作者noral (nora)
看板Jeremy_Lin
标题[外絮] 火箭论坛关於林的讨论
时间Sun Jul 29 23:26:31 2012
这里应该是美国火箭迷的集散地
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/
以前习惯去RealGM看乡民讨论的林迷,可以转移阵地了。:)
RealGM上虽然也有火箭板,但远不及clutchfans热闹。
现在论坛上有一篇置顶的讨论主题
"[OFFICIAL] Jeremy Lin IS a Houston Rocket"
以下翻译两个球迷的对话:
一个是JohnTs,2012年7月加入论坛,是尼克迷也是林迷。
另一个是ArtV,2002年6月加入论坛,是10年以上的火箭迷。
讨论串出现在第63页,#後面的数字代表第几篇。
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#1251 ArtV 07-18-2012, 08:52 AM
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NY only gave Lin a chance when all their PGs went down with injuries. They
act like they are the reason for his play. He is the reason for his play and
he got the opportunity by default not as a favor. And they could have still
had him back but for some very strange reason they decided to sign an out of
shape Felton instead.
Lin is his own man just as he should be. Welcome back Jeremy
纽约尼克直到他们所有的後卫都受伤之後,才给林一个机会。
尼克表现得一副林之所以成功全都该归功於他们。
林的成功是归功自己的努力,尼克没有特意给他机会,只是那时正好轮到他。
而且他们本来可以把林签回来,却因为莫名的理由,决定签下身材走样的肥顿。
林一直以来都是靠自己,这才是对的。
欢迎归队,Jeremy。
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#1252 JohnTs 07-18-2012, 08:52 AM
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Why can't New Yorkers be upset. It's a very conflicted time for us right now.
为什麽纽约人不能沮丧?对我们来说,这是充满挣扎矛盾的时刻。
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#1253 ArtV 07-18-2012, 09:06 AM
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Being upset is ok. Calling him racist name, a traitor, etc and making it seem
like its his fault for leaving is where its messed up. Dolan has plenty and
why in the world would you sign Felton? Goran left the Rockets after he
bloomed when Lowry went down. Nobody called him names. Nobody called him a
traitor. Yes there was anger but it was toward management...and he was an UFA.
Lin is his own man and signing for more money is the natural thing to do. You
could have matched but management chose not to. Who is really to blame here?
沮丧是一回事。但用种族歧视的字眼称呼林,好像离开全是他的错,就太糟糕了。
杜兰有的是钱,为什麽偏偏要签肥顿?
抓鸡在火箭大放异彩,但球季结束就走人。
没有人给他取难听的绰号,没有人叫他叛徒。
球迷是很生气,但生气的对象是管理层……更何况抓鸡是不受限自由球员。
林是独立个体,他签下金额较高的合约也合情合理。
尼克高层只需跟进合约就能留下他,但高层选择放弃。
这究竟该怪谁?
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#1257 JohnTs 07-18-2012, 09:22 AM
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I agree 100%. I think it's pretty humorous that people are calling him a
traitor, like the dude isn't supposed to try to get as much guaranteed money
as he can. I also think the racist comments are completely out of line for a
guy who made a business decision for himself.
我百分之百同意你。
有人喊他叛徒实在很好笑,好像他不应该争取更有保障的合约似的。
林所做的决定只不过是在商言商,我也觉得用种族歧视的字眼来评价他实在太超过。
As where LeBron had a choice of where he wanted to go, Lin didn't have that
much of a choice; his destiny was to be determined by whoever wanted him
more, not necessarily vice versa.
LBJ有权决定自己的去向,林却没有这样的选择。
他的去向取决於哪一支队伍更有心想网罗他,而不是他更想去哪支队伍。
If Knicks fans are really mad and don't want to express their anger to Dolan
they should look to Morey --- He's the one who set the proverbial bar so high
it made Dolan reconsider offering.
如果尼克球迷真的很愤怒,但又不想把怒气发泄在杜兰身上,
那他们生气的对象应该是莫雷。
他才是那个把金额提高到杜兰必须重新考虑是否跟进的罪魁祸首。
You can't fault Lin (or his agent) for trying to get the most money.
你不能责怪林(或他的经纪人)设法争取最大的合约。
I am a HUGE Lin and Knicks fan. You may have seen me on TV the night he
torched the Lakers, as I was the guy with the orange, "ALL I DO IS LIN LIN
LIN" shirt (ESPN gave me like 40sec of airtime!).
我是忠实的林迷和尼克迷。
你们可能在电视转播上看过我,就是他大败湖人那场。
我是那个穿着"ALL I DO IS LIN LIN LIN" T恤的家伙。
(ESPN好像足足给了我40秒的镜头)。
※附上本尊真相图 http://pic.pimg.tw/emailnews/1329385949-1444715697_n.jpg

I'm gonna miss that kid. There was one moment in the Lakers game I was
watching on TV (I DVR'd it to re-watch when i got home), the Knicks were up
41-49 going into halftime, and Lin was playing great but couldn't take
advantage of Tyson Chandler for any alley-oops. Before they let him go into
the lockerroom, Lisa Salters him a quick 1st half interview. I remember a
very intriguing part of the conversation:
我会很想念这个孩子。
对湖人这场有个插曲,我之後才在电视上看到
(我事先预录比赛,这样回家後才可以重看)。
上半场尼克以41-49领先,林打得很出色,但他一直无法和拳王连线。
在他进休息室前,记者Lisa Salters拦住他做中场访问。
以下是很有意思的对话:
Salters: "So, how difficult has it been to get the ball inside like you
usually do"
记者:把球传到禁区是不是比往常来得困难?
