作者PTT0000 (0000)
看板Jeremy_Lin
标题Re: [外絮] 林书豪在火箭之二:攻守转换失误与防守
时间Mon Aug 20 15:28:28 2012
这篇文章跟之前讨论Lin的P&R能力的文章是同一个作者写的,
但这篇比起上篇,显然引起网友更多的讨论,
有些人同意,有些人认为作者的观点稍嫌偏颇,
提出不同的看法。
跟大家分享几个网友的留言,
倒不是说Lin是不可批评的,
他的弱点相信他自己也很清楚,
只是我觉得多看看网友们不同的想法,
也有助於我们更了解这些专业知识。^-^
首先是本篇文章下面,按赞最多的两个留言,
原谅我偷懒,只大略翻译一下:
Whitman Lam
As the only point guard option on the Knicks, he had to avoid getting into
foul trouble early in the game. Most of the time he didn't even raise his
arms to contest shots, because he could get whistled for a foul just for
brushing a shooter's elbow. He couldn't play superstar physical the way Rondo
and Metta World Peace do because he didn't get favorable whistles from
officials. Earlier in the season he played excellent defense, then played
softer because the coaching staff can't let him foul out. Baron Davis was
injured and Mike Bibby was a drop off, so he couldn't afford to sit down.
身为尼克唯一的PG,他必须避免过早陷入犯规麻烦,
这可能是他防守不够尽力的原因之一。
在季初的时候,他防守其实很不错的,
後来变得比较放松,可能是教练团叮咛他不要因犯规离场的关系。
Wayne Li
1.The best defense is offense, that is Mike D'Antoni system all about, I
believe it is Kevin McHale's too.
2. Nowadays, it is hard to play defense one on one to a good PG or other
explosive players. Jeremy Lin blow-by John Wall and other defenders many
times, but you cannot say John Wall is bad defender.
3. Jeremy Lin is still gaining experience and improving.
在冷笑话体系中,最佳的防守就是进攻,相信McHale(火箭队总教练)也是如此。
而且在现今的NBA,本来1对1防守就是很困难的(通常必须靠协防),
JLin面对John Wall打得很好,但你不能说John Wall防守很烂。
另外,在火箭迷集散地Cluthfans也有相当精采的讨论,
正反两面都有,有空的话,推荐可以慢慢地看。
http://ppt.cc/0ocH
我个人觉得写得比较精辟的有两则:
10楼的formido
这篇留言很长,就不整个贴过来了,主要重点是说明为了不让PG陷入犯规麻烦,
通常不会要求他们成为防守大锁。
另外他认为1对1防守的数据并不是衡量一个球员是否有防守能力的好指标。
重点在最後一段:
Luckily, we have even better information: Last year with the Knicks. Was Lin
effective on aggregate defensive production? Yes. The Knicks were a top 5
defensive team last year. With Lin on the floor, their defense got even
better:
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http://www.nba.com/2012/news/feature...lo/index.html]
The analysis there brings up a crucial point. Yes, although he's quite
athletic, Lin is not Iman Shumpert. He needs tools to help him use his
basketball IQ to limit opponent points, for example an effective shot
blocking center that he can funnel his man to. To wit: "[Lin and Chandler]
ranked ... 16th of 470 two-man combinations that logged at least 600 minutes
together last season." Pretty good, no? Lin and Chandler had the best two man
defensive rating on the Knicks, a top 5 defensive team. So at the very least,
when paired with appropriate people, Lin is capable of leveraging other elite
defenders to achieve elite defensive interaction affects. If Asik is as good
as advertised, there should be little cause for fear.
他说,Lin不是Iman Shumpert(意指运动能力没香波那麽强),
他需要某些工具来帮助他运用篮球IQ去限制对手得方,
例如一个有效率拥有盖锅能力的中锋。
Lin跟Tyson Chandler是相当好的防守两人组,在470中排名第16。
所以接下来火箭就要寄望Asik能不能与Lin良好地配合了。XDD
40楼的raskol的分析也不错。
他认为Lin在1对1防守时确实不够出色,原因在於他必须在做团队防守时,
更专注於自己对位的球员,以及加强水平移动的速度。
Lin当然需要控制自己的失误,但他认为在攻守转移的时候,
Lin的表现并不像本篇文章作者所指称的那麽差。
JLin does need to work on paying better attention to his man while playing
team defense and he does have to get quicker laterally in man to man defense.
That said, his propensity toward an aggressive help defense leads to a more
swarming, turnover creating defense, which ultimately is a net positive IMO.
Conclusion, as expected, JLin needs to cut down on TOs while maintaining his
aggressiveness and needs to play better man on d while maintaining his knack
for help d. In context, his transition ability is FAR greater than the
article states, and his defensive ability points out the hole in his
abilities but does not take into account his overall effect on d.
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1F:推 shao729:Lin跟Chandler合作防守 盖Rose那球印象深刻 08/20 15:36
2F:推 kkyyk:老实讲就算1对1防守Lin确实只是SOSO但是篮球毕竟是团队阿.. 08/20 15:37
3F:推 admorert:Asik防守很强的...... 08/20 15:40
4F:推 kerotamama:记得论坛还有提到他第二次对小胖其实单防很不错 逼得小 08/20 15:43
5F:→ kerotamama:胖只能开三分无双XDDD 他可能要改善协防痴汉这点吧?XD 08/20 15:44
6F:→ PTT0000:协防是一定要的吧?我也有看到有人说他第一步被过後,後面 08/20 15:45
7F:→ PTT0000:的大个应该要来协防的,但大个也漏人就没辄了XD 08/20 15:45
8F:→ kkyyk:还要改善他有时候会差点靠失误拿大三元阿.. 08/20 15:46
9F:→ kerotamama:他和拳王双人搭配这麽好哦(惊) 希望和Asik/Patterson也 08/20 15:47
10F:→ kerotamama:可以搭配起来~~~ 08/20 15:47
11F:→ kerotamama:1对1就很吃力了 协防应该交给防守悍将来XDD 08/20 15:49
12F:→ kkyyk:虽然等级差很多,外面打球时要单防掉攻击能力强的人真的很累 08/20 15:53
13F:推 dalepp:推 08/20 16:07
15F:推 soffi:推推 08/21 00:06
16F:推 essendo:真期待能早点看到火箭新团队打球^^ 08/21 22:59
17F:推 leroialice:谢谢四零大:) 也觉得当时Lin是唯一PG,可能是1对1防守 08/22 18:23
18F:→ leroialice:表现较差的原因之一。不过文中那位10楼formido的连结坏 08/22 18:24
19F:→ leroialice:了,记得470双人组中排名16位的数据应该是来自这篇 08/22 18:25