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Jeremy Lin is a role player, and that's OK Lin是个角色球员,其实这也不错! http://goo.gl/Rhg80V 【文长,看到篇关於林的定位的外絮,觉得不错,在此翻译分享,若有任何错误或需要更 正的地方请不吝指教!】 Jeremy Lin exploded on Monday night, scoring 29 points in 31 minutes to lead the Charlotte Hornets all the way back from a seven-point first quarter and a 23-point deficit to stun a San Antonio Spurs team just two nights removed from beating the defending NBA champion Golden State Warriors. He made 11 of his 18 shots, including all four of his 3-point tries, and poured in 15 in the fourth quarter alone, nearly outscoring Gregg Popovich's crew by himself in the final 12 minutes. He was amazing in a fashion that reminded viewers of the 2012 breakthrough that made "Linsanity" a household term; it was really cool to watch. 林前晚爆炸性的演出,上场31分钟得了29分并带领球队从首节只得7分、落後23分的困境 中逆势击败上一场才打败联盟冠军勇士队的马刺。包括三分线4次出手全进,全场出手18中 11、在决胜第四节灌进15分,在比赛最後12分钟几乎是靠他从波波手上扳回一城。让人不 禁回想起「Linsanity」这个单字,真的挺酷的! Here's what I wrote when I shared the post I wrote about Lin's performance and Charlotte's win on the Ball Don't Lie Facebook page: "Jeremy Lin has settled into life as a role player, but on Monday night, the Charlotte Hornets needed him to play like a star to author a historic comeback against the San Antonio Spurs ... and he did just that." That teaser copy prompted a rebuke from a commenter who called it a "very stupid statement" to suggest that Lin has "settled into life as a role player," arguing that the former Warriors, New York Knicks, Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers guard remains one of the league's most effective pick-and-roll operators, and that he has played at an All-Star level when he's gotten the opportunity to take over for Kemba Walker and dominate the ball for Steve Clifford's club. 在此之前笔者在脸书上发表「林被定位成角色球员,但这晚,黄蜂队希望他能打得像 明星球员去完成对马刺对历史级的逆转胜,而他做到了。」时,有位乡民很快的也贴上了 之前一位评论家的意见:「把林定位成角色球员是很愚蠢的!」,并且质疑勇士尼克火箭 湖人没有留下联盟顶尖的档拆执行者,而让林抓住了机会去Clifford旗下以全明星的层级 辅佐天行者。 Here's the thing, though: Both of those statements can be true. We don't have to view the term "role player" as an insult. 是这样的,两种定位都可能是真的,但也不用把被定位成「角色球员」当作是一种耻辱。 Lin's overall production for the Hornets this season doesn't necessarily leap off the page. He's averaging about 12 points, three rebounds and three assists in 26 minutes per game, posting his worst shooting percentage since his 2012 breakout and making a subpar 33.5 percent of his 3s, and assisting on a lower share of his teammates' shots than ever. He's been closer to average than elite in the pick-and-roll, ranking 60th in points per possession among 112 players who have finished at least 100 plays as a screen-game ball-handler, according to Synergy Sports Technology's game-charting data. In some respects, he's having a pretty similar season to the one that went largely unremarked upon last year in Los Angeles. 林目前在黄蜂的成绩可能还没有非常亮眼,26分钟内场均约12分3篮板3助攻,但是三分命 中率33.5%却是从他成名以来最低的成绩、助攻也比以往来的少。另一方面据报导,他的挡 拆成绩算是接近前段班的,在112名起码完成100次挡拆且球队有得分的控球者中排名第60 位。在某些方面表现得跟上季在湖人阵中差不多。 