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※ [本文转录自 Rockets 看板 #1HI7zGeI ] 作者: salazopyrin (salazopyrin) 看板: Rockets 标题: [外电] Why is Houston’s defense still bad? 时间: Tue Mar 19 23:07:58 2013 原文连结: http://www.red94.net/focusing-defensive-lapses/11976/#more-11976 Why is Houston’s defense still bad? By MICHAEL PINA | MARCH 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM 为什麽火箭的防守还是很烂? Since Donatas Motiejunas entered Houston’s starting lineup, that particular five-man unit has allowed just 95.6 points per 100 possessions. It’s an elite figure, but the sample size is far too small to attribute it any meaning. 自从D-MO被拉到先发後,这个5人组合让对手平均每100次球权只得95.6分。这是一个蛮 出色的数据,但是样本数太小所以也没什麽意义。 Motiejunas has played only 11 games with Jeremy Lin, James Harden, Chandler Parsons and Omer Asik beside him on the court. Here are the teams they’ve gone against: Nets, Wizards, Bucks, Magic, Mavericks, Warriors, Suns, and Timberwolves. Two of those teams boast top 10 offenses (barely), two are average, and the remaining four all find themselves ranked at or near the bottom. D-MO跟林、哈登、帕帅还有阿西同时在场上的时候只有11场而已。以下这些是他们过去 几场所面对的队伍﹕篮网、巫师、公鹿、魔术、小牛、勇士、太阳以及灰狼。其中有两 只队伍在进攻方面排名前十,还有两队在平均值左右,剩下的那几队不是垫底就是倒数 几名。 For this entire season, Houston’s defense has been inadequate. Despite harboring one of the four or five best defensive centers in the game, along with a few players on the perimeter who can be disruptive on the ball, the Rockets have yet to figure out a consistent method to slow opposing offenses down. They allow 104.3 points per 100 possessions, making them the 10th worst defense in the NBA. 这一整个球季,火箭的防守一直都是不及格的。除了拥有在防守上前四或前五的中锋以 及少数几个能在外围干扰球流动的人以外,火箭并没有找出一个稳定的方法来阻止对方 的进攻。他们让对手每100次球权得到104.3分,这是联盟里防守第十差的排名。 The good news is that most of their problems are correctable, or so it would seem. A vast majority of the open shots Houston allows are due to various mental mistakes: ball watching, losing track of shooters, failing to know when it’s time to shoot the gap and when it’s time to stick to your man, needlessly helping in the paint when proper help is already there. 好消息是,他们大部分的问题都是可以改善的,至少看起来是如此。大部份火箭让对手 所跑出来的空档都是来自於他们各种心态上的错误﹕只盯着球看,跟丢进攻者,不知道 什麽时候要扑出来阻止对方或是什麽时候要紧贴着对方,在禁区里不需要协防的时候跑 来协防。 These are all mistakes the Rockets make constantly, but all can be fixed. They don’t require an upgrade in skill or personnel, but more a change in mindset when it comes to defensive discipline. The Rockets are the youngest team in the league, so to watch them still endure growing pains shouldn’t be a surprise. Here are several examples. 这些都是火箭一直不断在犯的错误,所幸这些都可以被修正。不需要在个人或技巧上面 去提升,只需要在防守准则上改变他们的心态或是习惯。火箭是一只联盟里最年轻的球 队,所以看到他们还处於阵痛期一点也不意外。以下是一些例子。 (图片连结) http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Lin-at-free-throw-line.png
Here we have Jeremy Lin standing at the free-throw line, leaving his man, Ricky Rubio, wide open behind the three-point line on the left wing. He’s there to help prevent a wide open driving lane for Timberwolves center Greg Stiemsma, who’s operating a side pick-and-roll with Luke Ridnour. 在上图我们可以看到林站在罚球线上,离开他该防守的 Rubio,让他在左侧的三分线上 有一个大空档。林站那边是要防止灰狼中锋 Stiemsma在跟Ridnour挡拆後有空间可以切 入。 Knowing the situation, is this really necessary? Let’s say Stiemsma catches the ball in motion at the right elbow. Then what? Even if Lin isn’t there, there are two back line defenders (Motiejunas and Parsons) plus the quick-footed Asik there to help. Also, Stiemsma isn’t good. 看了这种情况,林站在那边真的是必要的吗?假使,Stiemsma真的接到Ridnour的传球, 然後呢?假设林不站在那边,後面还有两个防守球员D-MO跟帅哥,还有脚步不慢的阿西 也可以补防。再说,Stiemsma的进攻能力并不好。 Here’s what happens: 接下来发生的情况︰ (图片连结) http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Lin-getting-backscreened-2.png
