作者alur (GGOOA)
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标题Re: [闲聊] 选秀杂感
时间Wed Jun 27 02:13:21 2018
一篇SBNATION的文章,
讲述一位球迷对於选後几日的心情,
虽然有些论点不见得成立,
但也指出了几个可能选Bagley的重点。
第一次翻译,翻得不好请多指教。
https://goo.gl/MjX9XQ
Marvin Bagley III: The Pick I Didn’t Know I Wanted -- Richard Ivanowski
Draft day for NBA lottery teams can often feel like Christmas in June. So
after hearing Marvin Bagley III’s name announced on Thursday, and witnessing
the reaction from the fan base, I can’t help but let the same image come to
my mind over and over. I see us as children that had been waiting all year,
could barely sleep the night before, rushed down the stairs the morning of,
tore open our gift, and found it wasn’t exactly what we had hoped for.
在NBA选秀日就像六月里的圣诞夜一样。当在礼拜四晚上听到MB3的名字出线之後,我脑中
不断浮现着这样的画面:我们就像一群小孩子,已经等待了整整一年,在前一天晚上兴奋
到几乎睡不着,但圣诞节那天早上迫不期待地打开礼物後,发现那好像不是我们想要的。
It’s a harsh metaphor, and one that comes at the risk of infantilizing
Sacramento Kings fans everywhere, but it feels right to me. All sports fans
are little kids at heart, and emotional ones at that. We can’t help but
react in ways that defy logic and reason. Have you ever kicked and screamed
while watching a game? Yelled and cursed and thrown things like a toddler
having a tantrum? Yeah, me too.
用一个不堪的比喻来形容,选秀这件事让国王迷们都变成了小孩子,但对我来说的确感觉
如此。所有的运动粉丝们心中应该都住着个小孩,而有时情绪也像小孩一样。有时候我们
就是不能理性地来思考,你曾有在看一场比赛时又叫又跳或是大发脾气吗?是的,我也是
So here we are, with a brand new toy. It’s top of the line, but many of us
had hoped for a different brand. The mixture of simultaneous excitement and
disappointment is not like anything I’ve felt in years. And as much as we
may want to, we can’t run away from home. This is our family. The Kings are
in our blood.
现在我们有了一个新礼物。他属於最顶级的那一种,但我们之中许多人希望拿到的是另一
个牌子的礼物。这种失望,却又隐隐带着兴奋的感觉,是我在前几年内未曾感受到的。尽
管我们想要的可能是别人家的东西,但我们不可能离开。这里还是我们的家,我们血液中
还是流着只队伍的灵魂。
Thankfully as adults we have the ability to reassess and change our
perspective, if we see fit. Now that I’ve had a couple days to breathe, I
think I’m ready to embrace the gift we did get. After revisiting many of my
pre-draft thoughts I’ve decided to take a shot at explaining why I believe
Bagley could end up being what I really wanted all along, even if I couldn’t
see it before
理性点回来看这次选秀,或许对未来会有不一样的想法。现在我们有几天可以喘息,我想
我已经准备好去拥抱我们拿到的礼物。在改变了许多我在选秀前的想法後,我决定说明一
下为什麽我相信Bagley最终应该是我们所要得,尽管我之前不是这麽想。
Roster Composition 球队的组成
In my mind, the biggest advantage that Bagley had over Doncic was something I
picked out early and never wavered from. That is a complete lack of
redundancy on this roster. It goes without saying that the Kings have
starter-level talent in place at the guard positions. Small forward is where
it gets murky
我认为Bagley相对於Doncic最大的优势在於,他对於我们目前轮替来说完全不是多余的。
不用说我们目前在於在控卫有着先发等级的天赋,而小前锋上面则是一团糟。
Some might say that we have no option there, but I disagree. Justin Jackson
was drafted to play the position just one year ago, right at the fringe of
the lottery. While he did not have a great rookie year, he does have
potential to improve and can at least assume some of those minutes in the
upcoming year.
