fields can be
used for anyone else (like Nash), it can't because of the Early Bird Rights
provision. So, again, only the mid-level exception can be used for Lin, Nash
or Dragic -- the three most popular picks at starting point guard heading
into the summer.
简述: 如果尼克花5M的MLE在林,尼克就只剩下9M,尼克会想花5M在LF身上吗? 跟林一样的
是LF也是限制球员,所以尼克可以先跟他谈好条件,这样也避免跟其他队竞争。尼克如果用
5M签他,考量的可能是之後可以用来当交易的筹码,其他队最高就用5M竞价,瞄准的是尼克
会放手,当然也是要某支队伍愿意出这价码。简而言之,尼克可以match但是LF的薪水还是
会算在薪资空间中。
IMAN SHUMPERT
If Shumpert was going to be out until June 30 of next year (based on a
doctor's certification), the Knicks could apply for a disabled player
exception, which would mean they could sign someone to replace the rookie at
his salary. But Shumpert will likely be back on the court in December or
January. Keep in mind, however, that if the Knicks were hard-capped (based on
the apron), they couldn't use that kind of exception.
简述: 如果Shump在明年六月底後才能回来,尼克就可以用disabled player exception
签跟Shump同价码的人来代替他。但目前看来Shump会在12月或1月回来,而且这个exception
如果尼克已经hard-capped了,就不能用了。
BI-ANNUAL EXCEPTION
The Knicks have a bi-annual exception of $1.98 million, which could be used
for Novak, who's an unrestricted free agent. (However, he'll likely demand
more because he emerged as the league's best 3-point shooter.) Even if the
team re-signs Lin to $3 million or higher, and the $74 million apron becomes
a hard cap for them, they'd still have the bi-annual exception. But then they
definitely can't go above the apron. Keep in mind that if they spend their
bi-annual exception first, they would be capped at the apron -- just like
they would if they spent $3 million or more with their mid-level exception.
简述: BA exception跟MLE是同样的运作状况,只要用了全额,队伍就不能超过apron,
全额MLE跟BAE可以一起使用,但是重点就是不能超过apron。目前最有可能的对象就是
Novak了。
PREDICTED NUMBERS
Currently, the Knicks are about $6 million above the salary cap, which means
they're about $9 million under the apron. If Smith opts out and the Knicks
don't re-sign him, they'll be about $11.5 million under the apron. If they
re-sign Lin for about $5 million, they'll be about $7.5 million under the
apron, which would then create the hard cap.
Then, if Fields re-signs for about $5 million as well, the team will only
have about $3 million under the apron to spend on three players. Think about
that. About $3 million, three players. Veteran minimum's deals could suck
that right up.
That mid-level exception is more critical than you ever thought. From the
season to the offseason, Lin still remains right at the top of the Knicks'
discussion. If you're a fan of the team, you should be rooting for him to
sign for $3 million or less.
简述: 目前尼克超过cap 6M,意谓着他们离apron只剩 9M。如果JR离开,那就剩11.5M。
如果林拿5M,最後他们就剩7.5M。如果LF也拿5M,那就剩不到3M,随便一个老鸟就会把他
吃光。结论: 如果你是尼克粉,那就期待林愿意拿3M吧。
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心得: 所以林的状况看起来就是要不要罢了。JR的情况比较像是如果有明显胜出的deal,
他就会离开 (我不晓得他之前几近破产?),LF的状况应该是要看尼克怎麽评量他的价值,
比较多的人看到的是他从Melo来之後就一蹶不振,而尼克会签他照这样看来要嘛就是价格
OK,要嘛就是要拿他当筹码,但是以球员的角度,为求自己的保障,说不定换个球队会比
较好?
(希望我没有翻错...)