Timberwolves forward Dante Cunningham sets a back screen on Houston’s unsuspecting point guard, and Rubio is sprung for a wide open three ball. To Lin’s credit, this isn’t the most egregious play, being that Rubio is shooting less than 20% on three-pointers this season. But that doens’t mean he couldn’t position himself better. 灰狼前锋Cunningham作了一个掩护挡住了火箭状况外的控卫,Rubio得到了一个大空挡。 对林来说,这或许不是很糟糕的一球,因为Rubio本季的三分球命中率低於百分之二十, 但这并不表示林不能站在一个更好的位置上。 The first clip of this article features James Harden, Houston’s best offensive player and worst defensive player. We’ve seen this type of indifference from him all season. This play in particular is alarming, but easily preventable if he wants to prevent it. 哈登是这篇文章第一个短片的主角。他是火箭最强的进攻者也是火箭最差的防守者。在 本季我们已经看过太多次他这种不在乎的防守态度。灰狼这波进攻是个警讯,但如果哈 登愿意的话他也可以轻易的避免这种错误。 (Harden leakout) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k7Cf_TRaVcg
Rubio takes a contested pull up jumper on the right side of the lane, and off Harden goes, out past the three-point line looking for a quick fastbreak opportunity. As the Timberwolves grab the offensive rebound, Harden is still backpedaling towards the other end. Why? Well, he wants the easy basket on the other end, that’s why. And if you’ve ever played basketball before, can you really blame him? The play results in a wide open mid-range jumper for Luke Ridnour; the type of shot he could swish with both eyes closed while fixing a sandwich. Rubio 在右边急停跳投後,哈登已经开始偷跑了到三分线想要来个快攻。但是灰狼抢到 进攻篮板,哈登还是往另一边跑,为什麽?好吧,因为他想要跑快攻,就这样。而如果 你有打过篮球你会去责怪他吗?这个结果是Ridnour在中距离有一个大空档, 让他可以 一边闭着眼睛把球投进篮框然後一边作三明治。 More on Harden later. 後面再来谈哈登。 The next guilty party is Chandler Parsons, a player whose great overall skillset is often overlooked thanks to an uber-team friendly contract. In his rookie season Parsons began to make a name for himself as an incredible on-ball defender, and his work on Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant drew praise from both players. 下一个要谴责的是高富帅,一个非常全面的球员却因为佛心来的合约而常常被忽略。在 他的新人球季,他已经为他自己打出名声,一个防守持球者防的非常出色的球员。他在 防守Kobe或是Durant上都得到来自这两人的赞许。 This season Parsons has taken a minor step back on the defensive end; most of it is due to his random action away from the ball. 本季他的防守有些退步,这是由於他在离球的远端时有些不知所谓的动作。 (图片连结) http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Parsons-drops-down-.png
Rubio has barely penetrated past Lin and his reward is a rushed look at a snarling Asik. Look where Parsons is standing. Why did he drop so low, leaving Mickael Gelabale beyond wide open on the perimeter? (Gelabale is shooting 52.5% on the season.) Rubio仅仅只是切过林,而他要面对是虎视眈眈的阿西。看看Parsons站在哪,他为什麽 要沉到那麽低的位置而让Gelabale在有外围有一个大空档呢?(Gelabale本季命中率是5 成25) The play ends with Minnesota taking full advantage of Parsons’ mistake. Rubio swings the ball to Gelabale, who passes it to a wide open Stiemsma on the baseline after Parsons retreats for a late close out. Stiemsma sinks the shot. 