作者mywu (吴嘉)
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标题[新闻] 丛林法则制作人因部分夸大道歉
时间Sat Feb 16 17:35:04 2013
以下3则报导皆来自英文网站,仅提供全部或部分翻译,照片详见以下网址:
来源1:
http://tinyurl.com/combjq9
Producers of SBS The Laws of the Jungle acknowledged and apologized for the
exaggerations they had used on the show.
SBS丛林法则制作人承认节目中夸大部分并为此道歉.
Producers Yoo Yoon Jae and Jung Joon Ki, who directed the Amazon and Siberia
episodes, posted a long, apologetical explanation on the official website of
the show on February 13.
负责制作亚马逊跟西伯利亚特集的两位制作人在2/13日於官方网站上发表抱歉且长的解释.
PD Yoo Yoon Jae, who helmed the Amazon episodes, started off with an apology,
saying, "I′m very sorry that we troubled viewers who have loved The Laws of
the Jungle."
负责制作亚马逊特集的Yoo Yoon Jae制作人开头以"我对喜爱丛林法则的观众致上深深的
歉意."
He then added, "We should have explained everything in the show, but we didn′
t. We believe the way we exaggerated some facts somewhat may have come from
the producers′ excessive wishes to make them look more interesting in a
variety show."
他补充,"我们应该要解释节目上所有的事情,但是我们没有.我们认为制作人过度希望让
实际发生的事情在综艺节目里看起来更加有趣而渲染它们."
About the controversy surrounding the tribes, he said, "The Waorani can be
divided into about three types based on their levels of modernization.
Because The Laws of the Jungle isn′t simply about experiencing the area, but
about surviving in poor circumstances, we ruled out type 1, which lives in
the city or areas surrounding the city."
有关围绕部落的争议,他说"Waorani可以因为其现代化的影响而分成3类.因为丛林的法则
要表达的不只单单是到此地区的经历,而是跟在穷乏的环境下生存有关,所以我们舍弃了住
在城市里或附近的第一类部落."
He said type 3, the type less affected by modernization, was then ruled out
due to safety issues and because it would be hard to ask the tribe to
cooperate.
他说第三类的部落,虽然被现代化影响最少也因为安全因素或是合作上有困难度而被排除.
On accusations that the show was filmed in a Waorani village easily
accessible by tourists, he said, "We approached the Waorani through the
Equador government when we surveyed the area beforehand, and learned that
there are tribe villages that have become tourist attractions. We were sad at
how a tribe, which could previously live off of the natural environment, had
been led to become a tourist attraction now. There are many tourist courses
that go through the Equador Amazon, but the Waorani that appear in our Amazon
episodes have nothing to do with them."
对於节目是在游客容易到达的部落拍摄的指控,制作人指出,"在前期访查,我们是透过
Equador政府而跟Waorani部落交涉,进一步了解到部分部落已经沦落为观光景点.
我们为其状况而感到悲伤. 很多观光行程有安排到Equador亚马逊没错,但是出现在我们
节目的Waorani部落跟这些行程没有关联."
He did acknowledge, however, that a tribe member named Pedro, who had been
set at the center of another controversy, wasn′t who they thought he was.
他也坦承部落成员Pedro并非当初他们所想的样子.
"We checked with the local coordinator on whether Pedro, who appeared as the
groom in a Waorani wedding, works as a guide in a national park and already
has a wife and child. We found that he does indeed work as a manager in a
national park. We haven′t, however, been able to confirm whether he has a
wife and child. If he is indeed a married man, this [controversy] is entirely
the fault of the producers," he said.
"我们跟当地负责人确认在Waorani婚礼中的新郎Pedro是否为国家公园的向导,且早已有
妻子跟小孩.得到的答覆为他的确在国家公园中当经理,然而我们无法得知他是否有小孩跟
妻子.如果他真的已经结婚了,那麽这项争议完全都是制作人的错误."
He finished, "We apologize again if there were scenes that made viewers feel
uncomfortable due to mistakes or ill preparations on our part. We have been
finding out how reckless it is to produce a real variety show without
incident. We believe the producers and the cast all did their best. We
promise we′ll make a clean show with no exaggerations or misunderstandings
in filming or editing."