A lot of that's due to the context in which he's playing, though. Lin's working off the ball more than he has in his NBA career, spending nearly two-thirds of his minutes at shooting guard, according to Basketball-Reference.com's positional breakdowns. Lin has spent the bulk of that off-guard time — 1,004 of his 1,737 total minutes this season — alongside Walker, giving Clifford a backcourt in which both guards can handle the ball, run pick-and-roll, get to the basket, space the floor, create off the bounce and get to the foul line. 很大方面是因为他的比赛方式,据统计,本季林空手的时间比生涯平均高、场上几乎有三 分之二的时间处於没有持球的得分後卫模式(1004/1737分钟)。让教练可以安排他搭配天 行者一同在场上处理球、跑档拆、切入、清出空间、急停出手、站上罚球线。 The results have been damn good, with Charlotte's offense humming a tick above its season average in Walker-Lin minutes (104.6 points per 100 possessions, compared to to 104.3 points-per-100) while outscoring opponents by a strong 4.7-per-100, equivalent to the Toronto Raptors' fifth-best-in-the-NBA full-season net rating. In those minutes, though, Walker's the clear primary operator. 结果真是他X的好!他们两同时在场时黄蜂每100次球权可以得104.6分(球队平均104.3分) ,每100次球权比对手多4.7分,跟目前战绩排名第五的多伦多暴龙差不多。不过,两人同 时在场时,大多是由天行者处理球权。 The UConn product has commandeered 225 more plays than Lin in their shared minutes and finished nearly 28 percent of Charlotte's possessions with a field-goal attempt, foul drawn or turnover committed, compared to a "usage rate" of just over 19 percent for Lin, according to NBAwowy.com. While roles can shift and evolve over the course of a possession, by and large, in that alignment, Kemba's the point man and Jeremy's working the wing. When Lin's on the floor without Walker, though, that's when he gets more of an opportunity to create ... and, by and large, he's done quite a bit with it. 天行者在两人一起在场上时的出手、站上罚球线和失误收尾比林多了225次,以百分比来 看是28%比19%。大致来说,天行者是球队重点而林是在旁协助。当只有林在场时,他才有 更多机会创造发挥。 His usage rate spikes to 27.2 percent, according to NBAwowy, and he averages about 3 1/2 more field-goal attempts and two more 3-point tries per 36 minutes of non-Kemba floor time, per NBA.com's stat tool. His field-goal and 3-point accuracy have jumped by about 4 percent when he's running the show, and his statistical production — 19.2 points, 5.2 assists and 4.3 rebounds per-36 without Walker — would put him in pretty impressive company. Only 11 players this season are averaging at least 19-5-4 per-36, including All-Stars Stephen Curry, Russell Westbrook, Kyle Lowry, LeBron James, Chris Paul, James Harden, John Wall and Dwyane Wade. 据统计,天行者不在场时,林每40分钟的进攻回合(usage rate)是27.2%、每36分钟多3.5 次出手、2次的三分线出手,两分和三分的命中率多4%。如果是用另一个统计数据来看更惊 人,天行者不在场上时林每36分钟的数据是19.2分5.2助攻4.3篮板,联盟当中只有11个全 明星有这样的身手包括Curry、西河、罗莉、姆斯、船长、哈登、墙哥和Wade。 One of those 11, though, is Walker, who has largely carried Charlotte's offense since the All-Star break and who, by just about any objective measure, has been the more productive player this season. The prioritization of Walker over Lin in the Hornets' structure is not a misappropriation of resources; it's an earned hierarchy, entirely justified by what the two players have done on the court this season. 11个当中还有一个是天行者,明星赛後他带领黄蜂的进攻端并且在这季成为一个非常有效 率的球员。黄蜂以天行者为优先考量,纯粹只是以他们两人本季在场上的表现做出抉择。 