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http://0rz.tw/f5jMO Three months after posting our initial impressions of Hassan Whiteside’s freshman season (our first scouting report on him actually came back in 2008), the dust has settled and has allowed us a much clearer picture of his strengths and weaknesses. 三个月前我们曾经介绍过白边 如今随着比赛的进行 我们慢慢的能揭开他神秘的面纱 Whiteside has emerged about as quickly as a prospect can when looking at where he was this time last year—a raw, rail-thin, anonymous big man coming off the bench in prep school, committed to play for a small Conference USA team in West Virginia. Whiteside faced significant question marks regarding his ability to even get eligible at Marshall from an academic standpoint, and was not receiving very much attention from the recruiting services. 嫩 , 高, 瘦 , 白边去年这个时候就很受到瞩目了 他承诺要爲一间私立学校打球 但是他的成绩却让他差点无法入学 并且学校球员招募处对他并没有特多兴趣 Fast-forward a year and Whiteside is fresh off being named C-USA’s top freshman and defensive player of the year, after leading the NCAA in blocked shots. He’s elevated his NBA draft stock significantly in the process, to the point that he’s being mentioned by many as a potential lottery pick and perhaps even higher. 他的第一年就成为了C-USA’的顶尖新人 当他成为NCAA火锅王後他当选年度最佳防守球员 他提升了自己的NBA顺位 他的身价目前已经来到了乐透区 甚至 更高的位置 Whiteside has progressed notably as the season moved on, seeing increased playing time and shouldering a bigger share of the offensive load for Marshall. Though he remains largely an unpolished prospect, particularly in terms of his footwork, post-moves and decision making ability, he shows flashes of potential in many different areas, namely his ability to put the ball on the floor, knock down mid-range jumpers and utilize his tremendous length to score inside. 白边在Marshall大学开季时就展现了进步 上场时间增加, 进攻的责任也增加 但他还有很多显而易见很嫩的地方 单打脚步,决策能力 同时他也有巨大的潜力 他有很棒的身材 能将球搞进篮框 同时他已经拥有了中距离跳投 Extremely aggressive looking to make things happen on the offensive end, Whiteside gets to the free throw line at an excellent rate, converting 60% of his attempts once there, and does an outstanding job of crashing the offensive glass and finishing around the rim. He has very good touch around the basket, as well as from the perimeter (even knocking down a couple of 3-pointers this season), clearly showing better scoring instincts than your typically raw mid-major big man. The terrific extension he gets around the rim, excellent shooting mechanics and high-release point on his turnaround jumper all leave plenty of room for optimism regarding his offensive potential once he’s able to fill out his lanky frame a bit. 进攻端他有很多值得期待之处 很能要到犯规 拥有禁区一人敌的潜力 放篮跟投篮的手感都很好 (甚至能投三分) 得分能力比想像中的只能投中距离的长人更好 进攻方面 恐怖的篮下能力+外围投篮手感+高出手点别人盖不到 让他在进攻端上有恐怖的潜力可以开发 Whiteside’s weaknesses as a prospect are often just as glaring as his strengths. His main issue revolves around his extremely underdeveloped frame, which hinders him on the offensive end, but more importantly makes him a constant target for post-up plays and renders him an exceptionally poor man to man defender against average college big men. Whiteside gives up deep position in the post with the greatest of ease--seemingly not even fighting back at times-- getting out of his stance quickly, bringing his hands down, and downright giving up on plays, thinking he’ll simply be able to recover and come up with a block, which at this level can indeed be the case on occasion. 