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标题[情报] Hollywod Tonight的幕後故事
时间Wed Mar 16 01:55:04 2011
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The Story Behind 'Hollywood Tonight'
(14-3-2011) Joe Vogel, music critic and author of the upcoming book, 'Man in
the Music: The Creative Life and Work of Michael Jackson,' has written an
article on the journey of the song 'Hollywood Tonight.' It tells the story of
both the new video and, more interestingly, the evolution of the song itself.
The article was posted on the Huffington Post website and you can read it
below.
之前写过hold my hand和新专辑乐评的人又来啦 他不久後会有一个新书 关於MJ如何创作
音乐的 现在他又写了一篇文章是关於新单曲hollywood tonight 告诉我们新MV还有这首歌
进化的过程 文章如下
Michael Jackson was so impressed with dancer, Sofia Boutella -- star of
the late icon's new music video for "Hollywood Tonight" -- he was ready to
offer her the opportunity of a lifetime: the chance to dance alongside him on
his This Is It concert series at the O2 Arena in London. Unfortunately, she
was still under contract for Madonna's Confessions Tour at the time and
couldn't get out of it. Seeing how disappointed Boutella was, Jackson turned
to a couple of his collaborators and said: "I used to date Madonna. I should
call her."
MJ非常欣赏Sofia Boutella 他本来要请她参加TII的演出 但不幸的已经跟玛丹娜有合同
是娜姐演唱会的dancer MJ看到她很失望 还曾跟几个合作者说 我跟娜姐以前约过会 或许
我该打个电话给她 XD
While Boutella ultimately missed out on This Is It, she pays admirable
homage to the King of Pop in his most recent posthumous video, which paints
the story of a young, ambitious girl trying to make it in Hollywood without
being swallowed by its trappings and illusions. It's a well-worn tale, but is
carried out tastefully by director, Wayne Isham, and sparked by the
infectious energy and talent of Boutella. The video also reminds -- along
with recent MJ tributes on American Idol and Glee -- how profound Jackson's
influence continues to be on new generations (many of whom only "discovered"
him after his tragic death in 2009).
虽然最终她无法参加TII 她出现在了新的MV 故事写着一个年轻有野心的女孩去好莱屋打拼
而不要被假象所吞噬 这个MV也让人想起最近美国偶像和Glee的致敬 MJ对於新一代的影响
(很多人是在他悲剧的过世才发现他)
"Hollywood Tonight" is the second single to be released from Jackson's
posthumous album, MICHAEL ("Behind the Mask" is the alternate single for
several countries, including the United States).
这首歌是第二支单曲 behind the mask是某些国家的替代单曲 包括美国
The song has a long and winding history. Jackson first put down a sketch
of the lyrics in 1999 while staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Soon after,
he began working out the music with longtime friend and collaborator, Brad
Buxer (who co-wrote the song). The song traveled with them from Los Angeles
to New York, Miami to Neverland, during the early Invincible sessions.
Jackson and Buxer were pumping out some outstanding material around this
time, including songs like "Beautiful Girl," "The Way You Love Me,"
"Speechless," "The Lost Children," "Shut Up and Dance" (a great dance track
Jackson and Buxer worked on with Michael Prince and Eric Kirkland with echoes
of Stevie Wonder and MJ circa Bad which, unfortunately, doesn't have complete
vocals) and "I Was the Loser" (a nice, melodic mid-tempo tune about lost love
that is mostly finished), among others. A couple of years earlier Jackson and
Buxer had also worked on artistic standouts like "Morphine" and "In the Back."