有些可能会认为我们在SF这方面没有选择,但我不同意。Justin Jackson在乐透区边缘一
年前被选来打这个位子,虽然他在新人这一年的表现不算太出色,但我们看到他还有潜力
在下一季里进步。
Not to mention that our biggest rookie standout, and possibly best player on
the team, was categorized as a small forward by Basketball Reference last
year. The site estimated that Bogdan Bogdanovic played 59% of his minutes at
the 3. Additionally, we got solid bench play from Garrett Temple who was
estimated as a small forward 46% of the time
我们新人里表现最为出色的,也可能是我们队中最佳球员,BB8,在过去一年内被
Basketball Reference归类为小前锋,且估计他上场时间中有59%是打这个位置。而且在
这个位置上我们还有一个不错的板凳球员,Temple在这个位置上也打了46%的时间。
So is small forward a position of need for the Kings? In some ways, yes. Is
the need there higher than at power forward? Absolutely not
所以我们在SF上面真的很缺吗?或许是,但这个缺比起PF缺来说算很大吗?我不这样认为
。
Here is a comprehensive list of Kings who played at least one-third of their
minutes at power forward: Zach Randolph, Skal Labissiere, JaKarr Sampson,
Nigel Hayes, and Bruno Caboclo. One of those players is turning 37 next
month, another has trade rumors swirling around him, and the remaining three
combined for merely 549 minutes on the court last season. None of those three
are widely expected to be on the opening day roster
队员中在PF打超过三分之一时间以上的有Randolph,蜡笔,Sampson,Hayes,Caboclo。
Randolph在37个月後可能不在了,而蜡笔始终被交易传言缠身,而剩下三个过去一季加起
来只打了549分钟,这三个人看起来都不像是会留在开幕战轮替中的球员。
On a team that will be heavy with expiring contracts next season, it’s
important to understand who has the multi-year deals. Looking down the line,
the players currently under contract for 2019-20 now have the following
positional classifications: Two point guards, one shooting guard, two small
forwards, and one big man who has yet to step on the court in Harry Giles.
More on him in a minute
更重要的是了解我们下一季有许多到期约。到19-20球季时,目前我们有约的有两个PG,
一个SG,两个SF,而禁区的大个子只有一个人有约,那个人是还未上场比赛过的Giles。
Locker Room Favor 队友们的偏好
The other notable advantage that I found pre-draft in Bagley’s favor was how
quickly the current core of players seemed to gel with him, and how willing
he was to visit with Sacramento.
另一个Bagley重要的优势,是我发现在选秀前他已经跟我们目前的核心队员们相处融洽,
而且希望他来沙加缅度。
He was the only top-five prospect to come to town and workout for the Kings.
There was a late look at Wendell Carter Jr., but other than that it was
mostly second round projections that were willing to make their case in
person.
他是唯一一个在可能前五顺位中有来我王测试的,当然後来Wendell Carter有来,但
Bagley还是可能第二顺位人选中唯一一个有意愿来测是的。
Bagley started popping up everywhere in the Kings social media landscape.
Giles featured him in an Instagram story and mentioned their meeting in a
tweet as early as June 10th. And this was not run-of-the-mill,
nice-to-meet-you, just-doing-my-job type of stuff. They were just kicking it
downtown. None of it seemed forced. They were excited.
Bagley开始在国王社群媒体中一再出现。Giles在一则IG故事里面提到他,且在推特里面
提到他们在六月十号的聚会。这个不是仅仅是say hello问候这样,他们的确是玩在一起
,他们很对聚会很兴奋,这不是强迫的。
De’Aaron Fox also met up with them. And while his social media references
toward Bagley were a bit more cryptic, it seems clear that MB3 was who he was
lobbying for as well. The three just recently had a killer photo-op that has
been featured on every Kings outlet known to man.