他的缺点也很明显 主要身材过瘦,要练 这个缺点让他在打低位时吃不开 并且在1对1防守时连一些平均水准的大学长人都守不太住 很懒 禁区卡位不积极 很容易放弃卡好的位置 防人手都不举的 以为他的人高手长能盖到对方每个火锅 因为先天条件太好 以大学篮球的层级 他这种态度倒还吃的开 As a weak-side shot-blocker it’s an entirely different story, though, as indicated by the fact that he led the entire NCAA in this category on both a per-game and per-minute basis, which is extremely impressive considering the stage of development he’s currently at. Whiteside possesses freakish length— his wingspan is reportedly around 7-6—and he has absolutely terrific timing rotating, contesting and rejecting shots. He’s one of the most productive rebounders in college basketball for these same reasons. 火锅能力威震整个NCAA 因为他有7-6的翼展 又有盖锅直觉 并且他的篮板也因为身材太好 所以也很强 One of Whiteside’s biggest problems lies in his extremely poor passing ability. Playing 851 minutes on the season, Whiteside has dished out only 9 assists, a shockingly low number that ranks him amongst the worst in college basketball in that area. Watching him play, it’s clear that once he touches the ball, he sees nothing besides the rim, often forcing up extremely poor shots and having major issues dealing with double teams, which makes him very turnover prone. 传球能力很弱 本季出赛851分钟 只传出9助攻 几乎是大学长人最差的成绩 从比赛中发现只要球到手上 他就只有篮框 有时会出现不好的被迫出手 以及不会处理双人包夹的问题 因此,也常失误 Whiteside’s fundamentals, basketball IQ and overall awareness are well below average, even considering his freshman status. He at times looks out of place in Marshall’s half-court offense, looking as if he’s not quite sure where he should be at any particular moment, which at this late stage in the season makes you wonder about his ability to process an NBA team’s far more complex playbook. 篮球IQ 篮球认知 目前全在水平以下 有时他会搞不清楚Marshall的半场进攻在干嘛 就算球季已经快结束了依然会有这种恍神行为 让怀疑更复杂的NBA战术他能吸收多少 Whiteside had a very difficult time qualifying academically for college, only actually getting into school at age 20, and is reportedly having problems staying eligible now that he’s already there, which will likely leave him no choice but to enter this year’s draft. 成绩太差 学校可能不想继续收留他 可能被迫要参加本届选秀 “Immature” is the word you hear most often associated with Whiteside both on and off the court, as there will certainly be a large degree of hand-holding and coddling that whichever team drafts him needs to do in order to help him reach his full potential. There are major questions about his work ethic and intensity level, which is a bit concerning considering how far off he currently is from being able to contribute to an NBA team. We also need to keep in mind that despite his freshman status, he’s the same age as many college juniors, turning 21 this upcoming June. This obviously limits his upside to a certain degree. "不成熟" 是他在场上场下的名声 要选他的球队要耐性且要会养喔 才能开发他的全部潜在能力 对他的工作态度跟身体强度有没有办法适应NBA的质疑 没有停过 但别忘了 他才刚满21岁 依年龄来说只是个大学生 (译:好熟悉的话啊 好像哪里听过........) Despite the numerous red-flags and his clear-cut project status, Whiteside is an extremely interesting prospect thanks to his rare physical tools and super intriguing skill-level. At a certain point in the draft, the