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※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1IDvfyE3 ] 作者: idiotsmart (一根毛儿) 看板: NBA 标题: [外絮] 上篮高手 时间: Tue Sep 17 07:55:35 2013 The layup masters 上篮高手 Is being good at the layup as simple as getting to the rim? There’s rarely a distinction made between a player’s ability to get in layup range versus his ability to actually sink it. Perhaps that’s because “a layup” is also a metaphor for something easy, like a “gimme” putt in golf. 熟练上篮和打进篮下一样简单吗?分别球员能打进篮框旁的能力和真正 能把球放进篮框的能力是少见的。可能是因为「上篮」是简单的代名词 ,就像是高尔夫的「gimme(译按:休闲高尔夫球赛时,球离洞口不远就 直接算进洞,不用再推了的球)」。 Whoever popularized the metaphor probably never tried to score over NBA giants, I’d hazard. 我大胆假设宣传这个说法的人可能没有尝试在NBA的巨人们前上篮得分。 The layup also gets no respect because it doesn’t demand respect. Unlike the dunk, the layup fails to seize an arena’s attention with a sudden lightning bolt at the hoop. Instead, it takes an indirect route off the backboard before meandering along the rim, waffling on whether to finally be a basket already. 上篮也不受到尊重,因为它不需要被尊重。不像雷霆万钧的灌篮般,上篮 无法抓住球场的注意力。反而是用个经过篮板的曲折路径,在成为计分板 上的分数前还在篮框上逗留。 Incredible dunks look super intentional, as though a player’s life depended on forcing the ball through the rim at that moment. Incredible layups look accidental, as though a fouled Dwyane Wade thought “Why not?” while flinging the ball in the backboard’s general direction. 惊人的灌篮看起来是绝对蓄意的,如同球员在那一刻把生命都用在把球灌 进去般。而惊人的上篮看起来是充满意外的,就像Dwyane Wade被犯规後往 篮板一抛时还想着「何不就唬烂一下?」。 So the layup commutes between “you’re open and should always make it” and “you weren’t looking at the rim, that was total luck.” It’s hard to get recognition for being good at something when both the routine and the spectacular are so easily dismissed. 所以上篮介於「你有空档应该投进」和「你压根都没看篮框,唬烂进的」。 当基本功夫和精彩表现两者都轻易的被忽略时,是很难认定一个人是否真正 擅长於上篮。 Well, no one is dismissing the mighty layup in these parts. The shortest bank shot is indeed a skill -- and an important one. Here are some players who, according to Basketball-Reference.com, have mastered the ancient art, along with some guys who could stand to do better. 这个嘛~没人会在这边忽略伟大的上篮。最短距离的擦板得分绝对是个重要 的技巧。这边是根据BBR整理出几位熟练这个古老艺术的球员,同时也列出几 位应该要增进此项技巧之球员。 THE BEST 优质组 LeBron James Made 70 percent of layups, attempted 357 在357次上篮出手中命中70%。 When LeBron stole Game 1 from Indiana with an off-hand layup, there was far less marveling at his steely reserve than there was criticism of Frank Vogel for letting it happen. 当Lebron用非惯用手上篮将G1胜利从溜马队手中偷走时,对於他钢铁般转身 的惊叹声远少於对让这件事发生的Frank Vogel(译按:溜马总教练)的批 评声。 An open layup is a high percentage shot for anyone, but it says something that LeBron is comfortable with his off hand in a high- pressure moment like that. His ambidexterity is the foundation of his short-range arsenal. 对任何人来说空档上篮是个高命中率的出手,但这透露出Lebron在关键时刻 能舒服的用非惯用手出手。灵活的双手是他近距离进攻武器的基础。 