Fox也有跟他们一起聚会。虽然在Fox的社群媒体里面关於Bagley的部份比较不明显,但还
是可以清楚的发现他是在游说Bagley加入。这三人的合体照差不多在每个熟知国王队的人
中流传着。
And who could blame Fox for wanting him? Fox’s best role is as lead ball
handler, and the Kings have a fantastic secondary one in Bogdanovic to boot.
And while Bogi may speak Luka’s native language, the same can’t be said for
the rest of the roster.
你怎麽能怪Fox希望Bagley的到来?Fox扮演的角色是队上控球的第一选择,而同时我们还
有一个很棒的控球第二选择BB8。而你知道BB8跟Doncic说同一种母语,是队上其他人不会
的。
Even Bogi would be justified to have mixed feelings toward Luka. Would you
want a younger, bigger version of yourself to walk into your office tomorrow
with the potential to do everything you do, if not more? Well he doesn’t
appear too upset that Doncic wasn’t picked. He’s currently cruising around
Belgrade with Buddy Hield, recording freestyle rap cyphers on Instagram.
即使是BB8也对於Doncic可能有种复杂的感觉。想像有一个跟你很像,但比你年轻,比你
强壮的同事新加入你的办公室,而他可能会做所有你会做的事情,还可以比你做的更多。
我想他可能不会对於Doncic没有想上而感到不开心,BB8目前跟Buddy正在塞尔维亚首都白
城上面游船,忙着发IG跟唱着他们的饶舌歌。
Again it comes down to practicality. Luka never publicly showed any interest
in being a King. It’s even possible that behind closed doors he was
agitating to land in a big market. His final destination of Dallas at least
suggests that possibility. In contrast, what was Bagley’s response on June
11th when asked by the press for his feelings toward Sacramento?
“I love it.”
特别是Doncic从未公开表示他对国王有任何兴趣。他可能私下还是比较喜欢大市场城市
,这点我们可以从他最後落点达拉斯可以猜测出来。相对的,6月11日,在Bagley被问及
对沙加缅度的感觉时,他是怎麽回应的?
“我爱这个城市”
Coming to Grips with the Choice
I understand the argument for Doncic. In fact, I argued the argument for
Doncic. But I also did my best to see the other side as well.
我了解那些想选择Doncic的原因,事实上我也曾为Doncic所争辩。但我也同时尽力地看向
另外一面。
Best player available – that’s the only thing that should matter in many
people’s minds. And while Luka may have the advantage there, it’s just not
the only thing that’s important to me.
选择你能选的最好球员 – 这是大多数人的想法。当然Doncic在这方面有所优势,但在此
这对我来说并不是唯一一个需要关注的事情。
Players have gained more control over their environments than ever. The
biggest stars in the league basically get whatever they want now. Just look
at what happened with Jimmy Butler and Paul George last year, or what is
happening with Kawhi right now. The Spurs have been one of the best
franchises in sporting history, and even they look like they’re about to be
bent or broken by the whims of a single player.
球员们现在决定整个局面的能力比起过往要大的很多。联盟里的明星球员基本上想要什麽
就可以得到什麽。看看过去这些年在Jimmy Butler,Paul George发生的事情,以及目前
正在上演的可爱人生。马刺团队曾经是NBA职业运动史上的一个传奇 ,但现在你可以看到
他们怎样被一个球员耍得团团转。
The truth for the Kings is that they are even more susceptible to being
crushed by one set of wandering eyes than the average organization. And
upsetting the majority of their current core could be downright devastating.
In that way Bagley was a safe pick. And in a city that can’t easily replace
their talent, he was a smart pick.
事实上,国王在选前几乎是要被球迷的期盼给淹没,而几乎要把他们目前的真正核心给毁
灭掉。这样说来的确Bagley是个安全的选择。而就他有着无与伦比的天赋来看,这选择同
时也是个聪明的选择。
Simply targeting the best player, regardless of fit or position, is a fine
strategy for an average to above-average team in an average to above-average
sized market. But ignoring other factors means ignoring part of what defines
the Sacramento Kings, for better or worse.
