作者oldtrafford (oldtrafford)
看板KingofPop
标题Re: [情报] Jermaine出书访问谈到MJ
时间Fri Sep 16 23:43:58 2011
还是有人在看 我就继续贴下去啦 应该在三篇左右结束
Chapter 19 - Unbreakable
2001 - Invincible release. 30th anniversary concert. CBS Executives insisted
on a Jacksons reunion as a part of the deal. Randy and Jermaine having
problems with David Gest for charging $2,500 for a top-tier ticket and no
hint of Motown on the show. So they release statement about the prices and
say they won't perform. Later back down because it was important to create a
special night for Michael. Jermaine says they didn't see much of Michael -
other than the performance and rehearsal.
2011年 万夫莫敌发行 三十周年演唱 CBS的执行制作开出的条件是说要J家兄弟再次同台
JJ和Randy不爽David Gest最贵的票要卖到2500美金 所以发表共同宣言说不去表演 後来
还是去参加 因为那天对MJ是重要的一天 说除了彩排和演出几乎没看到MJ
9/11. Michael overslept because he went to bed late and didn't go to his
appointment at Twin Towers. Marlon was in air but okay. Janet tried to send
tour busses but they weren't allowed to Manhattan. Randy and Jermaine stop a
bus on the street and put everyone in and drive to California. Michael makes
his own getaway plan. "what more can I give?" song. Sony doesn't release it.
Michael's relationship with Mottola is turning bad slowly.
911 MJ睡过头所以没去双子星大楼开会 Marlon那天已经坐飞机出发但没事 珍娜尝试派
车来接他们 但是不能进入曼哈顿 Randy和JJ在街上弄了个巴士把大家放进去开回加洲
MJ自己走自己的(去了卡西欧家避难) MJ写了what more can I give 钱尼不发行 MJ和
魔老板关系越来越糟
Family meeting at Hayvenhurst. after the 30th anniversary in NY, family
thinks Michael is again having problems with prescription drug dependency.
Early 2002 Intervention at Neverland - Jermaine was out of town. Katherine,
Jackie, Tito, Randy, Janet, Rebbie and La Toya with a doctor go to Neverland.
Guards don't let them in, one brother jump the gate. Tito asks Michael if
something was wrong.
在30周年演出大家见到MJ後 怀疑MJ又有药物上瘾的问题 2002年他们杀去梦幻庄园 JJ出城
没去 J妈Jackie Tito Randy Janet Rebbie和LaToya带着医生去了梦幻庄园 警卫不让他们
进去 一个兄弟爬门杀入 Tito问MJ是不是有什麽问题
"Michael was reassuring and relaxed. He said everyone had got it wrong. He
was fine; there was nothing wrong with him, he insisted. Even the doctor had
to agree. So there was actually no intervention and everyone departed happier
if not 100 percent reassured."
MJ看起来快乐放松 说没什麽问题 他很好 坚称自己没有什麽大问题 医生也同意 所以其实
并没有所谓的"介入"的事情 大家离开时有开心一点 但没有完全的被说服
Jermaine says later Michael admit in lawsuits that his judgement could have
been impaired due to painkillers. So "no doubt concealment was going on".
Reason for the second dependency - bridge fall in 1999.
JJ说MJ後来在法院诉讼时表示自己的判断力因为止痛药而受损 说MJ隐瞒了他第二次止痛药
上瘾问题 说原因是99年坠桥的意外 (不过我印象MJ那个诉讼讲讲的是03年左右)
Jermaine is also angry that the press portrayed this "non-intervention" as an
"intervention".
JJ火大媒体乱报这个事件 因为他们其实没去介入什麽 但媒体说有
Sony: Relationships are getting worse and Michael would seek "divorce from
Mottola". Michael finds out his masters aren't reverting to him until
2009/2010 (he thought 2000) and the lawyer who advised him also advised
Sony.Michael wants to get out of his contract early. Conditions : one more
album (Invincible), one greatest hits (number ones) and a box set. So as
Michael was leaving with his share in the catalog, they wanted Michael to
fail so that they can control the catalog. Invincible. Sony doing the minimum
required contractually.
