作者happyeg (追风Party)
看板JasonKidd
标题[乳摸] 关於小牛和篮网的RJ的动态。
时间Sat Jun 14 10:50:51 2008
If Detroit is dealing, here are six trades that work
A visibly emotional Joe Dumars said last week that changes were coming in
Detroit after another painful loss in the Eastern Conference finals. Despite
the Pistons' regular-season success, Dumars was no longer happy with the
direction his franchise was heading.
Dumars isn't a man of many words. When he speaks, people listen. His team got
the message and so did everyone else in the league -- he was putting the core
of his team on the market.
He wants to rebuild his team while still competing for championships. In
particular, Dumars is looking to receive impact players while making the
Pistons younger.
For the past week, his phone has been ringing off the hook. Most teams covet
what the Pistons have -- seasoned veterans who put their team over personal
agendas and know how to win.
Dumars knows that, too, and he's driving a hard bargain.
"I will say this. We're not talking to teams about their second- and
third-best player," Dumars said on Tuesday. "My point has been, 'Look, if I'm
going to put these guys on the market, then don't waste your time talking
about guys you don't like.' That's where it is now. Nothing is imminent. But
I've talked to at least 10 teams."
He's sitting in a pretty good position. The Pistons have a number of assets
that they can put together in trades.
Chauncey Billups is an elite point guard whose contract, while long, is
pretty reasonable at $10 million per year. Richard Hamilton is a 20 ppg
scorer who has two years and $23 million left on his deal. Tayshaun Prince is
a rangy defender who can guard multiple positions on the floor. He has three
years, $30 million left on his deal. Rasheed Wallace may be an enigma, but
he's in the last year of his contract and could still be valuable for a
playoff team.
The only player off limits is rookie Rodney Stuckey, who's being groomed to
take over for Billups or Hamilton at guard.
So exactly what kind of deal might Dumars be able to pull off?
I spoke with a few executives around the league to get an idea of what
Detroit's opportunities are. Here are a few scenarios that could make sense
for both Dumars and his trading partners:
1. Denver's Carmelo Anthony, Chucky Atkins and No. 20 pick for Billups and
Prince
2. Utah's Carlos Boozer, Ronnie Brewer, Jarron Collins and Morris Almond for
Hamilton, Prince and Arron Afflalo
3. Dallas' Josh Howard for Tayshaun Prince or Richard Hamilton
4. Charlotte's Gerald Wallace, Adam Morrison, Sean May and No. 9 pick for
Rasheed Wallace and Tayshaun Prince
5. New Jersey's Richard Jefferson, Nenad Krstic (via sign-and-trade) and No.10
pick for Rasheed Wallace and Tayshaun Prince
6. Houston's Tracy McGrady and No. 25 pick for Rip Hamilton and Rasheed
以上是转录ESPN Chad Ford的文笔!
(不会缩址...抱歉先!)
当然重点是在第3和第5项!
首先先来评论NO.3:
和之前传闻的的其实没两样...但是...换RIP个人觉得还好...
换王子来实在是下下策...他的能力全部都是在刚好...并没有非常突出的能力!
也就是说...要比全能没KIDD好...比准度也没司机好...
要比防守...豪儿不会处弱势...可王子进攻能力(平均15分左右...)
切入也没本来的豪儿强势...反王子!(不是棒棒堂那个欧!)
整个就很不适合小牛就对了啦...换RIP不错支持...换王子...反对!反对!再反对!
其实最主要是...长相问题...XD...(谁叫你们那年要淘汰篮网...不爽你们很久了!)
再来就NO.5罗:
完全反对...弱希蛙的能力...和普林斯比较其实只是一个投篮叫准...
一个较为防守面罢了...
绝不适合篮网!不如去赌小欧...
筹码换现在的小欧应该可以...我是觉得宁愿去赌小欧(起码他适合现况没禁区的篮网)
,换一个没体能又爱头外线防守马马虎虎的人来...真的不如去赌小欧...
(换一个甚麽都可以但又没有甚麽可以拿来主打的人...也很麻烦!)
Ford: RJ to Pistons Makes Sense
http://netsdaily.com/
不是没人找了只能找这种冠军队被淘汰准备重整的球队的球员!
Elton Brand目前也处於情况未明!再次强调...
交易来一些不适合的...将会比本来还糟...
