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标题Fw: [外絮] NBA历史上伟大的控球後卫
时间Tue Apr 2 22:59:27 2013
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作者: hao5566 (五六##) 看板: NBA
标题: [外絮] NBA历史上伟大的控球後卫
时间: Tue Apr 2 22:22:25 2013
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The point guard position in the NBA is something that has been in a
constantly dynamic state from the days of Bob Coust to Magic Johnson and now
players like Kyrie Irving and Russell Westbrook. There are the traditionally
small, pass-first point guards (Rajon Rondo, Chris Paul) and the players like
Irving and Rose who are multi-faceted and are coveted for their ability to
facilitate for others but also create for themselves. The greatest NBA point
guards of all time may vary wildly in how they played the game but one thing
is for sure: all fit the bill as excellent ball-handlers.
NBA中的PG总是在不断的变换下持续着,从过去的Bob Coust到Magic
到现在的Kyrie Irving和Russell Westbrook。
NBA中有传统小只的、传球优先的控球後卫(像是Rajon Rondo,CP3)
和像Irving和Rose这样拥有令人称羡的进攻手段的多面向球员。
NBA伟大的控球後卫从以前到现在,就其如何统御比赛有很大的改变,
但其中有一项却是恒久不变的:他们都是一流的持球者。
So, while there is an extensive list of great NBA point guards, here are the
top 10 of all time:
从这麽多伟大的後卫中,我们挑了选出了前十名:
10. Gary Payton
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
16.3 3.9 6.7 1.8 .466 .729 .317 1335
The Glove had a long and impressive career that only saw one championship
because there was only really one team that won the Finals in the 1990s.
While Tony Parker may give him a run for his money on this 10-spot, Payton
was a premiere defensive point guard who earned a spot on nine All-Defensive
First Teams and won the 1996 Defensive Player of the Year award.
The Glove经历了一段长且令人印象深刻的深涯,虽然只得到
了一座冠军(毕竟1990年代真正的冠军就只有那一队)
虽然我们也想选Tony Parker当第十名,但Payton是首位防守PG
获选9次防守第一队和赢得1996年最佳防守者头衔的球员。
9. Walt Frazier
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
18.9 5.9 6.1 1.9 .490 .786 N/A 825
A significant cog in the two championships that the New York Knicks won in
the early 70s, Frazier put up an incredible 36 points and dished out 19 dimes
in Game 7 of the 1970 Finals. Like Payton, Frazier was also known for his
ability to force turnovers and was named to seven All-Defensive First Teams.
纽约尼克队在70年代早期获得两座冠军的重要齿轮,Frazier在1970
总冠军赛第七场时,贡献了不可思议的36分以及送出了19个助攻。
就像Payton一样,Frazier也擅长让对手发生失误,也因此获选了七次
防守第一队。
8. Steve Nash
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
14.4 3.0 8.5 0.7 .491 .904 .428 1201
Now that we’ve covered our basis on the point guards that played defense, it
’s time to get into some that were not quite as involved on that side of the
basketball (it's a joke...well, maybe not). Nash is known for being a
relatively lackadaisical defender but his two MVP awards outshine those
deficits. Although he may never win that first NBA championship, Nash was an
incredible point guard who could thread the needle with the best passers of
all time.
上两位球员都是防守相当厉害的PG,现在该是时候不要再谈论
该类型的PG了。Nash的防守能力之相对不好是众所皆知的,但
他的两次MVP殊荣却能完全掩盖之。虽然Nash从未得到他第一座
的冠军奖盃,但他在球场上穿针引线的传球功力确实让他成为了
不可思议的後卫传奇。
7. Allen Iverson
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
26.7 3.7 6.2 2.2 .425 .780 .313 914
Too many lists that I’ve read have not given enough love to this guy. I’ll
admit that I was never a huge fan of Iverson during his playing days…well
maybe aside from this. But there is no denying his greatness; The Answer made
the crossover an art and was arguably the best basketball player
pound-for-pound at 6’0”. His style of play doesn't exactly scream "point
guard" but Iverson was the prelude to players today like Westbrook, Irving,
Parker, and Derrick Rose who aren't PGs in the traditional sense. In terms of
legacy, AI’s at seven but if you ask me who I’d draft as a GM, Iverson as a
rookie or in his prime is easily in the top-five.