最後他说,"我们再次为那些会让观众感到不舒服的错误/准备不善的视频道歉.我们了解
没有任何安排而制作实境秀是多麽鲁莽(这句还漫难翻译的,可能有更好的说法).
我们认为节目成员跟制作人都尽力了.我们保证之後会带来乾净没有夸大或误导的剪接跟摄
影."
来源2:
http://tinyurl.com/av7m2sn
The show then released an official statement stating the the show’s goal was
to show places that hadn’t been touched by urbanized human hands before.
节目发表官方声明指出丛林的法则最终目的是展示那些尚未被都市化人们碰触的地方.
The show depicted various moments where the cast were in danger, or they were
having an incredibly hard time traversing through dangerous terrain. It
always emphasized to viewers that every situation was 100% real.
在节目中好几次都可看到成员遭遇危险或是因要渡过困难的地形而吃苦.它总是对观众强调
各种情况都是百分百的真实.
However, a little research showed that most of the show was false. In the
Vanuatu series, the cast and crew went to Mount Yasur, the Millennium Cave,
and the Blue Hole. The show emphasized multiple times that no human had been
there before, and that the crew was making their own way through. Kim Byung
Man led the rest of his team through a makeshift road he ‘made’ himself,
and told them to be careful of the falling rocks from above.
但是小小的调查可以发现大部分的节目都是假的.在Vanuatu部分,成员跟幕後人员去了
Yasur山,千禧洞跟蓝孔.节目强调很多次这些地方从来没有人来过且成员们靠自己的力
量到达.金秉万先生带着其他的人走他开出的栈道,提醒大家小心落石.
However, netizens found proof that Mount Yasur was actually a tourist
location where even children and the elderly can stroll up in less than 30
minutes. To confirm the accusations, media outlet Dispatch called a tourism
company in Vanuatu, who confirmed that there was indeed a tour package, and
said the location was completely safe, saying, “Tour guides will tell you
when it’s safe to go. No one has been hurt. If there are falling rocks, you
will have to wait. Four wheel drive vehicles can go up to the Mount Yasur
volcano and then you will have tour guides who will carry the camera for you
at the top. The cars belong to the tour guide“.
然而,网友发现Yasur山其实是个观光景点,小孩跟老人都可以在30分钟内爬上山.为了证明
指控,媒体派遣人员致电给Vanuatu观光公司得到认证. 那里的确有个观光行程且地点是很
安全的."导游会告诉你什麽时候可以安全上山.没有人受伤过.如果有落石的话,就必须
要等.四轮传动的车可以开上Yasur火山,然後会有导游带着相机让你在顶部拍照,车子是属
於观光公司的."
The show repeatedly emphasized that various places hadn’t been visited
before by other humans, that this was the first time anyone was walking along
the wilderness, and that every step was difficult and dangerous. Most of the
places turned out to be 30 minute tourism courses that had been visited an
uncountable number of times before.
节目多次强调很多地方都无人到达,且这是第一次有人来临,每一项目都危险艰难.但事实是
多数的地方都是30分钟的旅游行程,且被无数人参观过.
The cast has visited Siberia, Vanuatu, Amazon,
Nambia, Papua New Guinea, and New Zealand so far. However, it takes simple
research to find out that nearly everything they found were tour packages.
Even meeting the native tribes is included in part of a tour.
成员目前已拜访西伯利亚,亚马逊,纽西兰,Vanuatu,Nambia跟Papua New Guina.简单的搜
寻便可发现所有拍摄都可在旅游行程被找到,甚至连拜访部落也是行程的一部分.
Merely typing in the most recent ‘Waorani Tribe’ of the Amazon shows an
immense number of hits for tourist packages, Facebook accounts managed by the
tribe along with photos and videos of the experience. Some of the tour
packages almost an exact match with the steps that the program took.
仅仅搜寻"亚马逊Waorani部落"便可得到众多的观光行程包裹.由部落所管理的脸书显示了
行程的照片跟影片.有些行程跟节目参观的地点跟日程几乎完全符合.
