作者felmizan (飞鸢)
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标题The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post (中央组)
时间Fri Jan 29 22:14:29 2010
Chicago Bulls
Source: Stormin' Norman Disciple of Pippen Aint Easy and Not Qualified to
Comment
Team Needs: "As has been much publicized, the Bulls biggest obvious need is a
scoring big man since they are so reliant on the mid-range jumper. The other
need that I have spoken about constantly on NQTC is a big guard that can
shoot the 3. No one can score from 3-point land on the Bulls right now (and
don't say Salmons, he's not the same Salmons as last year)."
需求:公牛需要的是一个能擅长中距离得分的人;再来是会投三分的後卫(NQTC不知道是
指什麽)。目前公牛没有人会投三分,而且鲑鱼也不是去年的那条鲑鱼了。
Who Would You Want: "Kevin Martin and Andres Nocioni. I know Noce isn't
hitting 3s as much this season, but even his bad % would be great for the
Bulls."
想要的国王球员:小马丁和酒驾。虽然酒驾今年三分投得不多,但他的命中率对公牛也够
用了。
My Analysis: The Bulls have one guy I am very interested in: Tyrus Thomas.
Thomas is a very athletic, young PF, with great shotblocking ability and
decent rebounding. He hasn't yet played with any consistency, but Chicago
has been very down on him, and are reportedly willing to shop him. Perhaps
Noce and Beno could be given for Tyrus and Kirk, but Kirk's salary is quite
ridiculous for someone who really isn't that good. The Kings could
definitely use Noah, but he's probably untouchable.
分析:我对公牛的Tyrus Thomas很有兴趣。T. Thomas是一个健壮年轻的PF,火锅能力很
好、篮板还不错。
Likelihood of a trade between us: It's possible, especially if the rumors of
the Bulls still liking Nocioni are true. The thing about a trade with
Chicago though is that someone is going to have to take on a bad contract.
Chicago doesn't want to ruin too much of its cap space for next year. I
think the Kings will definitely take a long look at Tyrus and see if trying
to make a deal for him is worth it. Other than Tyrus though, there's nobody
that the Bulls might be willing to deal that the Kings might want.
可能的交易方案:这蛮有可能发生的,特别是如果公牛对酒驾有兴趣的乳摸是真的的话。
和公牛交易的话有人就必须吃下烂约。公牛不太可能破坏他们明年的薪资空间,我想国王
可能会好好的观察T. Thomas并评估值不值得。除了T. Thomas,没有国王想要而公牛愿意
给的。
Cavaliers
Source: John Bena, Manager of Fear the Sword
Team Needs: " If the Cavaliers have needs it seems they change on a
day-to-day basis. A week ago I would have said the Cavaliers need a PF that
could score and stretch defenses out of the lane to give LeBron more room to
do what he does attacking the basket. Then Mo Williams and Delonte West got
hurt. That leaves the back-court of the Cavaliers incredibly weak. The Cavs
are now 3-0 without Williams, 2-0 without West, including wins over the
Lakers, Thunder and Heat. The Cavs look like they are going to try and get
through it, but fans should suspect down-to-the-wire games like we saw
against the Heat until the Cavs get healthier."
需求:一星期以前我认为骑士需要一个PF,能得分、能拉大对手防守圈好让LBJ有空间切
入。但是後来Mo和Delonte West受伤,这让後场变得异常地弱。骑士在没有Mo的时候3-0
,没有West的时候2-0,包括赢了湖人、雷霆、热火。骑士看起来在调整好度过这段时期
,但是球迷在全员到齐前就只能看到比数咬得很紧的比赛了。
Who Would You Want: "Right now, only one player peaks my interest - Kevin
Martin. Martin would supply the Cavaliers another scoring threat, something
they can never have enough of. Bringing in Martin would take further
pressure off LeBron and would allow James to work more from the post where he
is really unstoppable, if he really focused on staying down there."
想要的国王球员:目前看来只有马丁,马丁可以为骑士提供前所未有的进攻威胁。而且还
能吸引LBJ留下来。
My Analysis: The Cavaliers are only going to focus on trades that will help
them win a championship, and perhaps not even then, as they're currently on
pace to finish with the best record in the league again. But whatever trade
they do would have to be a talent upgrade for them. They would love to have
Kevin Martin, but there isn't anyone on the Cavs roster other than James that
is better than Martin. They could perhaps be interested in Nocioni as a
stretch 4, but I doubt it. Too much long-term salary for someone who isn't
nearly as good of an option as Troy Murphy or Antawn Jamison. Now there are
a couple of people I like on the Cavs: JJ Hickson, and Leon Powe. The thing
about a Hickson is he's a good scorer, but lacks enough defending and
rebounding, and Powe is coming back from another huge injury and won't be
available to play till February.
