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※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板] 作者: IamBeasley (Beasley) 看板: NBA 标题: [新闻] ESPN:太阳是否抢劫了? 时间: Thu Dec 11 22:50:20 2008 Phoenix Suns GM Steve Kerr has faced a lot of questions during his short stewardship of the Suns, but the only question to ask after Wednesday's trade with Charlotte is whether he was wearing a ski mask. The deal for Jason Richardson, Jared Dudley and a 2010 second-round pick cost him only Raja Bell, Boris Diaw and Sean Singletary, and it immediately restores the Suns' flagging hopes of breaking back into the West's upper crust. For that, he can thank Bobcats coach Larry Brown. This is the danger when you hire Larry -- that he'll almost immediately want to trade everyone on his roster and that the people in charge won't have enough spine or clout to wave off his requests. Clearly, the Bobcats don't qualify on the latter point. This has all the markings of a Larry deal, as he's trading a proven scorer for a veteran role player he has coached before (Bell). Besides, nobody finds it plausible that Michael Jordan slipped away from the golf course long enough to broker a five-player trade -- clearly his trigger-happy coach was the one providing the impetus. 太阳总管Steve Kerr上任没多就遇到不少问题,周三这笔与山猫的交易後,现在 只有一个问题:"他们有抢劫山猫吗?" 太阳得到了Richardson,Dudley和2010年第二轮选秀权,但他们只送出Bell,Diaw和 Singletary,这可能会让太阳马上变回西区强权. 对於这些,太阳队可以好好感谢山猫教头Larry Brown,因为老布朗说过他可以 交易阵中的任何一名球员,而山猫高层也几乎不反驳他的提议. 很明显的,这次山猫也同样没有拒绝老布朗的提案,这可能要算在他身上一笔, 用已经证明能飙分的好手换来他以前执教过的球员(Bell).这笔五人交易应该没有人 会联想到MJ,因为他现在正忙着在果岭上玩耍,显而易见的这笔交易完全是老布朗一手 促成的. So this time, it's Charlotte fans asking the questions. For starters, why did the team include Dudley? The trade worked without him, and he's an inexpensive quality performer because he's still on his rookie contract. A bigger question, however, is this one: How are the Bobcats going to score? They were 26th in the NBA in offensive efficiency, and were 30th before Richardson came back from an early-season injury. To trade him for two role players essentially damns Charlotte to finish at or near the bottom of the league in offense -- it's inconceivable that the team could replace his 21.3 points per 40 minutes with the likes of Bell and Diaw. Richardson also is a great fit in Phoenix, especially if the Suns revert to playing more up-tempo. He's a high-flying finisher in transition, but he also led the NBA in 3-pointers made last season and is hitting 45.6 percent on 3s this season. With post threats Amare Stoudemire and Shaquille O'Neal to set him up, one shudders to think how many triples he can rain in with the Suns. 