很多伟大球员的排名表上常常没有AI的名字,这实在对他太没爱了
我承认我从来不是他的粉丝,但他的伟大却是无庸置疑的:
The Answer把cross over提升为艺术的境界,而且可以说是在6尺0寸
中最棒的篮球员。Ierson的打法并无法完全撑得上是一名後卫,
但他却是今日後卫,诸如RW,Irving,Tony Parker,Rose的先行者。
在他所留下来的数据下,他是第七名。但如果我是GM,遇到AI正值
Rookie或者全盛时期的他的话,他绝对是前五名。
6. Jason Kidd
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
12.7 6.3 8.7 1.9 .400 .785 .349 1380
Although he never had the flashiness of Iverson’s scoring or Nash’s
passing, Jason Kidd has been the model of consistency for nearly two decades
in the NBA. For the vast majority of his career, he was known as a pass-first
point guard but even improved his outside shooting after joining Dirk
Nowitzki in Dallas during 2008. After adding an NBA title to a host of other
accomplishments (All-Star appearances, league leading assist numbers, First
Team awards both All-NBA and All-Defensive), he solidified his legacy with
the greatest of all time.
尽管Kidd没有像AI一样闪电般的得分能力,也没有像Nash一样
出神入化的传球能力,Kidd是二十年NBA持久性的模范。
在他的生涯大部份时间里,他是一名传统的传球型後卫,但也
在加入2008年的小牛队後,提高了他的外围投射能力。
在为他的其他伟大成就添了一笔"NBA总冠军"之後,他巩固了他
在NBA伟大历史中的地位
5. Bob Cousy
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
18.4 5.2 7.5 N/A .375 .803 N/A 924
The man who ran point for Bill Russell’s 60s Celtics boasts six rings and an
MVP award. He led the NBA in assists for eight consecutive years and was
known for flashy “street ball”-type moves. Even though his field goal
percentage verged on terrible, the star PG was named to an incredible 10
All-NBA First Teams. Cousy dominated a generation of basketball and put up
astounding assist numbers despite the fact that there was no shot clock in
the early 50s.
这男人是在Bill Russell所待的60年代赛尔提克队的得分炮手,
而他为塞尔提克得到了6座冠军,自己也拥有MVP头衔。
他当助攻王当了连续八年,而且他也因其华丽的街篮风格而出名。
尽管他的FG%濒临让人崩溃的境界,他还是被提名了10次NBA第一队。
尽管50年代早期根本没有计时器,Cousy还是统治了当代的NBA,并
且缔造了惊人的助攻数。
4. Isiah Thomas
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
19.2 3.6 9.3 1.9 .452 .759 .290 979
Although his post-playing career has proven to be less than impressive, Isiah
Thomas led the “Bad Boys” to back-to-back NBA championships in 1989 and
1990. Not only that but in the 1988 NBA Finals, Thomas had one of the
greatest playoff performances of all time after a third quarter ankle sprain
(albeit in a losing effort). He owns most of the statistical records in
Detroit and nearly averaged 20 points and 10 assists for his career.
尽管Isiah Thomas的生涯後期并不如前期那样惊艳,他仍然是个
曾经带领Bad Boys军团在1989和1990连续两年获得NBA总冠军的强
大球员。且除了上述表现之外,他在1988的总冠军战,在第三节
的脚踝扭伤候,打出了NBA史上最伟大的表现之一。
他的统计记录大多是来自底特律,生涯平均接近20分10助攻。
3. John Stockton
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
13.1 2.7 10.5 2.2 .515 .826 .384 1504
John Stockton is the best traditional point guard in NBA history. With the
all-time NBA records in both assists (15,806) and steals (3,265), he and Karl
Malone tore up the Western conference during the 90s. Known as the ultimate
pick and roll point man, he also was able to score at an incredibly efficient
rate (over 50 percent from the field and 38 percent from three).