And that's no slam on Lin, whose ability to act as a source of instant offense off the pine will likely earn him some Sixth Man of the Year consideration. If anything, it only highlights the significant step forward Walker has taken as a shooter and overall offensive force, which has been one of the most significant contributing factors to the Hornets' rise from the lottery to a 40-30 mark that has them fighting for home-court advantage in the opening round of the playoffs and hoping to make some noise thereafter. 不过,林本季目前的表现也让他有机会角逐年度最佳第六人。不论如何,天行者本季在进 攻端的优异亮点,的确是让黄蜂从乐透区晋升为目前战绩40胜并且企图在季後赛首轮取得 主场优势的最大因素,也将会在往後吸引更多的关注声音。 What we have, then, is a player who's capable of working within a team concept that doesn't include him being the primary playmaker and offensive focal point, but who can also do damage while running the show against opposing second units and — as he showed on Monday night against the Spurs — who can act as a top gun for stretches when circumstances require it. We have a player who understands his place in the team's pecking order and who contributes within it, who isn't called on to carry the load on a nightly basis but who executes his responsibilities consistently and effectively. That's a role player! There's nothing wrong or dirty about that. 我们现在看到的是,一个在球队一哥在场上时可以从旁协助、需要他发挥时也能具有威胁 性、前晚对马刺当球队需要他表现时他也立即有所回应的球员,也清楚自己在球队的定位 并很称职的扮演好自己的角色,虽然不是每晚都被要求带领球队但是可以持续地有效率地 做出贡献。这就叫做角色球员!这没有甚麽不好的地方! In the context of the Charlotte Hornets, Walker is the top dog, the primary scoring threat and top ball-handler; Nicolas Batum is the jack-of-all-trades secondary scorer and distributor; and everybody else is skating their lane, filling their niche, and looking to give the club whatever it needs on a night-to-night basis. Most of the time, all Charlotte needs from Lin is for him to be part of the larger playmaking and shot-creating whole, and unlike in Houston and L.A., this team and this coach seem to understand how best to maximize his contributions within that specific definition. That he's still capable of getting everything flowing and hanging 29 on the best defense in the league is a wonderful bonus, but it's not something Clifford, general manager Rich Cho and owner Michael Jordan count on. That's what separates stars from role players, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being the latter. 对黄蜂来说,天行者依旧是得分首选,Batum是第二选择,其他人则是视每晚状况针对他们 的功能性发挥作用。跟火箭和湖人不同的是,黄蜂需要林做的事情是和队友一起参予进攻 和创造出手机会的一部分,黄蜂知道怎麽样把林的贡献最大化。林在面对联盟最强马刺防 守下还是用各种手段得了29分,不过这不是教练Clifford、总管Rich Cho和老板乔丹所指 望可以持续的。这就是明星球员与角色球员的不同,但当後者也绝对没有甚麽不好! 心得:个人也认为只要林在黄蜂有稳定表现,就算不是明星级球员也很好阿! --



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※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/Jeremy_Lin/M.1458709812.A.B06.html Sheng1025: 谢谢翻译分享 03/23 13:13
1F:推 wedjkl789: 翻译辛苦推 03/23 13:13
2F:推 kuloda: 人总是要往天花板去迈进 03/23 13:15
3F:推 bhmok: 当打的就这几年 不希望过几年速度慢了回首唏嘘 03/23 13:16
4F:推 ghostxx: 感谢翻译 03/23 13:17
5F:→ casman: 感谢翻译 03/23 13:18
6F:推 Gilbertsky: 推翻译 离开黄蜂这个OK的地方是要冒点风险 看林怎麽想 03/23 13:19
7F:→ Gilbertsky: 林迷一定是希望追求林的能力最大化 黄蜂可以当成退路 03/23 13:21
8F:推 natsuki123: 感谢翻译 03/23 13:23
9F:→ jcchiou: 黄蜂算很会用Lin的 03/23 13:26
10F:推 timocijeng: 最後一句是说能对全联盟防守做强的球队拿 03/23 13:27
11F:→ timocijeng: 下29分 03/23 13:27
12F:→ timocijeng: *最强(指马刺) 03/23 13:27
感谢!原来如此!一直不知道29指的是甚麽!