选最好的球员而不管他的位置,对於一般或一般以上的大城市球队是很好的选择。但考虑
到国王的目前成绩以及市场,这可能就见仁见智了。
In a vacuum, I still believe Doncic is more likely to become a superstar. But
more than a superstar, I want long-term, cohesive, team basketball. The
surest way to get future draft picks and free agents to be excited about
playing in Sacramento is to build on the excitement our current team has for
one another.
我仍然相信Doncic有较高的机会在将来成为超级球星。但在追求超级球星之外,我更期盼
一个长期,紧密合作的篮球团队。要确认走在这样的道路上,我们需要人是喜欢这个城市
,且对於跟这些队友们打球感到兴奋的人。
Most draft boards had Luka Doncic and Marvin Bagley close together, though it
is true that a few did not. If you felt they were miles apart then I don’t
expect the points I’ve offered here to change your mind. But to me, it was
close. So I choose to look at it like this:
大部分选秀专家认为选择Doncic跟Bagley很接近,我认为虽然还是有些差距,但这是事实
。如果你还是认为选择两者天差地远,我也不期望上述所说可以改变你的心意。但对我来
说,我认为两者还是很接近,所以我选择这样看待这个结果:
We had the choice between two potential stars. One seemed more likely to hit
their personal ceiling and the other seemed more likely to let our team hit
its collective ceiling.
Disagree if you want. Call me a sheep or a shill. Claim that it’s wishful
thinking or revisionist history. But don’t pretend that you aren’t going to
watch every bit of Bagley’s rookie season. And don’t pretend that you hope
I'm wrong.
While it may not be exactly what we wanted, Bagley is still one hell of a
gift. And it’s still time to celebrate.
我们要在两名将来可能的全明星中做挑选。一位看起来较高机会可以到达他的上限,而令
一位则是可以让我们全队一起到达我们的天花板。
你可以否定这样的说法,说我是在乱讲。但不要假装你打算对於Bagley的新人球季不闻不
问,且不要假装你希望我是错的。
虽然这可能不是我们真的想要的,Bagley真的是选秀会上一个超棒的礼物。现在要庆祝还
来得及。
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1F:推 Gunsroses: 推 06/27 05:26
2F:推 birdorange: 我王铁粉的特点就是:...每年选秀 制服组都打大家耳光 06/27 07:28
3F:→ birdorange: 我们都会找一堆理由说服自己 这个耳光是多麽的美好... 06/27 07:29
4F:推 lovevivia: 大推 06/27 09:18
5F:推 lovevivia: 选了就支持球团,纵使未来打脸又怎样 06/27 09:20
6F:推 foward: 大家都很M 06/27 09:23
7F:推 domego: 搞不好MB III是我王的KP 06/27 10:48
8F:推 starxls: 说真的 Bagley没那麽差好吗 选他也很ok的 06/27 10:51
9F:推 Kulan: 哼 一群抖M 06/27 11:48