灰狼充分利用了帅哥这个防守上的失误。Rubio传给Gelabale,等到Parsons扑出来时再 传给空档的Stiemsma投进两分。 But Parsons’ troubles don’t just come with weakside help. Here he is later on guarding Gelabale. Rubio sets a pin down screen but instead of following his man above it, Parsons cuts beneath, then unnecessarily runs into a second screen set by Stiemsma. Here’s the play: 帅哥的问题不只是弱边协防,以下是他稍後防守Gelable的情况。 Rubio在底线作了一个 掩护,帅哥选择从Rubio下方(左边)穿过,而不是上方(右边),然後又往一个根本不需要 去的掩护冲去。 (Chandler Parsons screen trouble) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MSx_h-PwvqY
(Before we finish up with one more play from Harden, I’d like to point out that the Rockets would be in the lottery if not for his work on the offensive end. Harden’s defense needs work, sure, but his effort with the ball is an irreplaceable commodity, and it’d be an honest shame if he didn’t end up in fourth or fifth place in the final MVP ballot. For all the gushing praise Dwyane Wade and Kobe Bryant receive for their play this season, Harden undoubtedly belongs in their class at the shooting guard position. Okay, now back to jumping on his defense.) (在我们以另一个哈登的防守情况作为结束前,我想要说明一下,如果没有哈登在进攻端 的作用,火箭有可能只能在乐透区里面。哈登的防守的确需要努力, 但他在持球进攻上 有无可取代的价值,而最後的MVP票选上如果他没能排在第四或第五将会是一件很遗憾的 事。对比本季人们对Kobe跟Wade源源不绝的赞美, 哈登毫无疑问在SG这个位置上是跟他 们同一等级的。) (图片连结) http://www.red94.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Wandering-Harden.png
If I hadn’t already pointed out the play where Harden leaks out instead of staying with his man, could you even guess who he’s supposed to be guarding right now? Look at it in real time: (Harden Wanders) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rGQ0YvWcPqU1
如果我先前没有提到谁是哈登漏掉的人,你可以猜到那一个是他该防守的人吗? Harden is helping on a Stiemsma roll to the basket, but similar to the Jeremy Lin play from before, is his positioning a bit dramatic? As Rubio takes a dribble to the left, Harden hades more towards the middle of the court even though Motiejunas is already in the paint. Meanwhile, Harden’s man, once again Ridnour, drifts to the corner. Completely ignored. The ball is eventually swung to him and he hits the shot. 哈登帮忙防守Stiemsma以防他冲向篮框,但就像之前林那个情况一样,他所站的位置会 不会有点尴尬?当Rubio往左边运球时,哈登却越来越往禁区中间靠过去,即使 D-MO已 经站在禁区也是一样。同时,哈登要盯的人,同样又是Ridnour,往底角移动。 他完全 被忽视,球传过来然後他投进一个三分。 All these decisions by Houston’s defenders come with the strategy of packing the paint, disallowing penetration or anything easy near the rim. But they also all come with Omer Asik on the court, and what’s the use in over helping when you have a guy like that protecting the rim? (Asik is out on the perimeter guarding pick-and-rolls in a couple of these examples, but if the Rockets are so concerned with their interior defense in these situations maybe they should have Asik sag below the free-throw line to help contain the ball-handler whenever the opposing center isn’t all that great a risk of popping out for a jumper.) 火箭这些防守球员所作的这些决定都是基於把禁区堵住这个策略,不容许任何球员切入 或是靠近篮框简单得分。但在他们作这些决定的同时,阿西也在场上;当你有一个像阿 西这样可以保护篮框的球员时,这些过度协防有何用处? (某些情况,阿西会出来帮忙 防守挡拆,但如果火箭真的这麽在意在那种情况下他们内线的防守,在对方中锋跳投能 力不是很好的情形下,他们可以让阿西在罚球线以下游离去帮忙防守持球者。) Some of these open shots might be the result of scheme, but others simply aren ’t smart basketball. Even after the Rockets make their run at a secondary All-Star caliber player, if they don’t clean up their defensive miscues a championship won’t be in the cards. 有一些空档是对方设计战术所跑出来的,但有一些空档却是不聪明的打法所致。即使火 箭已经有了第二个有明星水准的球员,但如果他们不解决他们防守上的失策,他们将永 远无法获得冠军。 --



