http://0rz.tw/C0png The Kings landed Vasquez in the Tyreke Evans sign-and-trade, but is the Venezuelan even better than incumbent Isaiah Thomas? There's a corollary between Isaiah Thomas and Jason Thompson, Greivis Vasquez and Carl Landry, the Kings' point guard spot and power forward position. IT以及JT，Vas与蓝追，这两个组合将在国王竞争PG以及PF的位子。 I.T. and J.T. have been challenged by potential replacements before, and have come out on top. Thomas has beaten Jimmer Fredette (picked 50 spots higher in the 2011 NBA Draft) and Aaron Brooks for his job. Thompson first knocked Mikki Moore out of the starting power forward spot, then beat back challenges from Landry, Sean May, Chuck Hayes, Thomas Robinson and now Patrick Patterson. And now Landry is back to try again. IT跟JT之前就曾经受到一些潜力股的挑战，而他们占据了首位。 IT击败了寂寞(2011年选秀高了他50顺位)和小AB。 JT先击败Mikki Moore抢到了先发，之後击退前来挑战的蓝追、Sean May、海爷、T-Rob 还有现在的PPT。而蓝追现在回来复仇了。 Vasquez is the newest challenger to I.T., but it seems really important to note that unlike Jimmer and Brooks, the Venezuelan is of a totally different style than Thomas. Fredette and Brooks are pretty similar to I.T. in style: score-first, pass-second, get out in transition. Vasquez is the Kings' first pass-first guard since Sergio Rodriguez. Vas是IT现在最新的挑战者，但是跟寂寞和小AB的情况不同 ，Vas是一个与IT完全不同的类型。 IT、寂寞、小AB这三个人风格相似，得分第一、传球第二。 Vas是国王自从S-Rod之後第一个传球第一的後卫(这实在有点悲剧)。 Landry, meanwhile, is coming in as -- in my opinion -- a top reserve. That's where Top Hat has seen his greatest success in recent years: as a top frontcourt scoring option off of the bench. It's also worth noting that his first run as a starter alongside DeMarcus Cousins didn't go too well. So while Landry is back and likely to steal minutes from Thompson, it's perhaps not as a direct challenger for the starting job. (Patterson is a different story.) 蓝追，在我看来，是一个顶级的预备。 这是这几年来Top Hat(这谁?)所得到的最大成功：一个前场的板凳暴徒。 值得注意的是，之前他与表弟同时先发的状况并不好。 所以蓝追会在JT背後偷走他一些时间，这也是另一种争夺先发的状况。(PPT是另一回事。) If you ignore Jimmer for a second and assume rookie Ray McCallum makes the roster, the Vasquez-Thomas point guard rotation makes a lot of sense. Look at their 2012-13 per-36 and shooting numbers. 如果你暂时忽略寂寞然後假设新秀Ray McCallum会在轮替里，Vas跟IT的PG轮替会有很大的 意义。看一下他们12-13的数据。 ╔════╦══╦══╦══╦══╦══╦══╦══╦═══╦═══╗ ║PLAYER　║PTS ║AST ║REB ║TOV ║2P% ║3P% ║FT% ║3P/FG ║FT/FG ║ ╠════╬══╬══╬══╬══╬══╬══╬══╬═══╬═══╣ ║Vasquez ║14.5║9.4 ║4.5 ║3.3 ║.461║.342║.805║ 24% ║ 0.15 ║ ╠════╬══╬══╬══╬══╬══╬══╬══╬═══╬═══╣ ║Thomas ║18.7║5.4 ║2.7 ║2.4 ║.491║.358║.882║ 38% ║ 0.34 ║ ╚════╩══╩══╩══╩══╩══╩══╩══╩═══╩═══╝ Isaiah is the better individual player. He scores way more, and does it more efficiently. (He's also younger [by three years] and currently cheaper.) But basketball's not an individual game. And we've never seen DeMarcus Cousins (or Ben McLemore, for that matter) with a pass-first point guard. Vasquez is certainly a pass-first point guard. Legitimately, his numbers look like Rajon Rondo lite, right down to the poor jump shooting. (Vasquez's value would go up if his shot frequency went down, though it's worth noting he's currently more efficient on threes than twos overall because of the added point on makes from beyond the arc. His 34 percent from three is the equivalent of 51 percent on twos.) IT是个比较会独立取分的球员。他得分较多，而且更有效率(也更年轻而且更便宜)。 但是篮球不是个人的比赛。 而我们也没有看过表弟(或是Ben McLemore)与一个传球优先的PG搭配过。 Vas绝对是一个传球优先的PG。合理地说，他的数据看起来像Rajon Rondo，跳投较 差。 (Vas的价值将会上升，如果他减少出手频率，但有一点可以注意一下，他的三分比 两分更有效率，因为在三分线外会多一分[这不是废话吗...]。34%的三分命中率相当 於51%的两分命中率。)