因此这一次轮到山猫球迷来发问了。首先要问的是,为什麽球队要把Dudley 交易掉?即使是不加上他,交易也不会因此失败,而且他还是领新秀的合约,所以他是 一个物超所值的球员。 尽管如此,这里还有一个更大的疑问就是:山猫接下来如何得分?他们的进攻 效率在NBA联盟已经是排在第26名,甚至在赛季初期理Richardson因伤还未归队之前, 他们曾经排在联盟倒数第一名. 如今把他交易出去而换来了两个角色球员,一定会让山 猫原本就很糟糕的进攻再次成为联盟最差.很难想像球队会用一个平均出场40分钟能得 21.3分的球员来换Bell 和 Diaw. 很适合太阳的球风,特别是太阳打算重新玩小球的时候。他非常善於在进攻转换 中得分,同时他上个球季还在NBA的三分排行榜相当出色,本赛季他的三分球命中率高达 45.6%.太阳的内线有Stoudemire和大欧,他们的牵制力足以让Richardson完全爆发,很难 想像他会在太阳如何地狂喷三分了. Dudley is 23 but plays much older -- he's a subpar athlete but a smart, strong combo forward with a knack for rebounding and scoring around the basket. The second-year forward figures to fill Diaw's role as a reserve forward, though it's possible he could supplant Matt Barnes at small forward if he plays well. From Charlotte's end, Diaw is the key to the deal. Theoretically, he solves the team's glaring hole at power forward, though in practice he's hardly bigger than Dudley. Although he's an undersized 4, he's capable of defending the position and can take advantage of slower bigs at the other end with his ballhandling skill. However, Diaw is a mediocre shooter and a reluctant scorer; in this sense, he strongly resembles another former Brown favorite, Derrick McKey. Bell had been visibly declining over the past two seasons and is probably better suited to a bench role at this point in his career. That might happen if the Bobcats opt to use D.J. Augustin and Raymond Felton together in the backcourt. Brown will value Bell's feistiness, but his offensive output and lateral movement aren't what they once were. Charlotte gets one other benefit -- a $5.4 million cap savings in the key summer of 2010, thanks to Bell's expiring contract. If the Bobcats don't re-sign Felton, May or Adam Morrison, they could be about $12 million under a projected cap of $60 million (the exact amount would depend on the salary slot for next year's draft pick); although it's highly unlikely that a LeBron James or Chris Bosh would choose the Queen City, several lesser stars also will be on the market that summer. Dudley仅仅23岁,但他打球相当成熟,虽然运动能力不突出,可是他打得相当聪明 ,他在篮下能得分且有篮板能力,是个不错的摇摆人.如果他表现不错的话,他足以弥补 Diaw离开的空缺,虽然他也许还是只能当Barnes的替补. 从山猫的角度来看,Diaw是这笔交易的关键。理论上来说,他弥补了球队大前锋 位置上的漏洞,然而事实上他并没有比Dudley高多少。尽管他是个小号的大前锋, 但是他有能力防守这个位置上的球员,并且在进攻时,他能充分利用自己成熟的持球 技巧来攻击对方速度慢的长人。尽管如此,Diaw只算是一个平凡的射手,一个很勉强 的得分手;从这个角度上来看,他真的很像以前布朗的最爱:Derrick McKey。 Bell在过去的两个赛季里明显衰退,也许在他职业生涯的这个阶段,更加适合 他的位置是替补。如果山猫排除D.J. Augustin 和Raymond Felton的後场组合的话, 那麽上面所说的就会成为事实.老布朗肯定会物尽其用,充分考虑Bell的能力,但是他在 进攻端的贡献以及横向移动方面已经大不如前了。 山猫还会有一个其他的好处.在2010年的夏天将会得到540万的薪资空间,因为 Bell的合约2010年刚好到期。