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1F:推 osape:LIN板有一篇新的专业薪资合约文,不过只讲LIN的部分 05/15 07:07
2F:→ osape:这篇我刚也概略看完了,我觉得作者有点奇怪,似乎想要LIN拿 05/15 07:08
3F:→ osape:3M,LF拿5M的感觉?他没有建议LF拿5M,却一直要LIN拿3M... 05/15 07:08
4F:→ osape: 他没有建议LF拿3M 05/15 07:09
5F:推 zzxzero:AMAR2200万实在太高了 他一个人可以签3个不错球员了 05/15 07:11
6F:→ osape:大概因为之前投票LF票数颇高,他还特地写了一篇文分析.. 05/15 07:11
7F:→ osape:看来赛季结束後还有很多尼克人生要演... 05/15 07:15
8F:推 skymay:所以这是尼克粉写的吗?XDDDD 要给其他喊着要给LIN 5M的球 05/15 08:09
9F:→ skymay:迷记者看的?! XDD 但只能说我爱的是这些球员XDDD 05/15 08:11
10F:→ RNAi:喔不 这是来自ESPN~ 05/15 08:19
11F:推 skymay:喔喔 谢谢原PO 刚点进去看到了作者名字,是我有FOLLOW的一 05/15 08:23
12F:→ MOJS:两个人都拿5M是很正常的推论,Lin的是中产,Fields是早鸟权 05/15 08:24
13F:→ skymay:个记者耶XDD 他确实都报导尼克比较多XDD 05/15 08:24
14F:→ wurenben:"理论上"不可能先谈好约不给其它队报价就签约.. 05/15 08:26
15F:→ wurenben:这样还叫做"非受限自由球员"吗?尤其Lin各队都在看 05/15 08:27
16F:→ wurenben:尼克不要乱搞而因小失大..到时候被连拔5年选秀权 05/15 08:27
17F:→ wurenben:抱歉上面是"受限自由球员" 05/15 08:28
18F:→ MOJS:受限制自由球员就是,别队如果开给该球员一份薪水 05/15 08:30
19F:→ MOJS:母球队有权利选择跟进该报价 05/15 08:30
20F:→ MOJS:有兴趣的话你们应该去NBAGM板看一下 05/15 08:31
21F:→ wurenben:别队一定会在7月1日开市时就开价的,不可能让尼克轻松签 05/15 08:31
22F:推 lest83:`不跟进的话 如果球员还是想选尼克也是可以吧 05/15 08:39
23F:→ lest83:如果可以的话 那这篇应该就是私下先谈好条件 然後尼克不跟 05/15 08:39
24F:→ lest83:让LIN跟FIELDS最後还是选尼克 看起来是这样子0.0 05/15 08:39
25F:→ wurenben:这样事情就大条了,会被球员工会告,联盟也会调查.. 05/15 08:44
26F:→ wurenben:之前Joe Smith的密约事件,一次被拔五年选秀权 05/15 08:44
27F:推 lest83:话说下面的留言颇有趣的 都在问说为甚麽这麽坚持要给FIELDS 05/15 08:51
28F:→ lest83:500万XDD 05/15 08:51
29F:推 MOJS:给Fields 500万不是什麽奇怪的事,不论他在五灯体系下值不值 05/15 08:53
30F:→ MOJS:得,反正钱是老板在付的..不太认为给他300或500有影响到薪资 05/15 08:53
31F:→ MOJS:空间 05/15 08:53
32F:→ RNAi:但球员应该可以选择钱少的尼克吧...吗? 我是说如果就是不想离 05/15 08:54
33F:推 skymay:所以早鸟权的薪资可以不占薪资空间的意思吗? 05/15 08:54
34F:→ RNAi:开之类的 05/15 08:54
35F:推 lest83:不是奇怪不奇怪问题 而是美国乡民认为他根本不值那个价0.0 05/15 08:54
36F:推 agsdf:当初看到觉得最後一段怪怪的 JR走 剩11.5M 林拿5M 剩7.5M? 05/15 08:55
37F:→ lest83:照另外一篇说工会在抗议要给LIN早鸟权的说法来看 05/15 08:55
38F:→ RNAi:这就是我不懂的地方,由文章看起来,就是LF那段,如果有早鸟 05/15 08:55
39F:→ lest83:似乎如果有早鸟就可以不管未来先弄下LIN跟FIELDS然後有中产 05/15 08:56
40F:→ RNAi:全然後就可以不管薪资空间,那管要给LF多少 05/15 08:56