MJ和钱尼关系变糟 MJ想要跟魔老板离婚 发现母带要到09-2010年才会还他 MJ以为是2000
年 说他的律师也同时是钱尼的律师(John Branca) MJ想要脱离他的合约 条件是再发一张
专辑(万夫莫敌) 一张精选(number ones) 还有盒装精选 MJ想要带着那些音乐版权离开
钱尼想要MJ失败所以能掌控那些版权 钱尼只有照着合约造小限度的宣传万夫莫敌
"But Michael felt it went deeper than that with Sony, especially after he’d
heard from fans who couldn’t find the album in certain stores. He based that
on information received in a phone call from someone he trusted. He felt
strongly that everything was designed to back him into a financial corner:
the less successful his albums, the less royalty income. The less he earned,
the more reliant he’d be on his share of the Sony-ATV catalogue which he’d
already borrowed against to the tune of $200 million from Bank of America . .
. guaranteed by Sony. And the more debt he had, the stronger the chance he’d
be forced to sell his interest in the catalogue. At least, that was Michael’
s thinking."
MJ觉得事情大有问题 因为他听到歌迷说在某些店都找不到专辑 说MJ的消息是来自於他很
信任的来源 MJ认为一切是要压迫他的经济 他的专辑越不成功 版税收的越少 他赚的越少
而他在音乐版权的所有权就可能因此变少 此时他已经用SONY/ATV向美国银行借贷两亿
SONY是做保的人 而他如果有越多债务 他越有很可能被迫出售版权 起码这是MJ的看法
(不过到底这两亿是用去哪?? 做其他生意? 还是扩张SONY/ATV?)
Sony protests. Jermaine says Invincible not maxing sales because Michael
didn't tour isn't true. He says that a worldwide and US tour was planned to
start early spring 2002 but Michael cancelled it after 9/11. This causes an
argument between Mottola and Michael, Michael angry that they are not
promoting his album, Mottola angry that Michael cancelled the tour. Jermaine
explains Michael's reason not to tour that he could be a hit for terrorist
attacks and Michael didn't want to risk his staff and fans. Jermaine says if
9/11 didn't happen Michael would be touring 2002 spring to 2004
MJ抗议钱尼的活动 说销售不加是因为MJ没有演唱会来宣传是不对的 说原来MJ打算02年
开始美国和世界巡回 但是因为911取消 导致MJ和魔老板大吵 MJ火大他们不宣传他的专辑
魔老板火大MJ取消巡回 JJ解释MJ是害怕被恐怖份子攻击 造成他员工和歌迷的危险 说如
果没发生911 MJ在02-04年会巡回
"Since 2009, there has been a lot of debate and misunderstanding about my
brother’s appetite for the road because he made no secret of the fact that
he didn’t like touring. It induced anxiety, insomnia and dehydration, and
left him feeling miserable. His insomnia was the curse of live shows that
left him filled with adrenaline. Other artists may empathize with this, but
Michael suffered chronically. That was why, on most tours, he took a
qualified anaesthetist with him. This choice had nothing to do with a
prescription-drug dependency, and everything to do with the desperate need to
sleep when on the road; he needed to be knocked out in order to rest. But
with a specialist alongside him—and his intake closely monitored. Michael
also trusted that his physicians would monitor him at all times while he was
under. While this may seem unorthodox, it was his coping mechanism when
touring—a quick fix to a long-term problem that illustrated the downside to
touring."
从 09年之後对MJ到底喜不喜欢巡演有很多争论和误解 因为MJ讲的很清楚 他不喜欢巡回
造成他很焦躁 失眠和脱水 让他感觉非常糟糕 MJ的会因为演唱会时肾上激素激增失眠
有些艺人很喜欢这种感觉 但MJ受这个慢性折磨 所以这就是为什麽很多巡回时 他会带着麻
醉医生跟着他 跟药物上瘾的问题无关 一切只跟他巡回时实在太想要睡觉有关 他需要被
迷昏来休息 (阿娘为 Murray的辩护律师很开心) 有专业人员在他身边小心监控 MJ相信
他的医生会小心看照他 虽然这种方式很不正统 但这是他对付长期问题的捷径
(Murray的律师可以传Jermaine出庭作证了)
Michael said "no more touring" since 1981 but still toured because he loved
the stage. He could also say I'm not touring to one person and turn and say
I'm touring to another person.