John Stockton是NBA史上最棒的传统型後卫。他带着总共15,806
个助攻和3,265个抄截,和Malone粉碎了90年代的西区。
被认为是最会pick and roll的男人,他缴出了惊人的效率。
(超过50%的FG和38%的3PT)
2. Oscar Robertson
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
25.7 7.5 9.5 N/A .485 .838 N/A 1040
Often considered the LeBron James of his day, Oscar Robertson was a do-it-all
point guard. At 6’5”, the Big O averaged a triple-double for an entire
season. Not only that but he was less than a half a rebound or assist away
from averaging one in three more seasons. Often considered one of the most
well-rounded players in NBA history, he also has the hardware (NBA champion
and MVP) to back up his case as one of the greatest.
常被认为是当时代的LBJ,Robertson是个所有功课都做尽的PG。
身高6尺五,Big O平均成绩接近大三元。他被认为是NBA历史上
最全面的球员,并且他还拥有NBA冠军和MVP殊荣替他背书。
1. Magic Johnson
Points Rebounds Assists Steals FG% FT% 3PT% Games played
19.5 7.2 11.2 1.9 .520 .848 .303 906
Five-time NBA champion, three-time MVP, nine-time All-NBA First Team,
four-time NBA assists leader…Magic Johnson is up there as one of the
greatest NBA players of all time. He is the best point guard of all time
without a doubt. At 6’9”, he was quite a bit more versatile than most PGs
(who were a solid half-foot shorter) but the No. 1 overall pick in the 1979
NBA Draft had a career that was great from the get-go. The only rookie ever
to win the Finals MVP award, he finished off the 76ers in the 1980 Finals
with 42 points, 15 rebounds, seven assists, and three steals…as the starting
center.
五次NBA总冠军,三次MVP,九次入选NBA第一队,四次NBA助攻王,
他是NBA史上最伟大的PG,Magic Johnson。六尺九寸的身高,他是
个比其他PG都还多才多艺的球员,并且也是1979年的状元郎。
他也是唯一一个Rookie就得到Final MVP的球员,而且在1980年对上
76人的总冠军战中,以42分15篮板7助攻3抄截终结了他们,而且是
以先发中锋的身分...
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注1:
Payton got his nickname "The Glove" when Payton's cousin called him during
the 1993 Western Conference Finals series against Phoenix and told him,
"you're holding Kevin Johnson like a baseball in a glove," and the nickname
was born.
在1993西部决赛对上凤凰城的时候,Payton的cousin说他的表现就像是
掌握Kevin Johnson就像掌握颗在手套中的棒球一样。这就是他昵称的由来。
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心得:
之前看过MAGIC的纪录片和比赛影片,
真的是刚进NBA就变成球队的球星...
完全看不出是菜鸟...
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1F:嘘 Sadan :Magic Oscar Jerry Isiah 04/02 22:24
2F:推 a123647 :都是神 04/02 22:24
3F:推 meng3523 :MAGIC可以说是最有天分的球员嘛? 04/02 22:25
4F:推 carotyao :这十个最厉害的是每个人都有自己的绝招... 04/02 22:26
5F:推 iamchyun :混进两名中锋? 04/02 22:26
6F:→ carotyao :写其他四个位置要写十个人 绝招好像容易重叠XD 04/02 22:26
7F:推 semicoma :Kidd那段在讲什麽 = = 04/02 22:27
8F:推 lesnaree2 :没有5冠0.4的Fisher? 04/02 22:27