13F:推 djviva: 感谢翻译, 希望林能一直打的开心 03/23 13:28
※ 编辑: kairiyu (220.136.85.157), 03/23/2016 13:32:27
14F:推 downtoearth: 有谁能说MANU不是个好球员? 当MANU有甚麽不好 03/23 13:33
15F:推 eileen86: 感谢翻译 03/23 13:35
16F:推 bhmok: Manu应该拥有他的战术地位和出手权的 这点林远远不及 03/23 13:40
17F:推 conqueror507: 只要教练不要恶搞Lin,他完全可以离开的,文中也指 03/23 13:41
18F:→ conqueror507: 出Lin有球时,数据跟表现是相当顶级的 03/23 13:41
19F:→ conqueror507: 所以关键还是使用的方法 03/23 13:41
20F:推 deliciou70: 火箭虽然上场时间比较多 但大部分都是在折返跑 03/23 13:49
21F:推 Gilbertsky: 马刺跟其他球队最大的不同是人人都能碰到球 这学不来 03/23 13:52
22F:推 casman: 场外因素也是啊, 在黄蜂有谁叫林领绳过了? 谁欺负过林? 03/23 13:53
23F:推 Gilbertsky: 如果马刺要签林当作鬼秃用场均上20分钟 我100%支持 03/23 13:55
24F:推 lisunlo: 翻译推 03/23 14:18
25F:推 attdave: 前提是POPO还在啊...... 03/23 14:20
26F:推 JerrySloan: Manu是马刺最後一击的球员 Lin只有尼克时期可以这样 03/23 14:29
27F:推 Aquatics: 推 03/23 14:29
28F:推 XD051: 认真问,林今年拿到第六人的机率有多高? 03/23 14:45
29F:推 casman: 接下来的比赛拿七八场20分就有机会 03/23 14:48
30F:推 gm79227922: 不高就是 03/23 14:48
31F:推 Gilbertsky: 最佳第六人可以参考Will Barton的成绩 大约要这个水准 03/23 14:56
32F:推 yoshro: 蹲低是为了跳高 他有好表现自然有人捧银子上门拉人 03/23 14:59
33F:推 kuloda: 有时候看机缘 去年签这约很棒 今年的确是机会比较好的一年 03/23 15:02
34F:→ kuloda: 这约一堆人骂 可是今年後身价会比去年湖人後更容易被认同 03/23 15:03
35F:→ kuloda: 再来今年控卫自由球员不多 但是缺先发跟替补控卫的队变多 03/23 15:04
36F:推 b551122: 谢谢翻译!! 03/23 15:20
37F:推 rod007: 今年Lin给人印象深刻的比赛比在湖人多 03/23 15:30
38F:推 waiting0801: 推推推 03/23 15:53
39F:推 simata: 林打的开心就好:) 03/23 15:57
40F:→ asd250: 还是希望能有球权,全队同心能打进季後赛,来两三个好柱子 03/23 16:16
41F:→ asd250: 跟跳跳人今年空接少到我都快哭了 03/23 16:16
42F:推 zero4: 赞成 03/23 16:24
43F:推 nsmmsn: ! 03/23 16:43
44F:→ BadGame: 说林没有商业价值.. 结果卖票 乔神签的几个中国广告商 03/23 16:46
45F:→ BadGame: 加上.. 赛後还要单独开 见面会... 连客场都要 囧 03/23 16:47
46F:推 handlesome: 推翻译 03/23 17:08
47F:推 stygianX: 不知道有没有窝可在(有LIN)和(没有LIN)的时候的数据比较 03/23 17:20
48F:推 finocoundown: 推 03/23 17:33
49F:推 leehow0621: 推翻译 03/23 17:38
50F:推 boyd1014: 角色:他可以当主角也可以当配角~~赞啦! 03/23 17:39
51F:推 p800917: 推辛苦翻译 03/23 18:25
52F:推 NgJovi: 好文 推推 感谢翻译 03/23 18:43
53F:推 lion500: 去有先发的球队! 03/23 19:18
54F:→ jcchiou: 能打30分钟的球队比较重要吧 03/23 19:37
55F:推 iEisen: 干嘛一定要翻成天行者,走路人也可以啊! 03/23 19:41
56F:推 lion500: 我觉得林还是打控球最能发挥他的天赋,但愿能有当家主控 03/23 20:35
57F:推 balanokia: 当角色球员太浪费传球天赋了 03/23 20:45
58F:推 CC97: 赢马刺时那场lin是以角色球员在打吗?一篇此地无银三百两的文 03/23 20:55