从81年MJ就一直说他再也不要巡回了 但是还是一直巡回 因为他热爱舞台 他也会一下跟
某人说我不要巡回了 但又跟另一个人说我要巡回
Debbie and Michael's seperation. Jermaine knows nothing but doesn't think
there was any heartbreak.
讲到MJ和DR分开 JJ不清楚任何事情 但他不觉得MJ有伤心
"But Michael wanted more children so “Blanket” came along as a result of
artificial insemination with an anonymous surrogate mother. Nobody knows who
she is, not even the family.".
但MJ想要更多孩子 所以毯毯就跑出来了 没人知道毯毯妈妈是谁 就算J家人也不知
Blanket and hotel incident.
讲到毯毯柏林晃小孩事件
"Michael was probably the most forgetful person I knew—because, as an
artist, he was preoccupied with creativity. One Family Day at Hayvenhurst,
Prince and Paris were there with “Blanket” who was still in diapers, tucked
up in a carrier-cradle. At the end of a happy afternoon, Michael’s chauffeur
loaded everything into the trunk and the children got in the car. We were all
on the steps and Michael was all smiles, with his arm waving out the window
as they drove away. We knew what he had forgotten even if he didn’t. How
long would it be before he realized? We waited and waited. About five minutes
later, we saw the nose of the car turn back into the driveway. The car door
flew open and Michael jumped out, looking all sheepish and with his hand to
his mouth, dashed out, rushed by us and hurried back inside. “Oh, I forgot
Blanket!”"
MJ大概是我认识最健忘的人之一 因为身为艺术家脑袋老实被创意装满 有一次在老家家族
聚会 MJ带了三个孩子来 毯毯还在包尿舖放在婴儿车里 在聚会完後MJ准备打道回府 孩子
们也爬进车里 我们都在台阶上 MJ笑眯眯把手伸出车外跟他们说掰掰 说大家都知道MJ忘了
什麽东西 但MJ没发觉 说在想MJ到底何时会想起来 大家等等等 大概五分钟之後 发现车子
折回来 门马上打开MJ跳出来 摀着嘴害羞的朝他们狂奔冲进房子说 喔 我忘记毯毯了 (XD)
Arvizos. Bashir interview. Jermaine watching the interview on TV (he had no
idea of what's going on before the interview). Getting angry as he sees the
edit to portray Michael in a bad light. The Michael Jackson Interview: The
Footage You Were Not Meant To See. Bashir pay tribute to Michael after his
death saying "“There was a small part . . . which contained a controversy,
but the truth is that he was never convicted of any crime, I never saw any
wrong-doing myself and while his lifestyle may have been a little unorthodox,
I don’t believe it was criminal.” Too little too late.
讲到Gavine家 Bullshit的访问 JJ说他在电视上看的 他事前不知道任何事情 看完很火大
剪接的方式 讲到反击片 还有Bullshit在MJ死後改变说词 JJ说这一切都太少和太迟了
Chapter 20 - 14 White Doves
Neverland raid. Michael trashing his hotel room in Las Vegas when hearing the
news. Michael never stayed in the main house again, stayed in the "Elizabeth
Taylor" guest house. Flying back to LA, surrendering, hand-cuffs.
梦幻装原被搜索 MJ在拉斯维加斯听到消息时把饭店房间打烂了 MJ没再回到主屋 而是
睡在客房 飞回LA投案 被手铐铐进警察局
"Michael returned to Vegas and started to talk. It was less an opening up and
more of an unloading of concern about a group which I’ll call “The Men’s
Club of Beverly Hills”—a group of well-connected power brokers from the
music industry who, he said, were behind everything and “trying to bring me
down” and he added: “They don’t want me around . . . They want me in jail
. . . They want to finish me.”"
MJ回到LV 讲了一些事情 JJ没讲明 说MJ讲到有一群比佛利山庄音乐产业权势很大的一群
人是背後的主谋 MJ说他们想要把我扯下来 他们想要我进监牢 想要我结束
"it was the sincerity of his tone that got me thinking because—whether true
or not—we as a family could see the financial rationale in where he was
pointing us: that if he went to prison, what control would he have over the
catalogue as a convicted criminal? And with countless lawsuits against him
lining up like planes from certain business dealings, he’d likely lose them
all from prison. This outcome would have ultimately led to big losses and him
defaulting on his bank loan—and his share of the catalogue would revert to
Sony."