41F:→ agsdf:有早鸟权 应该是跟其他队offer的差额不占薪资吧 05/15 08:56
42F:推 MOJS:可以去NBAGM板看 Coon's FAQ Q34.. 05/15 08:56
43F:→ lest83:对阿早鸟之前不是说今年可以不计入 还是只是可以无条件跟进 05/15 08:57
44F:→ wurenben:薪资一定会占,只是看会不会计到hard cap底下 05/15 08:57
45F:→ MOJS:早鸟占薪资空间但不受薪资空间限制.. 05/15 08:57
46F:推 shinobilin:不能LF和Lin各拿4m吗?? 05/15 08:57
47F:→ MOJS:我有说了阿,不管LF值不值得这个价钱,付钱的是老板 05/15 08:58
48F:→ lest83:其实这些最後决定都是在LIN跟FIELDS手上 尼克可能最後顶多 05/15 08:58
49F:→ lest83:喊个价 然後可能不跟进吧 05/15 08:59
50F:→ lest83:但他拿多一点不是会影响到尼克後续的签人动作0.0 05/15 08:59
51F:→ RNAi:所以说多付了LF,其他人就得少拿,是这样吧? 05/15 08:59
52F:→ lest83:所以美国乡民才会说给他那麽多干嘛 05/15 08:59
53F:推 MOJS:为何LF拿多一点会影响其他人? 05/15 08:59
54F:→ lest83:薪资空间有限阿 不是多说会占空间了0.0 05/15 09:00
55F:→ RNAi:但是这样看来只要是过了apron,MLE就只剩3M,所以也是签不到 05/15 09:00
56F:→ RNAi:什麽重要的球员吧 05/15 09:00
57F:→ MOJS:可是我们的薪资空间已经用完了阿0.0.. 05/15 09:01
58F:→ lest83:顶多补一个绿叶吧0.0 05/15 09:01
59F:→ shinobilin:瓜.骂:我们好像有点贵 05/15 09:01
60F:→ lest83:那为啥那些记者还要谈11.5M 9M之类的0.0 05/15 09:01
61F:→ MOJS:你给他3M或是5M我们的薪资空间一样是超过的 05/15 09:01
62F:推 skymay:所以是无论如何中产都只能变3M 的意思吗?! 05/15 09:02
63F:→ RNAi:我又重看一次...XD 所以58M是cap 70M是tax-level 是这样吧? 05/15 09:03
64F:→ RNAi:那所以什麽是tax-level...Orz 05/15 09:04
65F:推 lest83:豪华税? 05/15 09:04
66F:→ wurenben:豪华税门槛 05/15 09:04
67F:→ lest83:所以就看度蓝要不要缴豪华税0.0? 05/15 09:05
68F:→ RNAi:SOGA~~ 天啊 我突然豁然开朗了XD 感谢各位!!!XD 05/15 09:06
69F:→ RNAi:我们是一定得缴豪华税了 不管有没有要再签人 05/15 09:07
70F:→ RNAi:因为第一段就说我们今年就会超过cap至少5M 05/15 09:08
71F:推 MOJS:中产是5M 05/15 09:08
72F:推 lest83:反正度蓝每年都靠尼克就多赚6.7千万了= = 度蓝有其他正业吗 05/15 09:08
73F:→ wurenben:赚那麽大了,缴点税平衡一下也好..之前尼克年薪还破亿过 05/15 09:08
74F:→ MOJS:豪华税在明年不是什麽影响,我们薪资不高 05/15 09:09
75F:→ MOJS:而且对老板也不是什麽影响 05/15 09:09
76F:推 skymay:可是超过豪华税中产还能是5M吗? 05/15 09:09
77F:→ wurenben:好笑的事破亿,但又打不进季後赛 05/15 09:09
78F:→ lest83:可恶尼克太像金鸡母了 这样度蓝根本不会放手Q^Q 05/15 09:09
79F:→ skymay:之前不是有说超过豪华税中产会变3M ?? 05/15 09:09
80F:→ MOJS:RNAi你说的,是超过70M才要缴豪华税,估计明年薪资也差不多 05/15 09:10
81F:→ MOJS:在70M左右 05/15 09:10
82F:→ lest83:好像是纽约球迷蛮捧场 战积在差都还可以坐满= = 05/15 09:10
83F:→ RNAi:超过apron中产才变成3M 以下就是5M 05/15 09:10
84F:推 ab32110:新版的豪华税好像会累进耶 看他愿不愿意缴罗 05/15 09:10
85F:→ MOJS:对,超过豪华税中产会变3M,不过尼克现在离门槛还远 05/15 09:10