分析:骑士在寻求可以协助他们夺冠的人,或是创下联盟最佳战绩。和他们的交易一定要
有天分提升,他们要马丁,但是他们能超越马丁的只有LBJ。骑士可能会想要酒驾,但我
很怀疑。太多其他的长约比酒驾更好,比方说Troy Murphy or Antawn Jamison。我对骑
士的JJ Hickson, and Leon Powe比较有兴趣。Hickson是一个得分好手,但防守和篮板不
好;Powe因伤的问题到二月以前都不能打。
Likelihood of a trade between us: Very, very unlikely. The Cavs might be
willing to throw a Powe or Jawad Williams for Sergio, but I don't see why the
Kings would do it when there would likely be other better options. Kevin
Martin would be perfect on Cleveland next to James, but the Cavs would
definitely need other teams to be involved since they have nobody the Kings
would want for Martin. The Cavs are focused on a Championship now so they
can convince LeBron to stay. Martin is pretty much the only player on the
roster that would help them do that, and he's not going to Cleveland.
可能的交易方案:非常不可能。骑士会想用Powe和Jawad Williams换SROD,不过在没有更
好的提案下,我想不出国王为什麽要换。马丁在骑士是仅次於LBJ的人。骑士可能要找第
三队加入吧,不然他们没有我们值得换马丁的人。骑士想要问鼎冠军好让LBJ留下来,马
丁大概是骑士阵营中唯一一个可以帮到这件事的人,而他不会去克里夫兰。
Pistons
Source: Brian Packey, Co-Manager of Detroit Bad Boys
Team Needs: "Some Pistons fans think the team needs a true point guard
because Rodney Stuckey is not the guy, but I think that's still up in the
air. What this team really needs, and I think all Pistons fans can agree on
this, is a big man that can score and match up with the other bigs, like KG
and Dwight Howard. Charlie Villanueva, somewhat surprisingly, is very
efficient in the post, but he's a stretch forward like Rasheed Wallace was.
Ben Wallace can defend with the best of them, but he's not a scorer and he
won't be around much longer."
需求:活塞球迷认为他们需要一个真正的控球後卫,因为Stuckey并不是。但我想一切还
没决定。这个球队需要而球员愿意的,只有能像KG、Howard那样能得分能防守的大个子。
Villanueva很意外的在未来很有效,但他是一个中长距离的前锋,像溪蛙一样。班蛙可以
防守,但他不会进攻,而且他也不可能待太久。
Who Would You Want: "You sure we can't have Evans? First guy that gets my
attention is Spencer Hawes. He's young, he can score (from all over, too),
and maybe most important, he's a seven footer. He kind of reminds me of
Mehmet Okur, who coincidentally the Pistons had when they won the 'ship in
2004. Other than Evans and Hawes, I'd love to have Kevin Martin (who I had
the pleasure of seeing play all the way back when he was at Western
Carolina), but that's just not feasible considering the Pistons have more
than enough guards as is. Casspi is another guy that has brought up on our
site as a guy the Pistons maybe shouldn't have passed on in the first round.
Despite the numbers being in favor of Casspi, I don't know if I would make
the trade-off."
想要的国王球员:你确定我们不能有Evans?首先我想到的是小屁孩,他年轻、他可以得
分、而且最重要的,他七尺(XDD)。他让我想起Okur,他在活塞夺冠时正好在队中。除了
Evans和小屁孩,我想要马丁。但那是一个不可行的想法,因为活塞的後卫多到满出来。
小卡是另一个可能,他是那种活塞第一轮不会放过的球员。仅管很多人支持换小卡,但我
不确定是否会施行。
My Analysis: The Pistons probably want to get rid of at least one, if not
both, of the combo of Rip Hamilton/Tayshaun Prince. Both those guys are
eating up a lot of cap space, play the same position as new member Ben
Gordon, and are on the downswing of the careers. I also don't want the Kings
anywhere near those guys. Maxiell looks like he could be what we need on
paper, but honestly he's not a starter quality player and yet he makes $5
million a year for 3 more years. The only guy I could see the Kings trying
to make a move for in my opinion? Kwame Brown. Yes, he's a bust, but right
now he's a cheap center who is a good defensive rebounder and decent interior
defender.
分析:活塞想丢掉Rip和小王子中至少一个,两个更好。这两个都开始吃薪资空间了,表
现也下滑了,而且同个位置还有Ben Gordon。我也不觉得国王会要这样的球员。Maxiell
看起来是我们需要的球员,但他不是一个好先发,而且接下来三分还要吃掉五百万。唯一
可能的是Kwame Brown。虽然没有很强,但他是一个便宜的中锋,有好的防守篮板和内线
防守。
Likelihood of a trade between us: Not good. If the Kings did want to acquire
Brown, all it would take would be Hilton Armstrong, thanks to the 125% rule
and it would save the Pistons a little bit of money, which could be something
they're looking for, since reports are that the team is for sale. Other than
that though, I don't see the Kings wanting any of the Pistons big contracts,
and I don't see the Pistons willing to give up any of their young, cheap guys.