10F:推 awcoke: 我怎觉得bagley像是Marion+阿骂/2。对现在我王体系有信心 06/27 11:48
11F:→ hank13241: Bagley跟Doncic二选一没差那麽多吧 06/27 12:04
12F:推 airer: 不管选谁还是支持,不离不弃是我国王 06/27 12:11
13F:推 supermeme: 国王记者James Ham证实国王对Parker跟黑松有兴趣 06/27 13:08
14F:→ supermeme: 终於稍微有一点好消息 06/27 13:08
15F:推 GodEyes: 推 06/27 13:36
16F:推 foward: parker要开多少才抢得过来? 06/27 13:49
17F:推 hank13241: 最大能开多少就出多少 06/27 13:58
19F:→ Terra791205: Young super team >”< 06/27 14:33
20F:→ mtmmy: Divac: We are super team. Just young. 真的很干话 06/27 14:42
21F:→ bigg: 撇开伤病史不谈 我一直觉得Parker打4号才能展现优势 06/27 14:52
22F:推 foward: 那黑松开多少合适? 有没有大大来分析一下我王剩余薪资空 06/27 15:01
23F:→ foward: 间? 06/27 15:01
24F:→ GodEyes: 推文的图好像wcs从後面捅八个梨的菊花又被剥蛋袭胸 06/27 15:06
25F:→ GodEyes: 然後Fox看到怕.jpg、Buddy跟教练告状 06/27 15:08
26F:推 GGGHILL: 黑松你王只要开个 6M 以上魔术就无力跟了 06/27 15:22
27F:推 awcoke: Parker确实打四号可以在速度吃掉对手,打三号可能跟不上 06/27 16:30
28F:推 wingtoya: 黑松不是防守很破? 06/27 16:39
29F:推 wingtoya: 乾脆我王抢KD好了,让他证明带菜鸡也可夺冠XD 06/27 16:41
31F:→ supermeme: 连结有薪资空间跟预测我们会开的合约 06/27 16:42
32F:推 awcoke: Parker是我王阵中目前缺乏的攻击终结者角色,关键时刻也是 06/27 16:44
33F:→ awcoke: 能单打的球员,我王目前缺这种咖。黑松比较是退而求其次 06/27 16:44
34F:→ awcoke: 的选择。可惜KCP跟AB不能守到三号,不然KCP这种3D也蛮适合 06/27 16:44
35F:→ awcoke: 的 06/27 16:44
36F:推 GGGHILL: 我知道他是UFA 我的意思是魔术无法开超过他今年薪水的合 06/27 17:33
37F:→ GGGHILL: 约,所以随便开个 6m/y 魔术就掰了,除非黑松自己愿意留 06/27 17:33
38F:推 foward: 魔术薪资空间这麽惨喔? 06/27 17:54
39F:推 supermeme: 魔术有签什麽大咖球星吗@@?? 不过如果Parker要打到四 06/27 18:08
40F:→ supermeme: 号我们那个位置还有MB3要练这样还适合吗 06/27 18:08
41F:→ bigg: 魔术不想要黑松重点是 06/27 18:09
42F:推 KillLakers: K.Anderson就够用了吧 总是要给MB3练终结技~~~~~ 06/27 18:17
43F:推 starxls: K.Anderson那速度完全不行啊 而且马刺也不会放 06/27 19:16
44F:推 panda8888: KA就是靠这种缓慢的速度在联盟生存的XD大家都抓不到他 06/27 19:21
45F:→ panda8888: 的节奏 06/27 19:21
46F:推 lovevivia: 魔术卡在Gordon. 不然有1500万的空间 06/27 19:22
47F:推 lovevivia: 如果可以年薪千万以下拿下黑松,这应该就很棒了,明後 06/27 19:27
48F:→ lovevivia: 年续约新秀约,完全不卡 06/27 19:27
49F:推 domego: 请问谁是黑松… 06/27 20:10
50F:推 starxls: Mario Hezonja 06/27 20:11
51F:推 domego: 谢谢S大 06/27 20:14
52F:推 samsam80821: 湖迷以客观角度说下自己想法 觉得你们家目前最好的就 06/27 21:30
53F:→ samsam80821: 是BB8跟FOX 其他对我来说都没到一定要未了他迁就选秀 06/27 21:31