reward of picking him definitely outweighs the risk, as we’re obviously dealing with a special talent. NBA teams will need to do quite a bit of research into his background and psychological makeup, and figure out how much physical potential his frame has in terms of being able to add weight. Whiteside is clearly the type of guy that needs to go to the right organization, as he could easily get lost in the shuffle and find himself out of the NBA if he lands in the wrong place. 除了一些缺点外 他还是个令人很感兴趣的选秀目标 因为他的天份太好了 如果选了他 肯定是收成的机率要比风险大的多 就像我们一直强调的选天份优先 NBA球队们会对他的身家开始作详细调查 并且评估他有多少潜力可挖 包括还能增重多少肉 他是典型的要有球队会养不然会变烂掉的NBA潜力股 你心动了吗 XD == 基本资料: Hassan Whiteside 身高:7-0 年级:Freshman 位置:Center 学校:Marshall 今年成绩: 13.6 points, 9.2 rebounds, 0.3 assists, 1.9 turnovers, 5.4 blocks, 52% FG, 60% FT, 3-5 3P 高光: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJFUB98qaM
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1F:→ kingpredrag:连阿屁都养不好了,还是选Favors比较实在XD 04/14 23:42
2F:推 eliczone:不会传球这点 他会在西佛底下被干得要死 04/14 23:43
3F:推 eliczone:我比较喜欢表弟 坏男孩 04/14 23:43
4F:推 kikijuice:我支持选表弟 他的活动力 视野 都是一等一的 04/14 23:46
5F:推 Knicks:Durant才21岁,以年龄来说还是个大学生,咦...已经是得分王 04/14 23:49
6F:→ Knicks:外加MVP候选人,今年率领球队打进季後赛 04/14 23:50
7F:推 JerrydBatum:整季九助攻 为什麽平均有三助攻? 04/14 23:57
8F:→ RonArtest93:应该是0.3 网页打错 04/15 00:00
※ 编辑: RonArtest93 来自: 59.121.42.136 (04/15 00:01)
9F:→ RonArtest93:他最诱人的就是天份 好到很夸张 04/15 00:05
10F:→ RonArtest93:我觉得他的天份最後会让他进入TOP 5 04/15 00:06
11F:→ RonArtest93:(除非突然爆出什大问题 ) 04/15 00:06
12F:→ RonArtest93:我个人是非常喜欢他 当然也是因为天赋 04/15 00:07
13F:→ RonArtest93:好的长人少 七尺好的长人更少 年轻又充满潜力的七尺 04/15 00:10
14F:→ RonArtest93:那是少之又少 , 白边我觉得如果他能增重 整个就像 04/15 00:11
15F:→ RonArtest93:Andre Bynum 的体能加强板 , 这已经是接近franchise 04/15 00:12
16F:→ RonArtest93:等级的天份了 (如同去年的TE的天份之於PG ) 04/15 00:13
17F:→ RonArtest93:类似我们去年讨论会不会传球的TE要不要选一样 04/15 00:14
18F:→ RonArtest93:(rubio,建宁那时都看起来比TE保险的多) 04/15 00:15
19F:推 kingpredrag:我对他有点怀疑,因为他是在战力偏落的联盟,所以数据 04/15 00:15
20F:→ RonArtest93:白边之於今年其他成熟乐透长人会是另外一个有趣的议题 04/15 00:16
21F:→ kingpredrag:难免有灌水的疑虑。 04/15 00:16
22F:推 sokghiko:这种态度不好、战术吸收慢、靠身材的人最容易烂掉 04/15 00:18
23F:→ kingpredrag:Favors和表弟都身在比较强的联盟,队上也有其他球星分 04/15 00:18
24F:→ kingpredrag:食表现,但他们的数据都不会输白边,所以我还是以这两 04/15 00:19
25F:→ kingpredrag:位球员为优先考量。 04/15 00:19
26F:→ sokghiko:大学很威但後来烂掉的人在NBA可多着的呢 04/15 00:19
27F:推 eliczone:在较强联盟和较强队伍感觉上还是比较可靠 因为身经百战 04/15 00:20
28F:→ RonArtest93:恩 主要还是要看测试 数据的话每个人都很强我都自动 04/15 00:20
29F:推 GodEyes:KM、JT也是次级联盟选出来的,如果总管觉得想要这不会是 04/15 00:20
30F:→ RonArtest93:跳过 XD 04/15 00:21
31F:→ GodEyes:问题,说回来我还蛮喜欢他的,只是我对我们养长人的能力没 04/15 00:22
32F:→ GodEyes:信心 04/15 00:22
33F:推 kingpredrag:KM和JT的例子要考量到我们的签位都在中後段,所以会有 04/15 00:23
34F:→ RonArtest93:Favors和表弟就是那种选了会很保险的球员 04/15 00:24
35F:推 sokghiko:我觉的派崔後比较偏向选即战力,那应该只剩Favors、表弟 04/15 00:24
36F:→ kingpredrag:不同考量。 04/15 00:24
37F:→ RonArtest93:大概知道他们能提供即战力 但是也会知道他们的限度 04/15 00:25
38F:→ sokghiko:和CA 不知Udoh如何。他的队有进16强 04/15 00:25
39F:→ RonArtest93:到哪 白边是大概要养1~2年 (但絶对比HAWES好养) 04/15 00:26
40F:推 eliczone:明年就要能够有很大的进步 我想真的没办法等这麽久 04/15 00:26
41F:→ RonArtest93:但养出来你的禁区会有犯规等级的球员 04/15 00:26
42F:推 eliczone:除非明年能弄到另外一个柱子 不然真的需要即战力 04/15 00:27
43F:推 kingpredrag:Udoh也是乐透区的人选阿,白边有没有hawes好养我就不 04/15 00:27
44F:→ sokghiko:Monroe低位还蛮会磨的,但他体能不太好。 04/15 00:27