学学塞尔迪克吧!湖人也是!找到对的人!才能有好的效果!
找到错误的人...给再多的时间!也是浪费!
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1F:推 KIDD7576:谢谢分享~ 06/14 11:10
2F:→ popstarkirby:事实上3应该是小牛赚....Prince在活塞是第3~4得分点 06/14 12:54
3F:→ popstarkirby:得分不高是正常的。不过没实际打过也难评断交易的优 06/14 12:54
4F:→ popstarkirby:劣。Prince在市场上满有价值倒是真的 06/14 12:55
5F:→ popstarkirby:湖人那交易是可遇不可求了....如果山猫送小牛Okafor 06/14 12:56
6F:→ popstarkirby:小牛也会瞬间变超强 06/14 12:56
7F:推 woodtwoday:我觉得NO5也是篮网赚,基本上小克跟希蛙已经有些许差 06/14 14:14
8F:→ woodtwoday:异了,RJ跟王子个人觉得没有差太多,整体篮网应该是小 06/14 14:15
9F:→ woodtwoday:赚,但是就感情理由,不换我也不反对,因为不会差太多 06/14 14:15
10F:→ woodtwoday:若是赌小欧,我宁愿用NO.5的方式 06/14 14:16
11F:推 jazz123457:如果小牛换Hamilton那真的会变成正港的跳投部队....... 06/14 17:28
12F:→ happyeg:王子换豪儿...干嘛??明明防守能力差不多!进攻面豪儿胜出 06/14 19:22
13F:→ happyeg:,搞不懂为何要把85分的人去换个75分的人?? 06/14 19:22
14F:→ happyeg:至於NO.5...球风有差哪里赚了???哈里斯&VC会适合防守型球 06/14 19:23
15F:→ happyeg:风吗??我不觉得耶... 06/14 19:24
16F:→ happyeg:豪换RIP至少进攻端不会差到哪!虽说防守端会有问题! 06/14 19:25
17F:→ happyeg:但是进攻端加上RIP球风问题!交易是还有谈判的空间! 06/14 19:26
18F:→ happyeg:但如果是去换王子...干嘛??和KIDD抢全能的欧??? 06/14 19:26
19F:→ popstarkirby:相信我,这样换的到的话小牛稳赚的。Prince被低估了 06/14 19:50
20F:→ popstarkirby:就算他不适合小牛,也非常具有交易价值。重点是 06/14 19:50
21F:→ popstarkirby:活塞应该是不会换,薪资不知道有没有合就是 06/14 19:51
22F:→ popstarkirby:只是这交易不会改善任何问题,对活塞也没好处。所以 06/14 19:54
23F:→ popstarkirby:看看就好了。 06/14 19:54
24F:推 jazz123457:王子的防守应该是比豪儿还要好 06/14 22:18
25F:推 chocobos:我会觉得王子的功能性强过豪儿耶 尤其是关键时类似季後赛 06/15 14:50
26F:推 purplecoldly:Prince跟Kidd不会有冲突吧?而且Prince稳定性很高, 06/16 01:09
27F:→ purplecoldly:比起Howard多靠单打,也许他会更适合Kidd也不一定。 06/16 01:10
28F:推 familycut:Pirnce很强吧 被你讲的一文不值 06/16 13:19
29F:推 tatata:Prince很强吧 基本上是联盟很顶尖的摇摆人大锁了 06/16 17:44
30F:→ tatata:小豪的防守 真的比不上Prince 06/16 17:45
31F:→ tatata:而且活塞有时熄火 还是靠Prince撑住进攻火力的 06/16 17:46
32F:→ tatata:切入 靠近篮框的小抛投 外线三分 其实都还不错 06/16 17:46
33F:推 tatata:小豪换RIP其实也不错 不过这样小牛的SF就不晓得要摆谁了 06/16 17:49
34F:→ happyeg:谁跟你说得一文不值了...只是她和豪儿比!还有差距咧! 06/16 20:04
35F:→ happyeg:别因为豪儿季末&季後赛的表现就否定他!他绝对有A+小前锋 06/16 20:05
36F:→ happyeg:的水准!王子不好意思...个人觉得最多最多就A! 06/16 20:06
37F:→ happyeg:A+与A有差吧! 06/16 20:06