9F:推 hump :泪推没有Mark Price 04/02 22:27
10F:嘘 polarg :怎麽没有五冠老渔? 五冠耶! 04/02 22:28
11F:嘘 gayfockerisu:乱排 04/02 22:28
12F:→ iio :AI算控卫 = =?? 04/02 22:28
13F:→ semicoma :召唤Price大 04/02 22:28
14F:推 jackthegreat:这篇文是古生物图监 04/02 22:28
15F:推 darrenyo :私心觉得Nash可以再往前一点QQ 都没提到 最准 04/02 22:28
16F:推 izacc :当然是LOGO人阿 到处都有他 04/02 22:28
17F:嘘 linyi520 :AI 是SG吧 04/02 22:28
18F:嘘 hazel0093 :吴宝春 04/02 22:29
19F:→ carotyao :他明明就有写他排AI的理由.... 04/02 22:29
20F:推 EricLee0719 :没有史上最__的MVP 最佳销货员ROSE吗 04/02 22:30
21F:推 ievolfun :现在几乎没传统控卫了吧 都是混合体 04/02 22:31
22F:→ linyi520 : 双能卫 04/02 22:31
23F:→ White1stMan :这种主观排名 每个人都能排一篇 04/02 22:31
24F:推 stevefran :排的好 04/02 22:32
25F:→ kaede0711 :把CP3拉进来换掉AI,再跟GP对调一下,就差不多了 04/02 22:32
26F:→ kc0059 :不太认同kidd没Nash的传球能力.. 04/02 22:33
27F:→ kaede0711 :AI还是排在SG榜中会比较适合 04/02 22:33
28F:→ kaede0711 :而且Kidd一点都不传统啊XD 04/02 22:33
29F:推 darrenyo :赞成楼上 AI主要的成就是在SG这个位置吧 04/02 22:33
30F:嘘 RickyRubio09:他排Kidd排的很委屈似的 04/02 22:34
31F:推 KKyosuke :他应该是说Nash传球比较华丽(? 04/02 22:34
32F:→ shwkz :AI感觉是SG啊 Nash? 噗 他那残破的防守也能上榜... 04/02 22:34
33F:推 newtypeL9 :老史的数据不知道要挂多久才会被破.... 04/02 22:35
34F:→ IBIZA :Kidd 这麽前面? 04/02 22:35
35F:→ shwkz :Payton比他强多了 要不是和Jordan生在同一时代... 04/02 22:35
36F:→ White1stMan :一直觉得这种文章立场超摇摆的 随作者怎麽写怎麽排 04/02 22:35
37F:推 DoraShort :AI只有08在金块那年打法比较偏向PG吧..其他都算SG 04/02 22:37
38F:推 minga0102 :Nash比AI还低 呵呵 04/02 22:37
39F:推 deeptrance :原文的意思应该是Kidd的传球没有Nash那麽华丽 04/02 22:37
40F:推 darrenyo :Nash就是有实力靠进攻端弥补他防守端的不足 04/02 22:37
41F:推 Aggro :这种榜大多看入选和第一 剩下只是个人喜好而已 04/02 22:39
42F:推 motoman :Kidd写的... 04/02 22:41
43F:→ Spartan117 :魔术强森根本是个无法理解的生物 04/02 22:43
44F:推 oldTim :Nash大器晚成,生涯前期的表现拉低平均可以理解 04/02 22:43
45F:推 unico002 :AI在76人把Snow交易掉之後就蛮偏PG了 只是得分太强 04/02 22:43
46F:推 ck950643 :不认为AI有前十 04/02 22:43
47F:推 dolls3969 :这只是个人看法 没有正确答案 04/02 22:43
48F:推 ssskav :logo man 哭哭 04/02 22:44
49F:→ dolls3969 :West 好像是得分後卫 04/02 22:44
50F:推 IB1ZA : 第二行 是bob coust是谁啊? 好像没有听过也 04/02 22:46
51F:推 shyshy :楼上..... 就 Bob Cousy 04/02 22:47
52F:推 tim1991 :应该是BOB COUSY 原文也打错了 04/02 22:47
53F:→ kaede0711 :logo man也是被人家认为是SG 04/02 22:48
54F:→ y3k :AI排进来的话LBJ早就该排进来了XD 04/02 22:50
55F:推 aresa :NASH没有冠军戒才会这麽低 04/02 22:50
56F:推 IB1ZA : 另外,没有jerry west 而有AI,这是三小 04/02 22:51
57F:→ kaede0711 :传统五位子的难处,跨位置的球员越来越多 04/02 22:52
58F:→ kaede0711 :双能卫,摇摆人,中前锋型的球员很多 04/02 22:52
59F:→ kaede0711 :所以这种历史排名除了几个经典的以外,名单会有争议 04/02 22:53
60F:→ leo6315 :笑笑汤可是唯一击败过MJ 魔术 大鸟的男人 第四有点低 04/02 22:53
61F:→ kaede0711 :笑笑汤在ESPN的排名中,是排在老史前面 04/02 22:55
62F:推 ssskav :笑笑汤树敌太多才被排除在梦幻队之外?XD 04/02 22:56
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