Lin: "Well we've been trying to do some different things but I need to get
guys like Tyson and Amar'e more involved. I'm gonna go watch some tape right
now"
林:我们试着尝试不同方法。我必须找到拳王让他参与进攻。我现在要进去看录影带了。
Salters: "How do you see the.....wait, you're going to look at the tape right
now?"
记者:你怎麽看……等等!你现在要进去看录影带?
Lin: "yeah, right now."
林:没错,就是现在。
.....and he went and watched the tape, came back out, and was able to utilize
Tyson more effectively en route to having an unbelievable overall game.
然後他就进去看比赛录影,回到场上後,他和拳王的连线更有效率,
这场比赛令人难以置信。
This kid appears to have the type of work ethic that is extremely hard to
come by, especially in the big bad world of the NBA where it's easier to be
flashy than fundamental. Watching game tape at halftime is just one small
example of the ways in which this kid will try to better himself.
这孩子拥有的敬业态度简直难能可贵,
特别是在NBA这个大染缸,华而不实往往比脚踏实地要来得容易。
在比赛中场看录影带,从这个小例子就可以看出,这孩子是怎样努力让自己更进步。
While I understand the logic of the Knicks deciding not to bring him back, I
don't necessarily agree with it; but you never have to agree with the
decision your team makes, and so I will take this with a (very large) grain
of salt, and hopefully Lin becomes a very solid NBA player.
尽管我可以理解尼克不签他回来的背後逻辑,但我并不赞同这项决定;
然而你并不需要同意你支持球队的每个决定,所以我只能对此持保留态度。
并且希望林能够成为一名表现紮实稳定的NBA球员。
The sneak in me would think that this is a Knicks move to set themselves up
to trade away Amar'e and get CP3, but I think we all know by now that Dolan
isn't very good at poker.
虽然我暗自猜想尼克下这步棋,是为了之後交易阿骂、换来CP3,
但我们都知道杜兰在牌桌上的表现不怎麽高明。
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心得:
还是有像JohnTs这样比较理性的尼克迷。XD
(不过他为了林特地加入火箭论坛,应该也算是忠实林迷。)
简单挑几篇留言翻译,有兴趣的欢迎讨论 + 接力。:)
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1F:推 ab32110:哇哇 感谢翻译 推!!!!!!! 07/29 23:29
2F:推 PTT0000:感谢原PO翻译整理!clutchfans还没认真逛过,但能看到球迷 07/29 23:29
3F:→ PTT0000:这样对话很感动!那场对湖人比赛中场访问,Lin说要去看录 07/29 23:30
4F:→ PTT0000:影带,连访问他的女记者都吓一跳,他真的很敬业XD 07/29 23:30
5F:推 jaykinki:推!!!!!!!!!! 07/29 23:31
6F:推 plzsmile:喔喔~~感谢n大分享! 录影带那段有听说过,但有画面吗? 07/29 23:31
7F:推 PTT0000:有啊,湖人跟尼克那场比赛中场的访问 07/29 23:33
8F:推 yun0215:JohnTs太有爱了!!!!!!!原来就是穿LIN~LIN~LIN T 的人!!!! 07/29 23:33
9F:推 gaudiron:谢翻译 07/29 23:34
10F:推 plzsmile:哈XDD 刚去翻了一下中场访问,真的有耶~~ 07/29 23:34
11F:推 dalepp:感谢翻译与资讯分享 07/29 23:35
12F:推 xsummerx:推翻译!!我对这球迷超有印象的XDD 07/29 23:36
13F:推 essendo:感谢翻译与资讯分享!! 07/29 23:36
14F:推 Lintendo:All I do is Lin~ Lin~ Lin~ 07/29 23:36
15F:→ Emily173:这个Lin~ Lin~ Lin~我以为他是个名人,镜头照超久的。 07/30 00:08
16F:推 patrickleeee:常看对湖人高光应该常看到他XD 文章还没看到照片我就 07/30 00:23
17F:→ patrickleeee:想到 他应该是黑人 当时照超久的 07/30 00:23
18F:→ ilanese:尼克不报价又不跟进别队的约,那你叫Lin要怎麽待在尼克? 07/30 00:39
19F:→ noral:JohnTs超有爱^^ 那位资深火箭迷说的也很有道理 07/30 00:57
20F:推 putare:感谢翻译~~~ 07/30 02:30
21F:推 Number41:希望会躲过CP3人生 07/30 02:53
22F:推 tonylou:great article selection! thanks 07/30 03:15
23F:推 iamPamela:谢谢JonhTs!!!!! 感谢翻译!!!!! 07/30 08:30
24F:推 kerotamama:感谢翻译~总是还有人记得他的认真XD 期待新球季啦~~~ 07/30 09:11
25F:推 admorert:大推专业翻译和资料整理*^____________^* 07/30 09:13
26F:推 admorert:看到JohnTs的理性 某些媒体和球迷真应该感到羞愧.... 07/30 09:20
27F:推 nancyh:感谢分享和翻译^^ 07/30 09:44
28F:推 ILLwill:讲得真好 07/30 10:14
29F:推 cloudie:推推推!!! 说的真好!!!!! 07/30 10:27
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31F:推 silviasun:推n大翻译~ 07/30 11:47
32F:推 qfyjke54:很感人的留言 感谢!! 07/30 12:51
33F:推 rutenac:谢谢noral大分享,谢谢! 07/30 12:55
34F:推 supergigi:我对这位衣服有着lin lin lin印象深刻 07/30 14:06
35F:推 HUANnn:谢谢 07/30 14:39
36F:推 leroialice:镜头在他身上停好久,我也以为他是个名人,很有架势XD 07/30 16:04
37F:推 admorert:以为是名人+1 想再大喊一次:某些媒体和球迷应该感到羞愧 07/30 16:14
38F:推 Adonisy:push push 07/30 20:25