Not only is LeBron better at getting to the rim than everyone else but he might be more accurate once there than everyone else, as well. Last season, LeBron shot 70 percent on layups. He attempted at least 200 layups more than anyone with a better layup conversion rate. LeBron不单单比任何人都会切入篮下,同时比任何人都更能在篮下将球准确 放进。上季,LeBron上篮命中率是70%。他比别人至少多200次上篮出手同时 有更佳的进球率。 The aforementioned ambidexterity allows LeBron to explore any angle at any time. A favorite tactic of his is to shield the defender with his back while banking a no-look lefty. It’s a bit like a reverse lay-in that doesn’t finish on the other side of the hoop. 上述的灵活双手让LeBron在任何时间任何角度都能出手。一个他喜爱的战术 便是利用他的背档开防守者,然後来个不看篮框的左手擦板。这就有点像是 个同边的反手上篮。 Isaiah Thomas Made 67 percent of layups, attempted 151 在151次上篮出手中命中67%。 Pound-for-pound (Copyright: Allen Iverson) the best layupper around. At a tiny 5-9 in socks, Thomas shouldn’t be able to hit 67.1 percent on these shots. He has had a lifetime of practice against taller players, though. 换算成一样等级(专利:Allen Iverson)来比较最佳的上篮好手。非裸脚 量仅五尺九寸的Thomas照理不该有67.1%的上篮命中。他肯定花了一辈子时 间来练习如何面对高个。 Thomas hasn’t mastered any one thing in particular. He just has the full layup repertoire. He’ll switch hands when it suits him. He’ll loft it high off the glass like Steve Nash. He’ll shield off contact with his back while scooping the ball forward. He has the up-and-under down. Thomas并没有精通其他特别的技巧,他单纯拥有全套上篮技能。他在应该的 时候会换手上篮、他可以像Steve Nash一样高擦板上篮、他能用背来阻挡火 锅并同时向前抛球、他也会假投真切。 Seriously, watch this guy at the rim. Better yet, record this guy at the rim, pause right before the layup happens and appreciate how impossible the feat looks. Water can’t find a way through cracks the way a Thomas layup can. 认真的说,来看这家伙上篮,甚至能录下来更好,并在上篮发生前暂停,好 好欣赏他的十八般武艺。Thomas的上篮比起流水穿石还来的刁钻。 Tony Parker Made 67 percent of layups, attempted 331 在331次上篮出手中命中67%。 This is the defining Parker trait and always has been. There’s also a striking quirk to his game. Although Parker can use his left hand if the situation requires, he prefers to use his right, even on the left side of the backboard. I’d say the signature Tony layup is a right-handed scoop on the left side of the rim. That is, if the signature Tony layup isn’t an overhand try in which he’s leaning backward on an invisible recliner. 上篮一直是Parker决定性的特质。同时在比赛中他也有个怪癖。虽然在需 要的时候Parker能用左手上篮,但他更喜欢用右手,即使他在篮板左侧也 是如此。我会说Tony的招牌上篮是篮框左侧的右手抛投,但更精确说,他 的招牌上篮是靠着隐形人的过肩上篮。 Marcus Thornton Made 70 percent of layups, attempted 156 在156次上篮出手中命中70%。 Look, I’d be lying if I said I could fully explain Thornton’s layup skill, but he’s been great two years running (69.3 percent on layups last season). He isn’t especially fluid with his moves, but he’s good with either hand. Thornton also doesn’t force anything around the rim. Most of his lay-ins come off assists. 