86F:→ RNAi:喔喔! 感谢M大! 那所以cap的意义到底是啥啊? 05/15 09:12
87F:→ lest83:今年就这麽头痛了0..0 那明年那三只又更贵了... 05/15 09:12
88F:推 MOJS:cap叫做薪资空间阿,在cap以下你可以用薪资还剩的空间去 05/15 09:12
89F:→ MOJS:自由市场签人补强球队,如果超过cap就无法用薪资空间补强 05/15 09:13
90F:推 skymay:那豪华税的门槛是多少呢?? 05/15 09:13
91F:→ MOJS:那超过cap的球队如何补强呢? 有例外条款,如中产就是 05/15 09:13
92F:→ lest83:无法 然後人又不够怎办 05/15 09:13
93F:→ MOJS:70M吧上面有人说的 05/15 09:14
94F:→ RNAi:那cap是58M吗? 这样好像很少... 05/15 09:15
95F:→ MOJS:差不多58~60M 每年不一样 05/15 09:15
96F:→ MOJS:我说的是今年和明年 05/15 09:16
97F:推 skymay:喔喔谢谢M大^^ 05/15 09:16
98F:→ wurenben:其实暑假至少会有5-6队低於50m,有一队开四年6m给Lin的话 05/15 09:16
99F:→ wurenben:尼克就会很头大,不过这也是尼克(老板)自找的 05/15 09:17
100F:→ MOJS:楼上说的那个有特别例子,不过目前没看过有人用 05/15 09:18
101F:→ MOJS:如果非特别例子,书豪是受限制自由球员,尼克有优先留下他的 05/15 09:18
102F:→ MOJS:权力,别队只能开中产的起薪给他,我们可以用中产跟进留下林 05/15 09:19
103F:推 lest83:毕竟对方也是有点赌运气0..0 这样被他抢走也只好认了 05/15 09:19
104F:→ wurenben:5+5+6+8 平均起来就6m..但尼克跟他+LF的话薪水就会到顶 05/15 09:20
105F:推 lest83:那都是後几年的事了 反正度蓝常常只看眼前不管之後的-3- 05/15 09:21
106F:推 skymay:是说LF的薪资感觉尼克也还是会看市场价的感觉 XD 05/15 09:22
107F:推 MOJS:缴钱是老板的问题阿,而很庆幸的是我们老板赚不少 05/15 09:23
108F:推 lest83:不过篮网如果明年真弄出小胖+DH12 不知道会不会威胁到度蓝 05/15 09:24
109F:→ RNAi:所以明年尼克如果就瞄准那74M,减去已知的~59M,那也还剩15M 05/15 09:24
110F:推 MOJS:超过CAP後不是你想花钱就可以花的,所以你这样算怪怪的 05/15 09:25
111F:→ RNAi:即使用了一堆条款(林5M、Novak算2M)也还有8M啊 只是就不能签 05/15 09:26
112F:→ RNAi:没有鸟权的人就是了... 05/15 09:27
113F:推 skymay:那倒是赚那麽多,不该小气XD 希望他也能给LF 5M XDD 05/15 09:27
114F:推 lest83:就不能在多做补强吧 要求其他人拿底薪投靠 05/15 09:27
115F:推 MOJS:而且超过豪华税也不是什麽多严重的事情 05/15 09:27
116F:→ lest83:应该说对尼克来说不是啥严重的事XDD 05/15 09:28
117F:→ wurenben:薪资上是还好,主要是自由球员要不要来.. 05/15 09:30
118F:→ wurenben:如果明年尼克50胜以上,打进第二轮以上比较会有老将投靠 05/15 09:31
119F:推 MOJS:功能性球员或许比较考验教练的功力 05/15 09:31
120F:推 lest83:现在尼克能给的只有一个大苹果的梦跟遥远的总冠军... 05/15 09:31
121F:→ MOJS:或者说天时地利人和吧,Lin和Novak也是到尼克才打出来 05/15 09:32
122F:→ lest83:看起来就是只能骗BB续留当替补了= = 05/15 09:32
123F:→ wurenben:後几年选秀权没几个,要好好选人啊 05/15 09:32
124F:→ lest83:今年的选秀也要重新观察了 前几年会选的都不在了0.0 05/15 09:33
125F:推 crastal:这篇的说法很奇怪,LF下半季和季後赛的表现不太可能有其他 05/15 10:32
126F:→ crastal:队伍会开5M的合约,NYK也许不用1M就能签下他 05/15 10:35
127F:推 skymay:这篇想表达的意思应该是LF不管领多少会影响尼克的应该只有 05/15 10:40