如果山猫那时也不和Felton,May或 Morrison续约的话, 他们可以低於薪资门槛6000万,而有着约1200万的空间,虽然James 和 Bosh不太可能来 山猫,但是也有其他不错的自由球员. But in the short term, Kerr is the one who saves his employers a few ducats with this deal. The new players make nearly $1 million less than the old ones in 2008-09, and that amount doubles because the Suns are over the luxury-tax line. Although a portion of that advantage will go away once Phoenix signs another player to meet league roster requirements, the team still comes out ahead on the deal. Perhaps the best thing about this deal is that it's a turning point away from the Suns' recent fascination with being a bad imitation of the Spurs. Instead, it marks a move back toward the running, gunning style that had them near the top in the first place. Bell and Diaw were arguably Phoenix's two best defenders (though that's a backhanded compliment these days), and Richardson's explosiveness has never translated terribly well into the quick, short steps needed for effective D. In the wake of his trade, look for the Suns to re-establish themselves as an elite offensive team and try to overwhelm teams with their scoring prowess. With four big-time offensive players in the starting lineup and a fifth potent scorer (Leandro Barbosa) coming off the bench, it doesn't seem implausible that they could lead the league in offensive efficiency in the final three-quarters of the season. If so, those "What's wrong with Phoenix?" questions might quickly become a distant memory. 短期来看,Kerr经这笔交易替太阳省下不少钱,之前08-09赛季他们省了100多万, 可是应该要加倍去算,因为他们超过豪华税门槛,假使他们为了让阵中球员达到一定 数目而去签其他人的话,这麽省钱的目的便不会这麽明显,但是对他们还是有益的. 太阳来说,最好的莫过於脱离现在的苦境,他们曾经想学马刺的球风,但是到头 来还是要走他们的不归路:跑轰.Bell和Diaw是太阳阵中不用争议的防守高手,虽然他们最 近常被开汽水,而Richardson从未在防守上被证明过. 这笔交易之後,我们期待着太阳能在次重回联盟中最会得分的球队,用得分让对 手崩溃,太阳的先发有4位是一流的攻击好手,而第5位Barbosa也会从板凳上爆发,不难想 像他们会在剩余的3/4球季在得分排行榜排第一. 假如一切真如所说,那麽"What's wrong with Phoenix?" 这个疑问 将会永远成为人们心中的回忆. -- █◣◢█ ███◣ MIAMI HEAT ◥█ ψBrandonRoy █◣ █◣ █◥◤█ █◣ █◣ █◣ █ ◢█◣ ◢◤ █ █ ◢◤ ◥◣ ◤◢ █◢◥█ █ █◤◢ ◥█ ◥◣ █◤ ◥◤ █ ◥█◤ ▅ █ ███◤ ◥█◤ ██ ◥█◤ █◤ █◤ --



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◆ From: 220.136.188.22 ※ 编辑: IamBeasley 来自: 220.136.188.22 (12/11 22:56)
1F:推 AdrianYu:太阳真的赚吗!!? 看官们...........咱们往下看......... 12/11 22:52
2F:推 ATSEVEN:有点搞不懂了 是抢劫的话 板上怎骂太阳总管骂得跟什麽一样 12/11 22:52
3F:推 kulama:真有趣 人家在讲太阳是否抢劫。 12/11 22:52
4F:推 oicecnir:科科:我又想打跑轰了..打我啊笨蛋.. 12/11 22:53
5F:推 larson:太阳现在最大的问题应该是Nash下场後半场谁组织吧?Hill吗? 12/11 22:53
6F:推 derekhsu:科科难得做出不错的交易,不必理不懂得人 12/11 22:54
7F:→ oicecnir:可能是因为只要科科作了什麽交易就会想先开骂吧!! 12/11 22:54
8F:推 Alano:因为大家都希望太阳打小球 问题是教练不知道是不是这麽想... 12/11 22:55
9F:推 hihi28:看到科科交易 都要先批评一下才会显示出乡民的专业 12/11 22:55
10F:推 Jacobsen:不骂科科非好汉 (你落伍了吗 12/11 22:55
※ 编辑: IamBeasley 来自: 220.136.188.22 (12/11 23:11)