若说我能完全解释Thornton的上篮技巧那我就是在骗人,但他两年来上篮 都很棒(上季的上篮有69.3%命中率)。他的动作并不特别流畅,但双手都 很灵巧。同时Thornton在篮下时并不会强求,多数的上篮进球都来自於别人 助攻。 THE WORST 劣质组 Brandon Jennings Made 50 percent of layups, attempted 281 在281次上篮出手中命中50%。 Kevin Costner’s “back, and to the left” line creeps into my head whenever Jennings drives. Detroit’s new starting point guard has a tendency to lean backward off balance while flinging lefty prayers. Hopefully Jennings learned something from former teammate Beno Udrih, who shoots contested layups quite well. 当Jennings切入时,Kevin Costner的名句「向後,然後往左靠」(译按: 电影谁杀了甘乃迪的名句)不断的在我脑中浮现。底特律活塞队的新先发 控卫用左手乱抛时有向後不平衡倾斜的习惯。希望Jennings向前队友Beno Udrih学些东西,因为Beno的非空档上篮颇优秀。 Carmelo Anthony Made 50 percent of layups, attempted 335 在335次上篮出手中命中50%。 He’s even worse at contested layups when you consider how often he’s rebounding his misses for easy putbacks. But those putbacks might answer the question of why Anthony is so mediocre near the basket. Melo loves chasing his own shot, and the first try might be a careless prelude to the chase. He’s also not especially adept at using his left hand and thus forces a lot of action with his right. 当你考虑到他多常投丢一些轻松的补篮又自投自抢,就知道他对於非空档上 篮的把握度更差。而这些补篮就是Anthony在篮框附近能力多麽普通的答案。 Melo喜欢冲抢自己投出去的球,而第一投可能就是为了冲抢随意出手。他也 不是很习惯使用他的左手,所以常常用右手勉强出手。 Dion Waiters Made 50 percent of layups, attempted 245 在245次上篮出手中命中50%。 He’s the right-handed Jennings, although there’s more hope for Waiters going forward, I’d say. He’s stronger than Jennings (eventually my “Strongta Ellis” nickname will get off the ground, I just know it), taller than Jennings and younger than Jennings. I’m banking (OK, I’ll stop) on an improved Waiters near the rim. 他是右手版Jennings,虽然我认为他更有希望进步。他比Jennings来的强壮 (我刚得知我称呼他「Strongta Ellis」这个绰号将会正式启用(译按:此绰 号改编於Monta Ellis这个名字,表示是更强壮的Ellis))、比他来的高也比 他更年轻。所以我赌Waiters上篮技巧将会进步。 Ramon Sessions Made 49 percent of layups, attempted 290 在290次上篮出手中命中46%。 Sessions was among the worst perimeter player on layups last season, but he hasn’t been this bad in the past. Last season could be a fluke -- or the result of a once-quick point guard slowing down. I’ve noticed he tends to go right when the path is blocked off. 上季Sessions是外线球员中上篮表现最差的球员之一,但他以前并没有这麽 糟。所以上一季可能只是个意外,或是一个速度型控卫慢下来的结果。我发 现即使路线被挡住了,他还是习惯右边切入。 Omer Asik Made 48 percent of layups, attempted 145 在145次上篮出手中命中48%。 I stayed away from listing big men because so many of their “layups” are really post moves or strained putbacks, but Asik deserves a mention. He converted 94.6 percent of his dunks, nearly 47 better than he managed on layups. From 3-10 feet, he shot 27.4 percent. 我尽量把大个子从这份名单排除掉,因为他们多数的「上篮」其实是低位单 打和被影响的补篮,不过Asik值得一提。他灌篮成功率高达94.6%,优於他的 上篮能力多达47%。在三到十尺的投篮中,他只有27.4%命中率。 Few players better demonstrate the difference between grip and other kinds of fine motor skills. Asik is good at dunking; he has no issue putting his clamps on the rock and tomahawking it through the hoop. Once his hands try a more delicate layup, though, the ball flies off the window as if Asik’s playing handball. 