45F:→ RonArtest93:呵 那就放给别队去养吧 只是觉得错过很可惜 04/15 00:27
46F:→ kingpredrag:确定了,因为白边一直让我想到灰狼的Hollins 04/15 00:27
47F:推 michaelch:Hawes表示:听起来跟我差不多 04/15 00:29
48F:→ sokghiko:还是要司机第二Motiejunas。Vesely的体能和外线也蛮可口 04/15 00:30
49F:→ RonArtest93:我喜欢Vesely 大於 04/15 00:30
50F:→ RonArtest93:Motiejunas 04/15 00:30
51F:→ RonArtest93:目前啦 一方面是Motiejunas影片真的太少 04/15 00:31
52F:→ RonArtest93:二方面是Vesely的体能真的以白人来说到顶级了 04/15 00:31
53F:→ RonArtest93:但是他们两个我不太想赌 原因只有一个 04/15 00:33
54F:→ RonArtest93:近年来号称司机传人的 还没有一个比司机强 XDD 04/15 00:34
55F:推 eliczone:号称传人的 哪个比本尊还威的.... 04/15 00:36
56F:推 eliczone:我还是相信Petrie会给我们一个最好的选择 而且今年还有加 04/15 00:37
57F:推 eliczone:上Bobby和西佛一起看 04/15 00:37
58F:推 GodEyes:Motiejunas ESPN版本的掉出十名外很久了 04/15 00:41
59F:→ skcwebb:相信Petrie吧 看看reke! 04/15 00:45
60F:→ RonArtest93:可以这样分 04/15 00:46
61F:→ RonArtest93:即战力: favors,表弟 04/15 00:46
62F:→ RonArtest93:欧洲派:Vesely,Motiejunas 04/15 00:46
63F:→ RonArtest93:潜力派:白边,UDON,ED DAVIS 04/15 00:47
64F:→ RonArtest93: H 04/15 00:47
65F:→ RonArtest93:即战力但已成熟:Monore ,Aldrich 04/15 00:48
66F:推 kingpredrag:其实这样分有点问题耶,因为Udon和ED的潜力明显不如 04/15 00:49
67F:→ RonArtest93:当然细部还是有许多不同 但爲了好记我自己这样分 XD 04/15 00:49
68F:→ kingpredrag:favors,表弟,他们俩也还不算即战力吧,应该是这次选 04/15 00:50
69F:→ kingpredrag:潜力最好的长人 04/15 00:50
70F:→ kingpredrag:喔喔,了解 04/15 00:51
71F:→ RonArtest93:恩 或者说favors,表弟是公认的高顺位中选者会比较好 04/15 00:51
72F:→ RonArtest93:Udon我觉得潜力不输喔 ,看过一些他的比赛影片 04/15 00:52
73F:推 jh7735:看到防守那边 说真的我就没兴趣了 防守一字谓之心阿 04/15 00:53
74F:推 sokghiko:乾脆禁区用签的吧。禁区即战力影响力比较大。就跟当初签 04/15 00:53
75F:→ RonArtest93:天份,观念都很好.....会是一大黑马 04/15 00:53
76F:推 eliczone:这麽多只 我们却只能选一只..... 04/15 00:54
77F:→ sokghiko:假摔猪肉一样 04/15 00:54
78F:推 eliczone:我想要一次选三只啦!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04/15 00:54
79F:推 eliczone:Petrie 你给我认真点 再换二个第一轮回来 04/15 00:55
80F:推 kikijuice:不用太多只啦 把Noc换个好点的回来就好了 04/15 00:55
81F:推 kingpredrag:三个和尚没水喝啦,希望能选到真命天子就好 04/15 00:56
82F:→ RonArtest93:最好的 一只就够了 04/15 00:58
83F:→ RonArtest93:XD 04/15 00:58
84F:推 eliczone:一个选Favors 一个表弟 一个Turner 一次补齐 五门齐!!!!! 04/15 00:59
85F:推 eliczone:这样我们1到5号都很威 替补也很威 太可口的阵容了 04/15 01:00
86F:推 kingpredrag:板大FB可以这样玩,赌赌看XD 04/15 01:01
87F:推 eliczone:哈哈哈 04/15 01:01
88F:→ RonArtest93:板大疯了 @@ 04/15 01:04
89F:推 sokghiko:该不会最後选那几个摇摆人吧= = 如果抽到状元签要留谁. 04/15 01:08
90F:推 kikijuice:不会啦 只要我们有前三顺位 基本上除了Wall和Turner 04/15 01:11
91F:→ kikijuice:绝对会选长人 04/15 01:11
92F:推 sokghiko:如果抽到状元签就有趣了 04/15 01:12
93F:推 felmizan:看到篮球IQ和篮球认知在水准以下有点担心 04/15 01:14
94F:推 KillLakers:态度和实力+潜力不能兼得吗.............. 04/15 01:19
95F:推 buzzmumu:火锅好销魂 04/15 01:19
96F:推 kikijuice:我也很好奇 Petrie如果真的选到John Wall 他自由市场 04/15 01:34
97F:→ kikijuice:会选哪些人进来搭配他 Wall跟TE要怎麽搭配 04/15 01:35
98F:→ kikijuice:TE对我们来说已经是Savior了 但若真拿到状元签 04/15 01:35
99F:→ kikijuice:Petrie有不把Wall留下来的勇气吗? 04/15 01:36
100F:推 hihi29:抢到状元签当然是向下抢劫啊 04/15 02:27
101F:推 mtmmy:以我们养长人的功力 应该会烂掉 04/15 03:14
102F:推 IWF:WALL跟TE,那票房一定满档了.... 04/15 08:59
103F:推 squall9510:可能是翼展的关系感觉是比Hawes好养 旦感觉眼中只有得 04/15 10:26
104F:→ squall9510:分跟火锅 天份满点 旦还是希望表弟或Favors 好难抉择 04/15 10:28
105F:→ squall9510:喔 让派崔跟Bobby去伤脑筋 04/15 10:29
106F:→ IWF:小号塔比特吗?看到这边,我是怕了 04/15 10:54
107F:推 winnabe:说真的...看到不用心 说会打多好感觉都骗人的QQ 04/15 11:31
108F:推 GSkin:感觉不是总管的菜 大概选他的机会不大 04/15 14:18







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