这样IT的三分不是更好? Both guards are really aggressive, but in different ways: Vasquez is aggressive in making plays (see those turnovers, too?) and Thomas is an aggressive scorer. Both do the other thing pretty regularly (Vasquez can score and I.T. can pass), but the priorities are different. Why? Because, in my opinion, the skills are different. 这两个後卫都打得很积极，但是方法不同：Vas积极在於完成PLAY，而IT在於得分。 他们虽然也会做另一件事(IT传球、Vas得分)，但是优先顺序不同。 为什麽？我认为是因为技巧不同。 Because of all this, as the roster stands now, I think Vasquez will end up the starter but Thomas (if he isn't traded) will be a valuable bench option. The mystery component in the discussion is defense: I honestly don't know enough about Vasquez on that end, and frankly we've only seen Thomas on Keith Smart teams, so we don't know enough about I.T. on that end either. Size matters in defense, and Vasquez is about 10 inches taller than I.T. But that's not the whole equation, so clearly that's an unknown. One more note in the comparison: Vasquez is a better rebounder, and the Kings need rebounding. 基於这些状况，再观察阵容，我认为Vas最後会站上先发，而IT(如果没被交易)会是一个 很有价值的板凳。 会影响这结果的X因子是防守。 我承认我对Vas的了解并不足，坦白说我们也只看过IT在屎马特系统里的样子，所以我们 对他的了解也不够透彻。 Vas的身高比IT高了10寸，但这并不代表一切，所以这实际上是未知的。 另外一点，Vas的篮板比IT多，而国王需要篮板(找了一堆投篮大队真的是缺篮板....)。 But I think in the end, it makes more sense to see a playmaker like Vasquez try his hand with Cousins and either McLemore or Marcus Thornton in the starting five. I actually think I.T. and Landry would be a fierce pick-and-roll combo off of the bench, and we know Thomas is a helluva sparkplug in any role. 但是我认为，在最後，还是取决於Vas与表弟和先发SG(卖柠檬或MT)的搭配。 IT跟蓝追会是从板凳出发的PNR组合，而我们知道IT在任何角色都会是巨大的火星塞(?)。 The real question is how Pete D'Alessandro and crew handle this when both Vasquez and Thomas become restricted free agents in 2014, provided I.T. is retained. A big part of Thomas's draw is his contract value (dirt cheap). That's what makes the presence of Ray McCallum (who appears to be an I.T.-type scoring point) all the more intriguing. Thomas is more valuable as a trade asset the further from free agency he is. (Why? RFAs like I.T. will sign smaller contracts than someone like Tyreke Evans, so the team taking him -- assuming the Kings don't match -- would more easily be able to fit him under the cap or within a cap exception without giving up an asset.) So, now and approaching the trade deadline will be the best times to deal I.T. if you're going to deal him or let him go in a year when he hits the market. If McCallum shows in Summer League, preseason and early in the season that he can replicate much of what I.T. does, and if Vasquez is handling the starting job well, that'd could open the door to flipping Thomas for an asset at the deadline. 真正的问题是，2014年国王新八奇Pete D'Alessandro会怎麽处理Vas跟IT这两个RFA。 IT的合约价值很高。这使得Ray McCallum的存在很耐人寻味(他也是与IT同类型的得分PG)。 IT作为交易筹码比成为自由球员还要有价值。 (Why?IT这种RFA的约比起TE来说更小，所以其他队伍想要签他，假如国王不跟进的话， 很难会卡到他们薪资空间。) 所以，在交易截止前是交易IT的最好时机。 如果Ray McCallum在夏季联盟、热身赛或季初打出类似IT的数据， 而且Vas在先发又打得不错，那他们很有可能就会把IT交易出去。 Of course, Jimmer (under contract through 2014-15) could do that too, freeing up an I.T. trade. But every indication has been that Fredette is not long for this franchise. We'll see. 当然，寂寞(合约到14-15年球季)也有可能在IT交易案中被解放。 但是种种迹象显示，他在阵中待不长了。等着看吧。 (Cue the I.T. trade rumor that makes this entire thing irrelevant.) IT的交易传闻使得这件事有点不着边际。 ============================== 看了前半段感觉不错而来翻的我大大的错了.... 後面几乎都是废话阿..... 反正他认为Vas跟JT会先发，IT跟蓝追会是打PNR的板凳暴徒 但是卖抠龙打出来的话IT会被交易 这篇是写在Ellis传闻出来之前 --

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