59F:推 sodes72: 谢谢翻译 03/23 20:57
60F:推 CC97: 看完的感觉就是 "对,打赢马剌好棒棒,但别忘了你是角色球员" 03/23 20:59
61F:推 gidapops: 看完文章心得:color 03/23 21:20
62F:→ gidapops: 打铁叫做铁路人 03/23 21:21
63F:推 daisyyeh: 青春有限,希望下季首选能先发的球队,但黄蜂给不了 03/23 21:23
64F:推 CYBERPUNK: manu真的是很特别的存在 我觉得lin虽然还不能跟他比 但 03/23 21:39
65F:→ CYBERPUNK: 他们类似的地方 就是能够改变球赛的流向 03/23 21:39
66F:推 boyd1014: Lin 真。逆风球 03/23 21:46
67F:推 JBGPOIU: 推 03/23 22:32
68F:推 magamanzero: Lin跟Manu很像 除了身体天赋不一样以外... 03/24 00:01
69F:→ magamanzero: 他们都擅长突破对方防守的漏洞 而不是是去制造漏洞 03/24 00:02
70F:→ magamanzero: 依靠战术和队友的帮助 很容易利用自身的切入撕裂防守 03/24 00:03
71F:→ magamanzero: 不过身体的天赋差异 决定了finish的容易程度... 03/24 00:04
72F:→ magamanzero: 很多Manu能轻松放进的球 Lin还要绕过篮框反向上篮 03/24 00:04
73F:→ qazxswptt: Lin确实在finish上面比较辛苦 不过他其他部份练的弥补 03/24 00:07
74F:→ qazxswptt: 不少 他有的视野 启动速度 就是别人不容易有的武器 03/24 00:08
75F:→ jojozyzy: 下面一堆留言写 JLin is NOT a role player, 以他的成绩 03/24 00:30
76F:→ jojozyzy: 根本不该只是 role player 03/24 00:31
77F:推 bhmok: 以林的天赋 真的不该局限自已在角色球员 他已一再证明他可 03/24 00:36
78F:→ bhmok: 以带领球队前进 03/24 00:36
79F:→ jojozyzy: 留甚至还用stupid passive aggressive来形容这文章 03/24 00:37
80F:推 magamanzero: 考虑长远 还是当脚色球员好 血统限制就是在那 03/24 00:44
81F:→ magamanzero: 一场打个20-30 B2B好好休息 才能走得长远 03/24 00:44
82F:→ jojozyzy: 难道先发就不能长远?还有lin的体能比的过大半球员 03/24 00:49
83F:→ jojozyzy: 一个28Y有这种数据的球员就该追求先发,而非角色球员 03/24 00:50
84F:→ magamanzero: 体力只是一个微小的因素...东方人身体素质就那样 03/24 00:57
85F:→ magamanzero: 像是运动伤害的恢复 疲劳的累积 各种身体机能相关 03/24 00:57
86F:→ magamanzero: 尤其是B2B这种会伤害身体的 还是少打为妙 03/24 00:58
87F:→ GIE13: 才28岁就别想着打老人球 先发才是价值的体现 03/24 00:59
88F:推 lvpsa: 唉.. 不管怎说以支持者的角度还是希望有朝一日成为明星球员 03/24 02:25
89F:推 starcry: 扣掉勇士菜鸟年 这季在篮下的命中率是生涯次差 03/24 03:37
90F:→ starcry: 林体能(爆发力)上的天赋 在控卫中是相对不出色 在对抗 03/24 03:39
91F:→ starcry: 後的出手是一定吃亏 找林跟其他明星PG的高光来比较就能知 03/24 03:40
92F:→ starcry: 道了 力道跟延展性都有落差 能善用速度对他就已经很棒了 03/24 03:42
93F:→ starcry: 而这方面只会随年纪愈来愈衰退 要期待他能继续向上突破 03/24 03:43
94F:→ starcry: 加强运球 投篮 还有掌控球的慾望才是解答 但林似乎很享受 03/24 03:44
95F:→ starcry: 做为球队一环 不求个人表现的现况就是了 03/24 03:46
96F:推 goury: 从Lin之前的发言来看,觉得他是"被"享受不求个人表现的现况 03/24 03:51
97F:→ goury: 因为前三季遭受的挫折,让他不得不调适自己心态来接受现况 03/24 03:52
98F:推 gm79227922: 以对抗性来说 林不差了 最大问题还是投篮稳定度 03/24 04:19
99F:→ gm79227922: 这三场 投篮恢复 就有林来疯时的表现 03/24 04:19