128F:→ skymay:LIN的中产的意思吧?!XD 05/15 10:40
129F:推 skymay:也就是老板要给LF 5M 也不是问题,应该是这样吧?!XD 05/15 10:43
130F:推 Chloein:楼上完全正解XD 05/15 11:26
131F:推 ab32110:XDDDD 不过LF不到1M也太令人感伤了吧 05/15 11:31
132F:推 peterwu4:基本这篇应该算是拉基文,没什麽必要follow,主要就在讲 05/15 13:32
133F:→ peterwu4:尼克如果用了全额中产或是双年条款,它们的薪资帽就会被 05/15 13:33
134F:→ peterwu4:定死(74m),季中如果出了什麽有价值的球员他们就没办法去 05/15 13:34
135F:→ peterwu4:追了 一个已经有三巨头的球队,还想要能保有一个有弹性的 05/15 13:35
136F:→ peterwu4:薪资帽,真的太…太痴心妄想了啦~ 05/15 13:36
137F:→ peterwu4:就是他们说如果你是尼克迷的话,应该"道德劝说"林签一份 05/15 13:38
138F:→ peterwu4:起薪小於3m的合约 为什麽不去道德劝说其他的大头降点薪水 05/15 13:40
139F:推 KID543:严格来讲是2.5巨头 ╮(╯◇╰)╭ 05/15 13:40
140F:→ peterwu4:,即使薪资帽是硬的也能再多签些有用的人= = 05/15 13:41
141F:→ yun0215:因为能不能降薪水是个谜XD 道德劝说杜兰放走一只巨头 05/15 13:46
142F:→ yun0215:还比较有机会补有用的人XD 05/15 13:47
143F:推 ainosei:如果这样 哪一只巨头最应该被放走呢? 05/15 13:53
144F:→ yun0215:大家都心知肚明想放掉&能放掉是有一段现实差距的= = 05/15 13:56
145F:推 bluebabe:现实不都是这样子的,最有价值的都是最想留的...呼 05/15 14:01
146F:推 Chloein:我觉得这篇文章讲得还满浅显易懂的啊,针对现状解释一下, 05/15 14:02
147F:→ Chloein:有助於了解,没必要说到拉基文吧... 05/15 14:03
148F:推 MAGICMCGRADY:科科...灭火器杀手应该最需要被放走 05/15 14:06
149F:→ MAGICMCGRADY:看有没有办法让他退休吧 05/15 14:06
150F:推 wglbsw:高薪的约太大 但为什麽是底薪承担後果? ="= 05/15 14:12
151F:推 soffi:推楼上~ XD 05/15 15:26
152F:推 fireunicorn:老鹰和灰熊各有1个pf好物~想要被交易说~=3= 05/15 15:38
153F:→ fireunicorn:灰熊那个季後赛最後一场打太差~趁机打劫阿~@@ 05/15 15:39
154F:→ fireunicorn:他好像15~13而已还可以加一个人耶~@@ 05/15 15:40
155F:推 nancyh:推 wglbsw大说的,老是想要压抑底薪族想了就气>"< 05/15 15:42
156F:推 javabird:74M限制了500万中产之外,大家要想想,尼克5800万中只包含 05/15 16:18
157F:→ javabird:了瓜,骂,钱,香,道5位球员,加上林,诺,JR好了,只有8位,但薪 05/15 16:19
158F:→ javabird:水可能只剩400万不到了,这样一队12~15人可能只能集菜鸟来 05/15 16:19
159F:→ javabird:凑队了,若要集老将,就集不满一队.好像规订是一定要至少有 05/15 16:20
160F:→ javabird:12人(不确定),否则也是会被罚的. 05/15 16:21
161F:→ yun0215:老将底薪继续签...可是这样一定还是会超过阿= = 05/15 16:29
162F:→ yun0215:所以应该是压了LIN的薪资也没用...因为一定会超过= = 05/15 16:30
163F:→ javabird:No,压林到300万就可以不管apron了. 05/15 16:33
164F:推 lest83:那种事给度兰烦恼就好了 05/15 16:34
165F:→ ab32110:所以才说三巨头一定会拆啊.....最後一年的薪水太可怕了= = 05/15 19:21
166F:→ lest83:要拆可能也要等在更下一季... 除非度蓝急了0.0 05/15 22:18
167F:推 drcula:也不一定会拆,反正凹到最後付豪华税,最後一年,一次爆到底 05/16 00:34