可能的交易方案:没什麽好选择,但如果国王要夸米,那可能要出到阿姆斯壮,而125%的
规则可以帮活塞省到一点钱,自从活塞打算卖球队後,他们就对这些事很感兴趣。我看不
出国王会想要活塞的大约,而活塞也不可能放弃他们的年轻便宜球员。
Pacers
Source: Tom Lewis, Manager of Indy Cornrows
Team Needs: "Need assets in the form of young talent, expiring money for cap
space or draft picks. The Pacers have big contracts in Troy Murphy, Mike
Dunleavy, Jeff Foster, T.J. Ford and Jamaal Tinsley that all come off the
books after the 2010-11 season so all of those players are available (not
Tinsley obviously, but the rest) for the right deal."
需求:溜马需要一些年轻的天分、到期约和选透权。目前Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy,
Jeff Foster, T.J. Ford and Jamaal Tinsley身上都有大约,但都在2010-11结束,所以
这些人都可以交易。
Who Would You Want: "Two Kings I'd like to see the Pacers acquire and why: 1.
Kenny Thomas for his $8.7 millions expiring contract 2. Kevin Martin - Danny
Granger needs another consitent scoring option to run alongside and the
Pacers have done well in the past with shooting guards with a strange
release. Also, Martin always seems to light it up at Conseco Fieldhouse so
why not try it for 41 games."
想要的国王球员:KT,因为他的到期约;马丁,因为妙丽需要一个帮手。同时马丁也能替
Conseco Fieldhouse增添光彩。
My Analysis: Danny Granger is possibly my favorite player in the league who
hasn't donned a Kings jersey. I would love a Martin for Granger swap, but
Larry Bird would hang up the phone almost immediately. Troy Murphy would
actually be a big help for the Kings, since he can hit his shots and is an
absolutely phenomenal defensive rebounder, and not a bad defender either,
although he doesn't block shots. K-9 for Murphy would work, but the Cavs
could and probably would outbid us. We all know how underrated a rebounder
Jeff Foster is as well, and I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Kings Uni if we
could unload Noc for him, but the Pacers aren't looking to add money. I
don't want to be anywhere near Dunleavy or Ford, both players who don't
really deserve their contracts. Tom thinks that Ford could work well next to
Evans, but I'd rather have Kevin Martin any day of the week. Hibbert and
Hansbrough are nice young pieces, but the Kings could have had Hibbert if
they wanted and stuck with JT instead. Hibbert is also probably considered
untouchable by Bird unless something blows him over.
分析:妙丽是我在联盟中除了国王以外最喜欢的球员。我会愿意用马丁换妙丽,但是大鸟
听到应该会立刻挂我电话。Murphy对国王会很有帮助,因为他可以进攻也会抢篮板,防守
也不差(即使火锅不行)。KT换Murphy或许可行,但骑士可能会抢赢我们。我们都知道
Jeff Foster的篮板能力被低估了,我也不介意拿酒驾换他。至於Dunleavy和Ford相较於
他们的约就不值得了。有人认为Ford会是Evans的好帮手,但我比较想看到马丁来做。
Hibbert和Hansbrough都是好的年轻球员,但是弄来Hibbert必需要动到JT。而且Hibbert
看起来是大鸟不想放的人。
Likelihood of a trade between us: I definitely see Troy Murphy moving at the
deadline, and I think the Kings could definitely be interested. He doesn't
really help our Interior D, but he's a better interior defender than JT or
Spencer, and one of the best defensive rebounders in the league, which would
help us tremendously. The Kings could probably offer something more
palatable to the Pacers than the Cavs as well, since K-9's expiring would be
less money than Murphy's contract and the only expiring the Cavs have is Z,
who is at $11.5 million. The Pacers would shave some long term money dealing
Murphy for Z, but they would lose some short term, while they would gain some
short term money by dealing for K-9. The Kings could also probably sweeten
the deal with Sergio for Earl Watson or something. Foster could be another
player the Kings go after.