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※ 编辑: iswearxxx 来自: 118.168.76.138 (03/19 23:38)
1F:推 sdfsonic:胡子的防守有时候真的让人吐血 03/19 23:43
2F:推 rb0306:终於有中肯的文章了 火箭的爱协防程度真的让人ㄎㄎ 03/19 23:51
3F:推 EdCh:Lin的协防太深 真的没什麽必要 03/19 23:53
4F:推 sanheeshaung:这篇真的不错 讲出火箭这三个人防守上的问题:) 03/19 23:58
5F:推 ppppllo:所以这也点出来冰箱把林按在板凳上 说他防守让人不够信服 03/20 00:00
6F:→ ppppllo:制服组似乎完全没有想要补强防守这块的洞.... 03/20 00:01
7F:推 jstar100:冰箱的话还有人信?!29分9失误bj4 03/20 00:07
8F:→ tomo1026:这个老实讲有点事後分析 不过算是认真文 03/20 00:29
9F:推 FRX:对勇士的时候 胡子连续漏掉他该守的人 让对方连进三颗三分.... 03/20 00:54
10F:推 andachi:这篇是标准的用键盘打球 (  ̄ c ̄)y▂ξ 03/20 01:28
11F:推 kinki999:林协防过深到是真的~ 03/20 07:21
12F:推 watwmark:火箭的防守需要的是教练组的调教吧,而不是交易补强 03/20 07:34
13F:推 ILLwill:制服组可能只想打造极致跑轰而已 03/20 08:26
14F:推 nancyh:推w大说的! 希望有关防守建言的文章 防守教练可以看到! 03/20 08:58
15F:推 hiro1221:火箭似乎会收缩防守防止对方切入,但是常漏掉外线 03/20 10:03
16F:→ hiro1221:胡子不是协防的问题了,他对防守根本没放在心上 03/20 10:04
17F:推 djviva:谢翻译, 好中肯的文章 03/20 10:48
18F:推 forttryon:胡子的问题是只看球不看人 只跟着球跑 不管人 03/20 11:23
19F:→ j88072434:我其实很好奇 如果胡子全面进攻 林只防守不进攻会有什麽 03/20 13:53
20F:→ j88072434:效果耶~ 还是说要反过来XD? 03/20 13:54
21F:→ peter16:J大 那你就会看到被夹死死的胡子 跟被切爽的後防 03/20 14:00
22F:推 j88072434:哦...所以哈林两人都还是要攻守并重罗? 如果只单一负责 03/20 14:07
23F:→ j88072434:一件事情的话都会很惨吗? 这样他们体力流失很快阿.. 03/20 14:07
24F:→ j88072434:他们防守真的是大问题 要是有大锁 哈林就可能可以全力进 03/20 14:08
25F:→ j88072434:攻了 03/20 14:08
26F:→ peter16:不管有没有大锁 後防都还是要有基本的对位能力 03/20 14:09
27F:→ peter16:不能只靠一或两个球员帮忙协防.... 03/20 14:09
28F:→ peter16:与其说是攻守并重 不如说他们两个都要用心在攻防两端 03/20 14:09
29F:→ peter16:有时胡子常常会偷懒.... 03/20 14:10
30F:→ peter16:但如果补了大锁 多少会减轻防守对方主力攻击手的压力 03/20 14:10
31F:→ peter16:但目前火箭的阵型 补专职大锁不是当务之急 是补好用内线 03/20 14:10
32F:→ iswearxxx:Lin的罚球变差 我觉得是因为在防守上耗太多体力 03/20 14:12
33F:→ j88072434:回楼上 林的体力真的是很大的问题~ 03/20 14:16
34F:→ j88072434:b2b林打不好有时候是因为体力吗? 03/20 14:17
35F:推 attdave:我觉得跟体力有正相关 不一定是绝对 但林若要跟胡走的长久 03/20 14:20
36F:→ attdave:林的体力还是要跟胡看齐 胡打b2b2b2b2b2b好像都没事一样@@ 03/20 14:21
37F:推 peter16:中间的7的B是深夜作战? 03/20 14:24
38F:推 attdave:休士顿深夜好像比较没得玩 若在迈阿密就惨了 胡适应良好 03/20 14:26
39F:推 PTT0000:嗯,队友再怎麽帮忙协防,你自己不盯好自己的人,就是会 03/20 14:30
40F:→ PTT0000:造成防守线崩溃,这几场已经有针对哈登这点在打的球队了 03/20 14:31
41F:→ PTT0000:所以既然哈登觉得进攻方面耗太多精力没办法防守,那为何 03/20 14:31
42F:→ PTT0000:不适当分配一下?他真的不需要进攻组织一手抓,球权放给 03/20 14:32
43F:→ PTT0000:Lin来组织,他就可以多一点精力放在防守上了 03/20 14:32
44F:→ PTT0000:再说Lin的体力我想应该没有许多人想像中差吧!仔细观察一 03/20 14:33
45F:→ PTT0000:场比赛,Lin往往是跑动最多的那个,以火箭现在可悲的防守 03/20 14:33
46F:→ peter16:两个後卫等於是防守的前线 若有一个比较不专注 03/20 14:33
47F:→ PTT0000:体系,他每次被打P&R,就只能一直追着对位球员跑 03/20 14:34
48F:→ peter16:整体的防守不管怎麽补都会出现漏洞 更别提火箭还很菜 03/20 14:34
49F:→ peter16:原本的漏洞就常有 所以哈登的防守也得给力 03/20 14:34
50F:→ PTT0000:看他绕过来绕过去,不时被大个子挡一下拐一下,当然很耗 03/20 14:34
51F:→ PTT0000:体力 03/20 14:34
52F:→ peter16:不然不是累死林就是高富帅 然後看内线犯满 03/20 14:35
53F:→ iswearxxx:我很不想这麽说...等哈登好好防守还能维持一样的体力的 03/20 14:38
54F:→ iswearxxx:时候 你再来称赞哈登的体力好 03/20 14:39
55F:推 attdave:也是 胡子的体力的确用在进攻上比较多 林是两头烧 03/20 14:43
56F:推 j88072434:胡子进攻加上防守都不会累那真的可以算是生化人了 03/20 15:31
57F:→ j88072434:之前在别的地方 有人说胡子是生化人 我是认为还不到~ 03/20 15:31
58F:→ iswearxxx:我只是认为说林的体力比胡子差并不公平 03/20 15:36
59F:→ iswearxxx:林就是被要求又要进攻又要防守 03/20 15:36
60F:推 j88072434:对阿~ 所以胡子体力到底好不好也还是不清楚呢 03/20 15:41







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