很少有球员能像Asik一样充分显示了抓紧球灌篮和其他技巧的是有很大不同 的。Asik是个灌篮高手;对於将球牢牢抓紧砸向篮框他一点问题也没有。 当他手要作出较为精细的上篮动作时,球就往篮板奶油掉,像是他在打手球 一样。 Ricky Rubio Made 45 percent of layups, attempted 164 在164次上篮出手中命中45%。 I don’t want to judge too harshly, as Rubio was coming back from an ACL tear. This is his second season of poor finishing, though (48.4 percent on layups in his rookie year). It’s curious that Rubio struggles like this because he’s so well coordinated and so well aware of angles when it comes to passing. Perhaps the problem is his running balance. On drives, Rubio often staggers as if he’s in an invisible potato sack race. 因为Rubio才从前十字韧带撕裂伤後复出,我并不想对他太严苛。不过这也是 他第二季上篮表现不佳了(新人球季上篮命中率48.4%)。Rubio上篮攻力这 麽差着实令人匪解,毕竟他无论面对各种角度的传球都是如此精湛。或许问 题在於他跑步时的平衡。在切入时,Rubio常常步履蹒跚像在跑麻袋跑步比赛 (译按:下半身套着马铃薯袋的跑步竞赛)。 IN THE MIDDLE 中庸组 Russell Westbrook Made 58 percent of layups, attempted 478 在478次上篮出手中命中58%。 Westbrook might be the player whose facility at making layups simply means he gets to the rim a bunch. That’s not entirely fair, though, because Westbrook can and does finish with either hand. Westbrook是个熟练的上篮者,简单来说是他切进篮下次数实在太多。不过这 样说并不完全公平,毕竟他的确双手都可以上篮。 You just wouldn’t expect the dynamic point guard to be a whole 12 percent worse on layups than LeBron, given Westbrook’s elite speed and hops. It appears, from the video clips, as if Westbrook flies into the lane with more desire than strategy, willing the ball toward what might be the hoop. That’s nitpicking because, even if Westbrook is only OK at converting layup attempts, it matters more that he is creating so many of them. 由於Westbrook拥有顶尖的速度和跳跃力,你很难去想像这个爆发力十足的控 卫居然低於LeBron的上篮命中率多达12%。从影片来看,Westbrook像是脑充血 般冲进去篮下,将球送向可能是篮框的地方。但这只是吹毛求疵而已,就算他 的上篮命中率普普,他能创造一堆上篮机会更为重要。 原文网址- http://tinyurl.com/mddt75v -- 新手NBA外电翻译+数据分析部落格 http://mola79321.pixnet.net/blog 欢迎来讨论!!! --



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1F:推 lp2348 :70%......出手还邀瘦多次 太神啦~~~ 09/17 07:57
2F:推 restingbeast:LBJ应该是拉不下来吧 若以上篮手感的话我觉得TE很强 09/17 08:10
3F:推 ej3xl3284 :去年的LBJ真是怪物中的怪物 各项命中率都超神@@ 09/17 08:14
4F:→ ej3xl3284 :二楼说的也是 防守LBJ第一线被过的话不是得分就是 09/17 08:15
5F:→ ej3xl3284 :犯规了 或许这也可以解释他那鬼神般的命中率 09/17 08:16
6F:推 mingchaio :LBJ快攻都是灌篮收尾,所以这个上蓝命中真的挺恶心的 09/17 08:17
7F:推 ej3xl3284 :看看今年有没有机会突破75% XD 09/17 08:19
8F:→ Yhlin0827 :KI的上篮比较神 09/17 08:21
9F:→ angubo :rubio的进攻…加油吧 09/17 08:26
10F:推 loveinmars :阿西在篮下的上篮竟然有那种命中率 太吓人了.. 09/17 08:27
11F:→ kingrichman :上篮风格各有特色,curry小人物 wade豪洨 ki老练 09/17 08:28
12F:→ kingrichman :用命中率评判不准,因为内线球员都靠身材 09/17 08:29
13F:→ kingrichman :上篮技巧好大都是後卫球员,尤其很多都左右开弓 09/17 08:30
14F:→ kingrichman :KI就是标准左右两边上篮都很强的 09/17 08:31
15F:推 twsoriano :Anthony上篮的目的是进攻篮板 09/17 08:32
16F:推 rbking21 :KI一定要换手 Rose一定要拉竿XD 09/17 08:33