可能的交易方案:我确定Troy Murphy会被交易,同时我相信国王有兴趣。他并不会帮到
我们内线的防守,但他内线防守比JT和小屁孩强,同时也是联盟中的防守篮板好手,这对
我们帮助很大。国王可以出比骑士更诱人的选择,因为K9代表着省钱,而骑士大Z虽然也
是到期约,但更大张。换K9的话短期之内就能省下钱,而且国王可能还可以出到Srod去换
Earl Watson等。Foster是另一个国王想要的人。
Bucks
Source: Frank Madden, Manager of Brew Hoop
Team Needs: "I'd say our major needs are a wing scorer (esp. with Redd done)
and an athletic 4/5 (someone who can block shots, rebound, maybe hit an open
15-footer)... What they need more than anything is to hit another home run in
the draft, but their decent start to this season may end up being a bit of a
curse in the long run given where they'll probably end up drafting. This
draft has a ton of quality PFs, but I'm guessing the Bucks won't be bad
enough to get a guy like Favors or Ed Davis."
需求:主要的需求是得分手或体能内线,然而他们更需要一次成功的选秀,只是他们目前
的先发好像不太帮忙。明年选秀有很多好大前锋,但公鹿不够差到去争取Favors或Ed
Davis。
Who Would You Want: "Looking at the Kings roster, obviously a healthy Kevin
Martin would look great on any roster but I really don't know if the Bucks
would add another big contract while Redd is still on the books. I'm a fan
of Jason Thompson, but I don't see an obvious deal that makes sense for both
teams...I assume you guys would need to be bowled over. Among role players,
Garcia would be interesting if he was healthy, but his contract and health
status probably make that a non-starter."
想要的国王球员:看来看去一个健康的马丁是最好的选择,但我不确定公鹿在麦克红之後
还会想要一张大约。我是JT的球迷,但似乎没有一个对双方球队都合理的方案。老贾如果
健康的话,也是一个可能的人选,但是他的约和健康情形大概不像是个先发。
My Analysis: The Bucks are in a bad spot with Redd's second MCL injury. His
contract is huge and its blocking them from being anything other than MLE
players next year. Of their other contracts, only Dan Gadzuric's could be
considered bad. I like Ersan Ilyasova a lot (I think he's the Turkish Lamar
Odom), but I don't see a trade that could work out there, and Omri Casspi
does a lot of what he does. Mbah ah Moute is nice, but Donté does a lot of
what he does now, and with better scoring.
分析:麦克红受伤对公鹿损失惨重,而且这张大约对公鹿明年争取中产球员也造成困难。
我喜欢Ersan Ilyasova,但是似乎没有可行的方案。
Likelihood of a trade between us: Slim to none. I guess the Kings could swap
Nocioni for Gadzuric's somewhat shorter contract, but Gadzuric, although a
decent shotblocker and rebounder, is not that good of a player. Frank takes
it from here: "Overall, I wouldn't be disappointed if the Bucks simply stand
pat, clear their expirings, draft well and see if they can get a guy like
Childress with an MLE deal this summer. At this point I don't see them
making a trade that significantly upgrades the roster, but they do have some
usable young pieces and expiring deals."
可能的交易:看来机会不大。大概就是用酒驾换Gadzuric把约换短一点,可是Gadzuric不
大强。目前看起来是不可能有大幅度的加强,但是他们确实有一些年轻球员和到期约。
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1F:→ MB10:一楼是我的 01/29 22:18
2F:推 sk050607:老实说我比较想要公牛TT 渴望禁区棒子阿= = 01/29 23:03
3F:推 hitoku:I love TT too 01/29 23:14
4F:推 eliczone:每队都要KM 所以KM的价值很高 因此我更不想换 XDDDDDDDD 01/29 23:31
5F:推 eliczone:这麽好的球员 每队都要的 为什麽国王不要? 我们的火力真 01/29 23:32
6F:推 eliczone:的够了吗? 只要让他和reke搭起来 这个後场真的会吓死人 01/29 23:32
7F:推 kingpredrag:但看ptt的讨论区别队乡民好像都觉得KM不怎样 01/29 23:33
8F:推 eliczone:科科 他们对战绩不好的球队一点概念都没有 01/29 23:35
9F:推 eliczone:KM的得分效率可是排名前几的 01/29 23:35
10F:推 kingpredrag:NQTC=Not Qualified To Comment=公牛部落格的名字 01/30 00:09
11F:推 kingpredrag:第十推 01/30 00:18
12F:推 KillLakers:两支传球能力都不太好 势必要摆三卫or大概是KM板凳 01/30 08:09
13F:→ KillLakers:禁区缺人这麽强的板凳不如换好用的禁区 不要再换一些 01/30 08:11
14F:→ KillLakers:表现周期性(爆炸性?)的球员了.....每场都好抖.... 01/30 08:11
15F:推 Kshatri:搜寻关键字"Martin"..得到395,000,000个结果XD 01/30 08:34
16F:推 RonArtest93:这一区溜马有一些机会 溜马好像很喜欢跟我们交易 01/30 14:06
17F:→ felmizan:感谢k大解释~~ 01/30 15:10
18F:→ felmizan:Murphy超会抢篮板的可能很适合我们 01/30 15:15