38F:→ happyeg:豪儿也许如大家看法一样防守不如王子!但进攻就有差距罗! 06/16 20:08
39F:→ happyeg:然而防守个人觉得既使王子较强!但是能强个多少??差距颇进 06/16 20:08
40F:→ happyeg:,而相较於进攻面!豪儿算是胜出不少欧!切入&跳投! 06/16 20:09
41F:→ happyeg:急停&单打!豪儿再进攻方面胜出的我想比在防守面输掉的还 06/16 20:10
42F:→ happyeg:多...所以总评:豪儿是强於王子的! 06/16 20:10
43F:→ happyeg:不要因为他是冠军队的加持就把王子捧上天! 06/16 20:13
44F:→ happyeg:要把全联盟小前锋列出来比较!LBJ MATRIX 豪儿 C巴特勒 06/16 20:14
45F:→ happyeg:安东尼 包皮 篮网RJ 个人觉得这些能力都在王子之上! 06/16 20:17
46F:推 familycut:你有看过他的比赛嘛 你知道他的防守吗 你知道活赛打法嘛 06/16 22:42
47F:推 jazz123457:但是豪儿如果不能改变打法融入团队即使他进攻再强对小 06/17 00:03
48F:→ jazz123457:牛的进攻也是一种伤害也会让kidd组织攻势时伤脑筋,老实 06/17 00:04
49F:→ jazz123457:说豪儿的确是联盟中全能SF的其中之ㄧ,但他的打法老实说 06/17 00:05
50F:→ jazz123457:我觉得想起流川枫......... 06/17 00:06
51F:推 popstarkirby:楼上说的没错。不过老实说...目前看来Kidd的组织力 06/17 10:57
52F:→ popstarkirby:影响也不深就是。Howard只有改变打法或走人这两条路 06/17 10:58
53F:→ popstarkirby:可以选了。 06/17 10:58
54F:→ popstarkirby:就算Josh每场20分7篮板,Kidd每晚10助攻,最後输球都 06/17 10:59
55F:→ popstarkirby:是没意义的。 06/17 10:59
56F:→ happyeg:回familycut大!就是因为看过几场!所以才下此定论... 06/17 20:09
57F:→ happyeg:没错!豪儿整体评论下来优於普林斯王子! 06/17 20:10
58F:→ happyeg:85分与80分!虽然很接近!但是!就是有差! 06/17 20:11
59F:→ happyeg:我很清楚!王子是班蛙之後活塞最重要的防守武器!在活塞防 06/17 20:11
60F:→ happyeg:手体系下王子扮演着很重要的角色...这我知道...但我现在是 06/17 20:12
61F:→ happyeg:再讲「整体上谁比较强」!再强调一次!是豪儿比较强! 06/17 20:12
62F:→ happyeg:pop大讲的有理!但是??为什麽要因为想交易而交易... 06/17 20:15
63F:→ happyeg:明明最适合换来的是MATRIX...干嘛硬是想交易而交易呢?? 06/17 20:16
64F:→ happyeg:既然目标很难到手...那我是觉得再换也未必能换到同等价值 06/17 20:16
65F:→ happyeg:豪儿的球员...那不如不要换...反正有整个暑假的时间可以去 06/17 20:17
66F:→ happyeg:摩合... 06/17 20:17
67F:→ happyeg:而且加上换了教练罗...个人是觉得...小牛今年的「对外」 06/17 20:23
68F:→ happyeg:如果无法达到目的...那乾脆以不变来顺应万变... 06/17 20:23
69F:→ popstarkirby:个人是觉得小牛在现在西区不变的话...相对是变弱... 06/17 21:30
70F:→ popstarkirby:反正就如同我上面说的..不是补强就是交易了 06/17 21:30
71F:→ popstarkirby:小牛这暑假只有7张合,约表示有8个位置可以选。 06/17 21:30
72F:→ popstarkirby:但这7张合约已经用掉80M了...所以没薪资空间了 06/17 21:31
73F:→ popstarkirby:要说的话,应该说Howard球风比较适合小牛,但打不出 06/17 21:32
74F:→ popstarkirby:东西还是没用,所以看球队怎样了 06/17 21:32
75F:推 kaede0711:小王子绝对不比豪儿差啊...而且如楼上所说要改最好全改 06/18 20:14
76F:→ kaede0711:而且豪儿这样打跟kidd完全搭不起来不换就看新教练怎样调 06/18 20:21