这首歌有个很长的故事 MJ第一次写出这首歌词的草稿是在99年的比佛利饭店 不久他开始
和长期的合作者Brad Buxer合写音乐 这首歌跟着他们从LA到纽约到迈阿密到梦幻庄园
是在万夫莫敌的早期 同时他们也合作了很多首歌 像是beautiful girl, the way you
love me, speechless, the lost children, shut up and dance(这首很不幸 歌声没有
完成) 还有I was the loser(是手很棒的中慢板 讲到逝去的爱 几乎已经完成) 还有很多
首其他歌曲 在这之前Brad曾跟MJ合写过Morphine和In the Back
Jackson loved parts of "Hollywood" -- the opening Gregorian chant (his
idea), the "westbound, greyhound" harmonies, the whistling in the outro --
but stopped working on it once producer Rodney Jerkins came on board for
Invincible.
MJ很爱的部份包括开头的歌德式吟唱(这是他的点子) 还有west bound, grey hound的合声
还有结尾的口哨 但他在Rodney Jerkins加入万夫莫敌後就没再继续做这首歌
Over the next ten years, however, he returned to the track numerous
times. For the bass line, he was searching for something similar to "Billie
Jean," but distinct. "Do smooth muted bass on 'Hollywood,'" he indicated in
one note. His early demos feature two layered bass lines (Michael Prince
added the "Billie Jean"-esque kick and snare in the last mix MJ requested).
Jackson and Brad Buxer continued tinkering with it in Las Vegas in 2007. For
a while, he liked the idea of ending with the sound of a bus leaving or
arriving. Yet he ultimately decided to conclude with the whistling, since the
juxtaposition was a bit awkward.
在接下来十年 他时不时有回去修改这首歌 像是贝斯 他想要类似Billie Jean的 但要完全
不同 他在一张纸条里写 "Do Smooth muted bass 在这首歌里" 他早期的demo有两层Bass
Michael Prince在MJ的要求之下在这首歌里加了Billie Jean的一部份 那是最後的一个混
音版 在07年时MJ和Brad 还是在研究这首歌 有一阵子他想要在结尾用上巴士离开或抵达
的声音 但是他最後决定还是用口哨
In October 2008, Jackson, now living in Los Angeles, asked recording
engineer Michael Prince to put the latest mix of "Hollywood" on CD so he
could listen to it and see what might be improved. Sadly, he never got around
to working on it again.
2008年十月 MJ住在LA 要求Michael Prince把最後的混音版放到CD上 让他可以再听一次
看有没有什麽地方要修改 很不幸的 他从没有机会再做任何更动
The new single of "Hollywood" is truer to this last version than the
album cut. Of course, Jackson had intended to keep working on it, which is
why his estate and Sony originally brought in two of Jackson's close
collaborators, Theron Feemster (aka Neff-U) and Teddy Riley, to try to finish
it. Feemster had the first crack and came up with some solid mixes; yet Sony
didn't feel it was quite right and subsequently gave Teddy Riley a shot.
Riley's production, which retained much of Michael and Brad's demo (including
the intro and outro), elements of Feemster's mix (including the fantastically
funky guitar riff and horns), and added a bit more punch, became the album
version.
最新的这支单曲 其实比专辑版更接近MJ的听过的最後版本 当然MJ还想要再做更动
所以SONY和遗产公司找来了MJ过去的合作者Neff-U和Teddy Riley想办法完成 Neff-U的
版本SONY觉得不够好所以给了Teddy Riley一个机会 TR的版本保留了大部分MJ最後版本
的部份 包括开头和结尾 也包含了Neff-U的混音(比较放克的吉他和喇叭声) 改的比较有
力 这就成了专辑版
After it was released, however, many fans voiced concerns about a) the
over-processed vocals, and b) the lengthy spoken bridge. Jackson had, in
fact, written lyrics for his own bridge, which were much darker than Riley's.
Jackson's bridge reads:
在发行後 却很多歌迷认为 第一歌声制作太过 第二中间讲话的桥段太长 事实上MJ自己有
写了中间桥段的歌词 比TR後来的歌词还要黑暗
She doesn't even have a ticket
她没有车票
She doesn't even have a way back home
她无法回家
She's lost and she's alone
她迷路了而且很孤单
There's no place for her to go
她无处可去
She is young and she is cold
她很年轻和冷艳
Just like her father told her so
就像她爸爸告诉她的
While Jackson's version highlights the tragedy and uncertainty of a dream
deferred, Teddy Riley's bridge opted for a more positive and tidy resolution.