100F:推 boyd1014: 一晃眼28岁了,唉总觉得BS要赔他钱 03/24 05:58
101F:推 uuilee: 最大问题还是nba的认同 03/24 07:17
102F:→ uuilee: 还记得 他哈佛篮球教练说的话吗 03/24 07:17
103F:→ uuilee: 林书豪nba成功需要一个以他为lead的球队 03/24 07:19
104F:→ uuilee: 可惜现今种族主义下这不可能 最接近应该是林来疯那时期 03/24 07:20
105F:推 uuilee: 他的球技最强是他无私之心 及团结之力及聪明团队篮球 03/24 07:23
106F:→ uuilee: 不过这几年他球技也被磨到有一定程度了 03/24 07:23
107F:推 uuilee: 诚心希望他能够跟mda在合体 因为丹东尼 感觉是个最有个性 03/24 07:27
108F:→ uuilee: 教练能不耍大牌球星 03/24 07:27
109F:推 kuloda: 机运问题 尼克受伤 火箭遇胡子高USG 湖人BS 黄蜂Walker 03/24 08:11
110F:→ kuloda: 真正完整先发打过PG就火箭第一年 虽有胡子 数据也还可 03/24 08:12
111F:推 kuloda: 黄蜂蛮不错 只是刚好球队一哥就是PG 又很矮防守劣势 03/24 08:15
112F:→ kuloda: 今年Lin好几场先发 都打得很不错 但实在很不容易有这机会 03/24 08:16
113F:推 ChrisPaul03: 14分6助攻 不到顶尖但也是合格的先发PG 03/24 08:53
114F:→ ChrisPaul03: 哪有什麽先发未满的道理 03/24 08:54
115F:推 mamimi: 觉得这篇文章就是整个NBA对林的定位,替补以上先发以下, 03/24 08:57
116F:→ mamimi: 打得很好“偶尔”还可以充当救世主的角色球员... 03/24 08:57
这个定位在去年签约时 运动画刊有做过几位球员的定位分析 其中一位是林 「2015 NBA free agency: Best bargains] (不知为何这网址不能缩网址 网址太长 有兴趣可以GOOGLE上面标题) FAQ uses a player’s 2014-15 PER, career PER, 2014-15 Win Shares and age to project his future value. Here’s a quick review of the FAQ scale, which roughly ranges from 0-100: 100 = Strong MVP candidate 90 = Weak MVP candidate 80 = Superstar 70 = Bona fide All-Star 60 = Borderline All-Star 50 = Above-average starter 40 = Solid starter 30 = Valued rotation member 20 = Decent role player 10 = Bench player 0 = D-League All-Star Jeremy Lin, Hornets Contract details:Two years,$4 million (16th cheapest in average annual value among free agents) Free Agent Quotient: 33.9 (40th among free agents) 文中指出这份合约的确是让许多专家非常惊讶 不过个人觉得现在回头看林的这个选择也不见得不好 套句楼上推文的话 「蹲低是为了跳更高」
117F:推 popstan: 推 03/24 09:20
118F:推 nancyh: 能有更好的发展或到有很好战术地位的理想球队是最好 但 无 03/24 09:23
119F:→ nancyh: 论是先发还是替补 都希望Lin能保有舍我其谁的那股气! 03/24 09:24
120F:→ nancyh: 且 有很强而有力的经纪团队运作 有时也很重要 不然这职场 03/24 09:26
121F:→ nancyh: 印象派的ㄧ堆 = = 03/24 09:26
122F:推 downtoearth: 没办法,刚好遇到大後卫时代 第一或第二得分手 03/24 09:45
123F:→ downtoearth: 就是後卫的球队 太普遍了... 03/24 09:46
124F:推 eileen86: 後卫这位置太竞争了 03/24 10:12
※ 编辑: kairiyu (220.136.86.241), 03/24/2016 14:07:31
125F:推 ytre5896: 推 03/24 15:46
126F:推 donnylee: 推uu大说的,nba不会给林先发这个机会的 03/24 23:19