17F:推 kart :怎麽看都觉得阿喜最惊人.....lol 09/17 08:41
18F:推 semicoma :但是进球拿两分只看命中率不看技术啊 09/17 08:42
19F:→ kart :LBJ去年其实罚球率好像是新人年後新低,否则命中率会 09/17 08:43
20F:→ kart :更威吧 09/17 08:43
21F:推 eazie :LBJ 09/17 08:59
22F:→ idiotsmart :除了阿西惊人的命中率外,西河上篮次数也很夸张 09/17 09:01
23F:推 mark0912n :Rose都是跳起来之後再找篮框的... 09/17 09:04
24F:推 pounil :MELO放枪.......... 09/17 09:04
25F:推 nostar :果然有阿西 XDDD 09/17 09:05
26F:推 micbrimac :Rubio连上篮命中率都这麽惨 那到底还有甚麽命中率可 09/17 09:09
27F:推 nekoares :Isaiah Thomas的上篮真的很爽,看起来超爽快 09/17 09:10
28F:推 alexrules :原波给推吗 09/17 09:21
29F:推 ooplus :汤玛士那个身材才叫做难能可贵... 09/17 09:34
30F:→ Yukirin :把篮框改成胯下的造型我想Rubio应该可以塞的超准吧 09/17 09:37
31F:推 jcto04 :鲁小比的上篮... 09/17 09:41
32F:推 eliczone :这篇完全不知所云....Isaiah和Thornton上篮出手数才 09/17 09:43
33F:→ eliczone :多少....都不用考虑出手比例的吗 那小王子才是最强 09/17 09:44
34F:→ HolyBugTw :冰人未提... 09/17 09:48
35F:→ idiotsmart :这篇是以去年为基准阿 当然不会有冰人 09/17 09:49
36F:推 eliczone :近几年上篮王有几个人选 D. Wade R. Westbrook 09/17 09:54
37F:推 eliczone :T. Parker T. Evans M. Ellis 09/17 09:59
38F:推 EwoS :被犯规会算出手? 09/17 10:03
39F:→ EwoS :point/per lay up 感觉比较能反应 09/17 10:04
40F:推 RBC54321 :LBJ新人年後的连续4年罚球比今年还低唷 09/17 10:16
41F:推 tbi33 :翻译推 09/17 10:17
42F:→ HiddenWave :进攻手段很多的劣质组 09/17 10:22
43F:推 knight0123 :上篮也有分很多种啊,像高擦板.抛篮.换手上篮,拉杆~ 09/17 11:04
44F:→ knight0123 :NBA小个子为了躲长人的封盖练出的上篮技巧,超困难的 09/17 11:05
45F:推 lave70 :Parker的上篮的确也是一绝 09/17 11:10
46F:→ gepenny :西河绝对不会是上篮王人选 KI还比他合适 09/17 11:32
47F:推 eliczone :西河命中率可是比KI高哦 09/17 11:38
48F:推 airbear :现役上篮前二 TP LBJ 其他人只能抢老三 09/17 11:45
49F:推 lave70 :TP真的是各种上篮的姿势 09/17 11:58
50F:嘘 b00401002 : 09/17 12:20
51F:推 Drexler :好文 09/17 12:25
52F:→ gepenny :西河生涯近篮框命中率是56.8% KI是59.8% 09/17 13:47
53F:→ gepenny :更别说西河灌篮比KI更多 别说灌篮命中率比上篮低 09/17 13:48
54F:推 DampierFor3 :考量身高体型,上篮王绝对是选跑车第一 09/17 13:55
55F:推 opsddb :best应该要有CP3 09/17 14:06
56F:推 enpunto :灵活的双手 吱吱 09/17 14:52
57F:推 gn00945822 :TP是我心中的第一名 09/17 14:56
58F:推 kart :RBC54321兄,我要说的是平均罚球数而非命中率 :) 09/17 15:28
59F:→ kart :LBJ这两年很多上篮被犯规破坏裁判都不响哨,否则命中 09/17 15:28
60F:→ kart :率会比70%还惊人 09/17 15:29
61F:推 Kulan :竟然没提到手套 09/17 16:08
62F:→ Kulan :不过这名单是现役的样子 把伪笑汤看成真笑汤 = = 09/17 16:09
63F:→ Kulan :现役的话应该加入Evans才对 希望离开国王後有好发展 09/17 16:11
64F:推 Shinpachi :看到这篇我也以为会有上篮王EVNAS 09/17 16:22
65F:→ Shinpachi :*evans* 09/17 16:22
66F:推 opsddb :Tyreke Evans的命中率和这几位相比不够高 09/17 16:31
67F:推 GTR34 :奶油手上篮球会滑掉 09/17 16:43
68F:推 eliczone :要加上出手数才比较不会失真 这里面有几个出手数很低 09/17 17:31
69F:→ idiotsmart :其实"上篮出手"有150次以上就算不少了 09/17 18:34
70F:→ idiotsmart :因为作者在文章中比较基础是把上篮部分拉出来讨论 09/17 18:35
71F:推 lave70 :实在是由於那两位次数多得太夸张了XDD 09/17 19:41
72F:推 Cousins15 :idiotsmart大这篇先借我转国王讨论(有两位国王球员) 09/17 22:04
73F:→ Cousins15 :如果不行来信给我我会删除 谢谢你的翻译好文 09/17 22:04



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74F:推 ted198978:文章加推文 超多国王的 09/17 22:50
75F:→ starcry:以为会有TE 09/18 05:06







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