"With the bridge we kind of made her succeed," Riley explained. "[She]
completed her mission."
MJ的歌词写的悲剧和梦想的不确定 但TR的改写变的比较正面 TR解释他的版本暗示的是
这个女孩最後成功了
Riley would have undoubtedly used Jackson's version had their been vocals
for it. Unfortunately, they were never recorded. With the new single,
however, Sony decided to cut the spoken part completely and showcase instead
some of the heightening drama and tension Jackson intended for this section.
They used his beatboxing, his idea of swelling horns and strings, and his
operatic vocal (pulled from a tape left running during a recording session in
a hotel room). In addition to the bridge, the vocals on the new single are
left un-processed and the production is scaled back. The result is a single
that has a rawer, funkier, but less finished feel than the album version.
TR毫无疑虑绝对会使用MJ讲话的版本 但很不幸的MJ从没录过这部份 新的单曲SONY决定
口白的部分剪掉 而这些本来是MJ用来建造戏剧性和紧张感的 他们使用了他的beatboxing
他用喇叭和弦乐的点子 还有歌剧的部份(从旅馆里录音的带子拿出来的) 除了口白被拿掉
新单曲的歌声部份还原成没制作过的 而结果就是这个版本变的比较原始 比较放克
但比专辑版本没有完成的感觉
"Hollywood Tonight," then, has gone through many incarnations: the
several different demos Jackson recorded with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince,
from 1999 to 2008; the two versions Theron Feemster worked on following
Jackson's death (one of which is reportedly quite impressive); the polished
album version completed by Teddy Riley; and, of course, the new single. All
are necessarily approximations to what Jackson would have ultimately put out
in finished form. That's the nature of posthumous releases. They will always
be imperfect and they will always generate fierce debate.
这首歌经过很多大改造 MJ和Brad和Michael Prince从98-08年多种的样带 Neff-U两种
不同的版本 (其中一个版本据说很令人惊叹) 还有TR最终的修饰专辑版 当然最後还有
新单曲版 全部都有可能是接近MJ最後自己想要的版 这就是死後专辑的问题 他们永远不
完美 永远会有很多质疑
But for most music lovers, we will take whatever new Michael Jackson we
can get, whether demos, new mixes or remixes. "Hollywood Tonight" could be
gathering dust in a vault; instead, it has people dancing in the streets.
但对喜爱音乐的人来说 我们会想办法听MJ所有的音乐 各种样带 各种新混音
这首歌本来可能尘封在歌曲库里 但现在有人在街上听着这首歌跳舞
Source: MJFC / huffingtonpost.com
个人是觉得sony拿不定主意在那边改来改去 歌迷讲了就再改一个版本实在没魄力耶
怎麽不乾脆就专辑版之外 MJ最後听过的最终Demo版也放出来当bonus不就好了吗
改再多遍都一定会有人不满意的啦 改到最後都变四不像了
改到後来既不是原始版DEMO 也不像是完成版的歌曲 这样半调子是怎样= =
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※ 编辑: oldtrafford 来自: 130.85.56.84 (03/16 02:12)
1F:推 ChesterB:推好文 个人喜欢专辑版大於MV版 SONY真是不乾脆 03/16 11:54
2F:推 hcshin:话说单曲CD什麽时候要出? 最好可以收录多一点版本 包含demo 03/16 13:28
3F:推 Mr7:包涵demo+1 03/16 17:59
4F:推 u7273:demo+1 03/17 01:41
5F:推 sfzerox:这首我很喜欢 03/17 23:52
6F:推 kimlin:多谢分享!! 03/21 19:45