127F:推 muller: 亚裔在美工作就是会被刻意压抑,再跟你说其实这也不错 03/25 02:51
128F:→ satheni: 林打不了先发跟现在一堆当家球星都抢球权比较有关吧... 03/25 07:00
129F:→ satheni: 而且要打造一个以林为主的球队,要塞一些角色球员 03/25 07:03
130F:→ satheni: 这样子明星球员少,球队就不赚钱了... 03/25 07:04
131F:→ satheni: 就算能赚钱,也不保证林能打多久,後面倒掉重建也是问题 03/25 07:05
132F:→ Peaks3000: 现在抱腿文化盛行 星度集中在几队 各队球星的星度黯淡 03/25 09:31
133F:→ Peaks3000: 光比人气跟炒作 根本不用担心 林待的队 明星少 一堆明 03/25 09:33
134F:→ Peaks3000: 星赛票选输林输那麽多的.....况且一直以来也不是每队都 03/25 09:34
135F:→ Peaks3000: 认真的在拼搏季後赛跟冠军赛低.. 03/25 09:35
136F:推 davidlhs: 别人怎麽城他定位是一回事,LIN自己的期许不能这样消极 03/25 10:25
137F:→ downtoearth: "打造一个以林为主的球队"这句其实很奇怪... 03/25 10:38
138F:→ downtoearth: 你们确定,LIN自己期待这件事发生吗? 03/25 10:39
139F:推 PttCraft: 当然期待 03/25 11:18
140F:推 Gilbertsky: 我的想法是能做Play Maker的人之中没有不想当核心的 03/25 11:22
141F:→ Gilbertsky: 当你知道自己持球能掌控比赛节奏时 你不会想打无球的 03/25 11:24
142F:推 expedition: 无论去那里永远有强手,不能跟人合作就是整合的问题 03/25 15:39
143F:→ expedition: 与其期待教练不如自己练强,或自己多跟人练搭配攻击 03/25 15:40
144F:→ jcchiou: 想要成为建队核心,自己要够强够稳,Lin还缺稳定性 03/25 21:36
145F:→ jcchiou: >70%的出赛都能打出虐马刺的功力,人家抱着钱来求你当大哥 03/25 21:37
146F:→ bhmok: 有人可以说下到底有多不稳吗? 03/25 21:59
147F:→ bhmok: 和其他相近的球员比稳定性有差多少? 03/25 22:01
148F:→ Peaks3000: 撇开肤色问题 讲直白一点就是天赋跟个人技巧不特别优异 03/25 22:19
149F:→ Peaks3000: 跟稳定性没关系 人家要捧打在烂数据有刷到也没关系 03/25 22:21
150F:→ Peaks3000: Lin的心态才是问题 企图心不足 自信心看手感 03/25 22:26
151F:→ Peaks3000: ^如果单单观察Lin的话 对Lin个人而言 03/25 22:34
152F:推 miha80425: 无私到他那个地步 想当核心除非教练有爱 03/25 22:39
153F:推 jt: 很多球星都是大量球权和时间养出来的 03/25 23:25
154F:→ jt: 你林的命没有这样好 然後人又太好... 03/25 23:25
155F:推 playing808: 赞 03/25 23:29
156F:→ Peaks3000: 别人的不"稳定" 都可以说是有潜力 有能量 还年轻..... 03/25 23:36
157F:→ Peaks3000: 看看这些年被酸吹捧的咖.... 03/25 23:37
158F:推 eileen86: 我林没那命好吗 ㄧ场低於10就酸不稳 别人直接略过不谈XD 03/25 23:38
159F:→ eileen86: D 03/25 23:38
160F:推 eileen86: 去查其他对替补数据 也没场场"稳定" 但大众只拿这点酸 03/25 23:40
161F:→ eileen86: 林 03/25 23:40
162F:→ eileen86: *队 03/25 23:40
163F:→ Peaks3000: 还先发未满板凳以上咧!!......标准是???????? 03/25 23:40
164F:→ BadGame: 开创者的道路很辛苦 只能背後支持了... 03/25 23:48
165F:推 eno03: 感谢翻译 希望有一天能看到他打先发PG整季 03/27 00:29
166F:→ O10lOl01O: 有一天?到火箭第一季就是这样阿 应该说再有吧 03/27 09:15
167F:推 boyd1014: 是阿~~9分也可以酸 哈哈哈 03/27 19:50
168F:→ msk127: 废到笑 赶快退一退拉 06/20 00:09







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