54F:→ samsam80821: 的位置 所以在有了PG+SG或SF的状况下选Bagley我觉得 06/27 21:32
55F:→ samsam80821: ok 禁区看起来人多 但老实说如果不是自己家球迷 06/27 21:32
56F:→ samsam80821: 个人都不是很看好 WCS大概可以长到合格先发左右 06/27 21:32
57F:→ samsam80821: 其他看起来都还在抽福袋 06/27 21:33
58F:推 ilovekobe824: 没抢到Parker觉得AG也不错阿 06/28 00:18
59F:→ Gunsroses: 神眼大你是在讲什麽 XDDDDDDDD 06/28 05:24
60F:推 awcoke: 看巫师交易波兰大锤後,应该是要签下内线的节奏,但他们薪 06/28 08:05
61F:→ awcoke: 资结构会爆掉的状况下,是否有办法吃到porter合约? 06/28 08:05
63F:→ DeAaronFox: 梅婶 狐狸 JJ Giles MB3,是在预告夏联名单了吗? 06/28 08:49
64F:→ DeAaronFox: Giles这个福袋,买了一年终於要开箱了吗? 06/28 08:51
65F:推 auron4041: 一种想要PS4 结果打开来是XBOX One的fu 06/28 14:33
66F:→ auron4041: 你知道Xbox one是好东西 但是就是没办法玩人中之龙 06/28 14:34
67F:推 justid113: 也许先不要期待是PS4比较不会失望,也许会还会有惊喜这 06/28 15:06
68F:→ justid113: 样 06/28 15:06
69F:→ justid113: 不期不待不受伤害XDDD 06/28 15:07
70F:→ bigg: 会跟我们抢Parker大概就是老鹰跟公牛 其中公牛有地缘关系 06/28 15:18
71F:→ bigg: 会危险一点 但Parker来国王应该有无限开火权 06/28 15:19
72F:→ bigg: 黑松没意外应该是想抢就抢的到 但他看起来有点憨不觉得吗 06/28 15:21
73F:推 DeAaronFox: 大家觉得雷霆的J.Grant怎麽样? 雷霆应该没钱留人 06/28 15:27
74F:推 auron4041: 黑松基本上都是SG喔 然後他基本上被嫌得半死了 06/28 15:32
75F:推 domego: 猜了老半天,可爱突然横空降临沙城? 06/28 15:32
76F:→ GodEyes: 都选八个梨分蜡笔Giles的时间了如果还来帕克分八个梨的 06/28 15:42
77F:→ GodEyes: 时间就太搞笑了 06/28 15:43
78F:推 starxls: 黑松之前好像有个性上的疑虑 不一定适合国王目前的文化 06/28 16:07
79F:→ hihi29: 国王目前的文化是甚麽? 06/28 16:18
80F:推 stuppid4413: 就是国王的文化 懂? XD 06/28 16:21
81F:推 DeAaronFox: 国王文化就是 Young Core = NCAA All-Star + 帅哥BB8 06/28 16:37
82F:→ Gunsroses: 替补PG 看能不能签Mack或Tedosic 06/28 16:50
83F:推 kuchibu: 黑松现在不是都打34号吗??其实就射手,视野算能传一下球 06/28 18:54
84F:→ kuchibu: 篮下进攻稍微增加了点 06/28 18:55
85F:推 Terra791205: 如果能签到Tedosic也太爽了吧,而且跟BB8麻吉? 06/28 23:46
86F:→ GodEyes: 首先得先要解决名单满了的问题 06/29 00:10
87F:推 justin1943: 看总版国王在追lavine? 06/29 01:48
88F:推 hihi29: 灰狼的Lavine? 那老迪真的觉得国王不缺SF了 06/29 02:26
89F:推 GroveStreet: 公牛不太会去抢Parker,因为公牛今夏的首要目标是好 06/29 06:09
90F:→ GroveStreet: 好谈LaVine跟Nwaba的续约,保持薪资弹性等明年再进军 06/29 06:09
91F:→ GroveStreet: FA市场,基本上可以把公牛排除於假想敌名单之外 06/29 06:09
92F:推 pun442: Lavine合理 以目前要求跑动跟体能的健队方向 06/29 06:44
93F:→ pun442: Lavine可能性很高的 fox Lavine JJ 巴力 wcs 06/29 06:45