11F:推 JoeJohnson:Kerr今天是省钱却很不小心的补强到了… 12/11 22:57
12F:推 jincowba:有种两队都有赚到的感觉... 12/11 22:58
13F:推 kulama:JJ有笑点 12/11 22:58
14F:推 dodo6:你今天骂Kerr?科科~ 12/11 22:58
15F:→ taboo00:连前太阳球员JJ都说话了!!! 12/11 22:59
16F:推 BlueKidds:情感因素啦 12/11 23:03
17F:推 camuskiroro:如果太阳想重打小球应该不会把DIAW送走吧!! 12/11 23:06
18F:推 jason741230:我只想说Diaw Bell没有你想的这麽差 12/11 23:07
19F:→ camuskiroro:不过J-RICH的到来确实弥补了太阳进攻上的盲点 12/11 23:08
20F:推 peter331:我比较推Diaw...因为我对金臂勾事件还事耿耿於怀... 12/11 23:08
21F:→ camuskiroro:从这点来看这个交易不是全无道理 12/11 23:08
22F:→ jason741230:sorry...我刚po了才发现这是篇新闻,原本是想对原po说 12/11 23:09
23F:推 pett:情感因素而已 12/11 23:09
24F:推 Copycat3:德瑞克兄,你这句话真该拿去篮球邦邦主聚会时讲~XD 12/11 23:09
25F:→ smallwave:太阳赚超大吧 没什麽好怀疑的 12/11 23:10
26F:→ Copycat3:怎麽还有人跳针在用薪资结构法克科科尔交易KT跟大欧啊? 12/11 23:10
27F:推 bkm1:把大欧找来 再换波特当教练 就知道太阳放弃小球这条路了 12/11 23:11
28F:→ bkm1:现在又说要打小球 请问现任教练有这能耐吗? 12/11 23:11
29F:推 jimyates:用2K9模拟一下真的满强的 12/11 23:12
30F:推 kulama:要打小球还不简单,小球阵一摆,Nash自由发挥就是了 12/11 23:12
31F:推 derekhsu:KT跟大欧的事情,薪资结构的观点那要看是拼当下或看未来 12/11 23:12
32F:→ kulama:虽然不一定是这样打,但没有那麽困难。 12/11 23:13
33F:→ kulama:看看今天的比赛,难道看不出小球风其实内建在这群人里面 12/11 23:14
34F:推 evonre:这就是神奇的地方 还有人在大欧交易中不舍Marion 12/11 23:14
35F:→ evonre:就把Banks捧的好像潜力无限 12/11 23:14
36F:→ kulama:其实不舍大家都会,以为能释怀太阳迷都很舍得吗? 12/11 23:15
37F:→ kulama: 能释怀的太阳迷 12/11 23:16
38F:推 derekhsu:另外一件事情,尼克的表现证明了过去太阳球风,冷笑话 12/11 23:16
39F:→ derekhsu:其实占了很大的一部分,说给Nash自己打没有说得那麽容易 12/11 23:17
40F:推 pppli:说不定省钱不小心省到得冠军 12/11 23:18
41F:推 spree:在热火可能连第三控卫都打不上的Banks,也是科尔清掉前任总 12/11 23:19
42F:推 gotohikaru:台湾人比较喜欢看太阳以前的球风吧 消失了难免两句干谯 12/11 23:19
43F:→ spree:管烂账的一大功德 领五百万打第三控卫,哪来这麽好赚的约 12/11 23:20
44F:推 evonre:看到Banks的烂约就摇头 还有三年要走 12/11 23:20
45F:推 gn00152097:Richardson的三分真的很准~太阳赚到了 12/11 23:21
46F:→ spree:还记得以前Banks被神话到什麽地步吗? 呵呵...... 12/11 23:21
47F:推 pppli:不过还是觉得要是能打出马刺的战术 太阳实力会比马刺恐怖@@ 12/11 23:22
48F:推 gohit:老话一句:打了才知道...话说AI到活塞时专家看好的也不一堆 12/11 23:23
49F:推 ZhongUZheng:看到德瑞克大推的第一句话挺失望的 12/11 23:24
50F:→ ZhongUZheng:不必理不懂的人 懂的人是怎样可以说明一下? 12/11 23:26
51F:→ ZhongUZheng:就清薪资方面太阳确实小赚 这应该比较小争议 但整个交 12/11 23:28
52F:推 kulama:D'Antoni那套是个概念,属於学过就难忘记的东西。 12/11 23:28
53F:→ ZhongUZheng:易整体的优劣得失 不也包含球员被交易後的表现 12/11 23:29
54F:推 timlaker:我X你X的科科 12/11 23:30
55F:推 ZhongUZheng:要是所谓的专家们眼镜碎一地 太阳最後未必是赢家吧 12/11 23:33
56F:→ dmdjjj:抢不抢看个人啦 屌爷到山猫打3、4号位 说不准也能有成效 12/11 23:36
57F:推 ZhongUZheng:Amare:大欧不是来cover我 解放我的进攻能量吗? 12/11 23:40
58F:推 AmadeusJun:教练不给打、总管不想打,光是PG想打跑轰有用吗?还是 12/11 23:41
59F:→ ZhongUZheng:Richardson完全爆发 数据应该很好看吧 12/11 23:41
60F:→ AmadeusJun:期待Nash为了打跑轰和高层杠上? 12/11 23:42
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61F:推 ddduu:俗话说~从太阳出来的~都是高手= =+ 12/12 02:07







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