In the end, everything could be bought with money. Various tourist companies
that Dispatch contacted confirmed that even various traditional ceremonies
could be faked by the tribes. On the Amazon experience, one tourist company
said, “We have to contact the Waorani Tribe on how much for them to act it
out. If you pay 600 USD per person, up to 16 people can attend. If you are
interested, we will connect you with the Waorani Tribe.” Other tourist
companies confirmed that they had Vanuatu and Siberia tour packages that had
almost the same exact itinerary as the show.
最终来说,任何东西都可以用钱买到.很多公司告诉派遣人员甚至传统仪式也可以让部落人
们假装举行.以亚马逊来说,一个观光公司告诉我们他们可以联络Waorani部落如果要
让他们表演要花多少钱. 如果你付每人600美金,最多16个人可以参加这些仪式."
There were other proof that much of the show was staged.In Vanuatu, one of the tribe members stated to the
camera that it was the first time that an outsider had visited their village.
However, previous photos showed the exact tribe member posing with various
other tourists in the village, and it turned out to be merely a part of the
tourism package. The local natives that they met are so familiar with
civilization that they go shopping at supermarkets, contrary to how the show
portrayed them.
还有其他证明大部分的节目是事先设定好的.在Vanuatu,其中一个镜头说这是第一次这个
部落有外人到来.然後先前的照片显示同样的部落成员跟其他观光客拍照,而这只是旅游行
程的一部分.当地的原着民对於现代的东西不但非常的了解,你可以看到他们去超级市场买
东西,跟节目显示的有所误差.
(见网址看照片
http://tinyurl.com/av7m2sn
http://tinyurl.com/cxj6wk2)
外电报导3:
http://tinyurl.com/cxj6wk2
One netizen commented while posting more evidence of fabrication, "It′s hard
just to be short on food and water to wash in while traveling a foreign
country; I don′t know why they chose to exaggerate so much. I′m worried the
exaggeration of the producers will undermine the significance of [ZE:A] Kwang
Hee′s abandonment, Ryu Dam′s dehydration and the collapse of [Kim] Byung
Man."
其中一个网友在发表造假的证据时也做了评论,"在食物跟水短少的情况下还在国外旅行
就已经够困难的,我不知道为什麽节目选择作出如此多的夸大.因为制作人的夸大,我担心
光熙放弃的宣言,柳丹失水状况还有金秉万病倒的辛苦都会被破坏殆尽."
Many others have leapt to defend the producers and the program, saying that
some dramatic exaggerations are inevitable as it is a variety show.
其他也跳出来护卫制作人跟节目,认为在综艺节目里,戏剧化的跨大是没有办法的.
They also asserted that there′s no need to include the fact that the tribes
know how to get along with civilization.
他们也说没有必要包括这些部落是如何跟现代社会化接轨的.
One netizen commented, "You can′t conclude everything was fabricated based
on just a few facts when you haven′t even traveled there yourself. It is
true that the members and the producers suffered, so you can′t really say
the show wasn′t real."
其中一个网友说,"你不能因为一些事实就说所有事情都是造假的,尤其是当你自己没有亲身
经历过.成员跟随队人员都很辛苦,吃苦是真实的,所以你并不能说这个节目不真实."
感想:就算很多都有观光行程好了,如果没有这个节目的话,我们是不会知道的.就算报导出
来了,我想我还是会继续看下去..