94F:→ pun442: 能跑能跳能攻击篮框 你说屌不 06/29 06:45
95F:→ mtmmy: Lavine健康度 怕 06/29 06:48
96F:推 pun442: 投射 fox bb8 巴弟 06/29 06:48
97F:→ pun442: 看来真的要让bb8上小前了 06/29 06:49
98F:→ mtmmy: 而且记得LaVine的防守好像满惨的 06/29 06:49
99F:推 pun442: 估计会有交易了 06/29 06:51
100F:→ pun442: 巴上一季就知道2哥不怕用小阵容 06/29 06:52
101F:→ pun442: 很难想像下一季能有多快 06/29 06:52
102F:推 starcry: 如果是LV 这阵容防守太美了XD 做慈善来的 06/29 08:14
103F:推 strayfate: 我们後场有四菜+庙+香波 已经很挤了吧 追Lavine要干嘛 06/29 08:22
104F:→ strayfate: … 06/29 08:22
105F:推 foward: 哪一篇阿@@? 没看到! 06/29 08:41
106F:推 Grammy: 卖票 06/29 09:16
107F:→ bigg: LaVine复出後的投篮选择很糟啊 06/29 09:29
108F:推 wingtoya: 在2哥体制下应该可以改善 06/29 09:32
109F:→ wingtoya: 春大有分析过,2哥让大家的投篮空间很舒服 06/29 09:33
110F:推 justid113: 总版提到国王追LaVine的 是溜马追A.Gordon的那篇,底下 06/29 10:04
111F:→ justid113: 的推文 06/29 10:04
112F:推 foward: 找到了 谢谢J大 06/29 11:48
113F:推 sulala000: 不懂你王有需要追我牛LaVine吗?Parker应该比较符合你 06/29 13:49
114F:→ sulala000: 们的需求吧?跨区讨论,烦请解惑? 06/29 13:49
115F:→ bigg: 坦白讲都不符合 但LaVine这谣言成分大一点 听听就好 06/29 14:20
116F:→ bigg: 国王这种自由市场的二级玩家只有在像今年这样的小年可以发 06/29 14:30
117F:→ bigg: 挥影响力 算的够精今年真的想拿谁拿谁 06/29 14:33
118F:推 squall9510: 好奇问一下parker为什麽不能打我王3号? 如果是速度的 06/29 15:02
119F:→ squall9510: 话我觉得好像还行 06/29 15:02
120F:推 jyvaskyla: 感觉Parker身材 三号打太久膝盖容易爆 黑松算是有浅力 06/29 15:15
121F:→ jyvaskyla: 可养 但我王一字排开要养的还真不少 还能再养黑松吗 06/29 15:16
122F:推 awcoke: 希望跟巫师换侧翼。 06/29 16:11
123F:→ bigg: Parker打三号就靠辗 但他那膝盖能辗多久不好说 06/29 16:36
124F:→ bigg: 黑松主要是在魔术定位问题 去年Gordon伤退的时候他能缴出不 06/29 16:37
125F:→ bigg: 错的数据 12M/2yrs能签下陪练其实划得来 06/29 16:40
126F:推 DeAaronFox: RFA国王应该超难抢,但签黑松就要冒着养不出来的风险 06/29 17:09
127F:推 ilovekobe824: Parker给二哥用会超猛 06/29 17:20
128F:→ billy759552: 黑松印象最深就是快攻多打少 跨下传球给对手 06/29 17:27
129F:推 wingtoya: 黑松出手几乎都是三分 06/29 17:44
130F:推 shyu7671: 巫师应该会拿Otto出来换表弟,没换到WCS有机会 06/29 17:46
131F:推 foward: 我们不会出WCS吧? 06/29 17:59
132F:推 shyu7671: 假设打到一半发现新双塔太猛,什麽都可能 06/29 18:18
133F:→ pennykidd: 出WCS当主菜能换到Otto的话最好不过 Otto防守范围全面 06/29 22:28
134F:推 awcoke: 鹈鹕的薪资空间都快爆表了,mirotic明年也要签约,鹈鹕应 06/29 23:12
135F:→ awcoke: 该不可能表弟直接换porter,来吃下24m的薪资吧。 06/29 23:12