JJ说MJ讲到一切时非常的认真 不论事情真假 我们家都可以看到财政背後的原因 如果
他进了监牢被定罪的话 他还会有多少音乐版权的控制权 还有属不清官司 他会在监狱
里失去所有 会让他手中的音乐版权给到钱尼手上
DCFS finds nothing. Sneddon still continues. Feb 2003 Gavin saying nothing
happened. June 2003 Gavin saying he was molested after Feb 2003 interview.
儿童福利机构调查找不出什麽 TS一直狂追 03年二月Gavin说啥事都没发生 但六月又说
在那之後他被性侵害
Michael tells Jermaine he doesn't feel secure. NOI as security. Randy working
as Michael's right hand man. Hiring Tom Mesereau. T-Mez giving them
assurance. Jordie refusing to testify and not talking to his parents for 11
years for making him lie. Trial. Family support. Testimony. Lies. T-Mez
proving his points.
MJ跟JJ说他觉得很不安 伊斯兰禁卫军变MJ的护卫 Randy变成MJ的左右手 雇用了
Tom Mesereau 律师跟他们保证 Jordie拒绝作证 而且已经十一年没跟父母讲话 因为他们
逼他说谎 家人支持MJ 讲到证词 谎言....
Trial affecting Michael's finances. Sony/ATV loan 272M, lost 100M due to not
touring for Invincible. $23M loan on Neverland. $1M a month to run Neverland.
Catalogue bringing $25M a year. Jermaine goes to Bahrain to do a deal to ease
Michael's financial situation. Prince Abdullah, not only music but theme
parks,hotels, movies etc as well. Two Seas contact Prince Abdullah, Jermaine
and Michael 33.3 share each.
那场官司严重引响MJ财务状况 SONY/ATV借贷了两亿七千万 因为没去万夫莫敌巡回损失
一亿 梦幻庄园借贷两千三百万 维持梦幻庄园每个月要一百万 音乐版权每年收入有两千
五百万 JJ去了巴林去谈个合约来缓解MJ财务问题 巴林王子提出不只音乐 还有主题乐园
旅馆等方案 说MJ JJ和王子各1/3
Back to trial. Michael going to restroom during testimony. Waiting for
verdicts. Going to court to hear the verdicts. Rebbie reading the Bible all
the way to the courthouse. Not enough seats. Jermaine and Janet in a room
waiting. they can't see or hear the courtroom. They hear a cheer from
outside. They find a window to look outside and see a woman releasing white
doves. They go to meet rest of the family.
讲到审判 MJ在证词间去厕所 等待宣判 去了法庭听结果 Rebbie一路都在念圣经 法庭
没有足够的座位 JJ和珍纳在外面等 他们看不到也听不到 他们听到外面有欢呼 找了窗户
看到有女人再放出白鸽 他们在外面等着见其他家人
"Michael wasn’t smiling, like everyone else: he looked stunned, and we just
kept walking. There was no time for hugs. We could do all that back at
Neverland."
大家都在笑 除了MJ 他看起来麻木了 我们只是一直往前走 没有时间来拥抱 一切可以
等到回梦幻庄园
to be continued
2 more chapters to go.. the next chapter jumps to 2008 (from mid 2005)
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在一个充满仇恨的世界 我们仍须勇於希望 在一个充满愤怒的世界 我们仍须勇於安慰
在一个充满绝望的世界 我们仍须勇於梦想 在一个充满猜忌的世界 我们仍须勇於相信
---------------by 麦克杰克森
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1F:推 Sevorlaga: 【你PO的文章我超爱看 !】 09/16 23:53
2F:推 Mr7:还好睡过头躲过911@@ 09/16 23:53
3F:推 ChesterB:怎麽会有母带这种问题?不是合约都该写清楚? 话说J家一堆 09/17 09:00
4F:→ ChesterB:言论根本都在帮Murray吧= = 忘记毯毯还蛮搞笑的XD 09/17 09:01
5F:推 u7273:大家都在笑 除了MJ 他看起来麻木了 唉! 09/18 00:25