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※ 编辑: mywu 来自: 70.79.74.78 (02/16 17:55)
1F:推 ne3zoders:我很喜欢这节目 尤其是每期到一个新地方 那种陌生感 02/16 18:17
2F:→ ne3zoders:都让我觉得很有趣 可是几乎每期後面都会去某部落 02/16 18:18
3F:→ ne3zoders:那时候我就会觉得很无聊 因为设定感实在太重了 02/16 18:18
4F:→ ne3zoders:所以我都很难看到最後面...="= 02/16 18:19
5F:推 akicrave:作假新闻出来以後,突然觉得没有点开的兴趣了 02/16 18:48
6F:推 zooeybones:我之前有稍微看一下光熙放弃那集 光熙放弃之後 02/16 19:01
7F:→ zooeybones:跑到工作人员的帐篷那边去 怎麽看那里都没有那麽惨 02/16 19:01
8F:→ zooeybones:就像一般的露营区而已 那时候就觉得艺人很衰小 02/16 19:02
9F:→ zooeybones:虽然规定很多 但我也不相信只有那麽一点水可以喝 02/16 19:03
10F:→ zooeybones:因为他们除了搞个叶子集水 就没有再弄水的东西了 02/16 19:03
11F:→ ronale:过犹不及吧...有时候韩综会作效果越作越夸张 02/16 19:04
12F:→ zooeybones:太阳那麽大 人体蒸发水分流汗甚麽 怎麽可能喝一点点 02/16 19:05
13F:→ zooeybones:我觉得节目应该就是会安排一些梗 假装是艺人要求挑战 02/16 19:05
14F:→ zooeybones:但是最後可能虎头蛇尾掉了 这种梗应该也不少 02/16 19:06
15F:→ mywu:虽然说看到世界有人有着截然不同的生活方式很好,我必须承认跟 02/16 19:50
16F:→ mywu:部落交流是里头我不太喜欢的段落,应该是说节目安排的方式让我 02/16 19:52
17F:→ mywu:不爱,虽然说是好意帮忙赠送制作东西给他们,可是实用性多少? 02/16 19:54
18F:→ mywu:我之前有看过西方的节目是帮餐厅改头换面让生意变好,可是後来 02/16 19:54
19F:推 akicrave:我好像部落交流部份也都会跳过,感觉太刻意 02/16 19:55
20F:→ mywu:有人出来爆料说因为时间不够,很多东西都是半成品,表面看起来 02/16 19:55
21F:→ mywu:可以,可是实用性不大,反而还给後来店家造成麻烦带来困扰 02/16 19:56
22F:→ mywu:我喜欢的部分反而还是成员自给自足,去看天然景观的部分 02/16 19:59
23F:推 rubygogogo:这也是他们过度爱国的民族性造成的结果吧 02/16 20:27
24F:推 rubygogogo:不择手段地用各种方式渲染韩国人有多?厉害和强大 02/16 20:29
25F:推 amig0123:颇为失望 02/16 20:50
26F:推 yileng:如果是观光节目就不会有争议了.. 02/16 22:00
27F:→ hahaha613:看过几集 就当看分手擂台的心态看就还不错 02/16 23:26
28F:推 SHOW1113:部落桥段一看就很假~但艺人们还是很辛苦 02/16 23:49
29F:→ freeunixer:讲到原始部落去搞些有的没的事,问日本人好了... 02/17 04:27
30F:→ freeunixer:日本的电视节目表示: 02/17 04:27
31F:推 badin20:原来不只我不喜欢看和部落相处的部份阿...最近突然有点腻 02/17 10:25
32F:推 wommow:我也不喜欢看部落部分 总觉得有些桥段有点刻意 索性跳过 02/17 10:59
33F:推 yileng:还好去年没给丛林法则演艺大赏..不然现在SBS脸面要放到哪里 02/17 10:59
34F:→ yileng:去..辛苦的还是艺人~ 02/17 11:00
35F:推 akicrave:其实早就有发现工作人员都过得还可以,只有成员很累 02/17 13:07
36F:推 akicrave:觉得是为了要维持一定程度的安全也无妨,但抓动物演巧遇 02/17 13:09
37F:推 akicrave:就讨厌了,作假对标榜真实的丛林生存节目很伤 02/17 13:11
38F:→ Athletics:不知朴宝英会不会被黑掉... 02/17 15:55
39F:推 zoe2481:最委屈的就是族长了!不管制作组设定了多少,族长亲自动手的 02/17 18:38
40F:→ zoe2481:部份包括盖房子,狩猎,处理食材,捕鱼等,我都相信是他人生 02/17 18:41
41F:推 zoe2481:经验累积而得来的,现在却都被一句做假而成为攻击的目标了 02/17 18:45
42F:推 akicrave:并不怀疑族长的求生技能,那些技术是这个节目的最大看点 02/17 20:45
43F:推 hikat:虽然可能有些作假,但是这应该多少都是可以接受的吧!难道你 03/03 11:27
44F:→ hikat:要的是百分百真实,但是因为节目而出事吗?这样还可以看吗? 03/03 11:27
45F:→ hikat:节目那有不作假的咧,我喜欢看,是因为他们内心交流的情感, 03/03 11:27
46F:→ hikat:很困苦还要努力抓食物的过程吧! 03/03 11:27