※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1ILwqZhT ] 作者: lollygagger (chivalry's alive) 看板: NBA 标题: [外絮] Pop: He's done it all for me 时间: Fri Oct 11 15:47:42 2013 Full Q and A with Gregg Popovich on Mike Budenholzer http://0rz.tw/SKVoF Posted: 5:21 p.m. Monday, June 3, 2013 By Steve Hummer（采访）/ Chris Vivlamore（逐字稿） On Hawks Blog Mike Budenholzer 上季还在马刺板凳蹲着，本季已成老鹰教头。两年来这已经是第三个 Pop 的副手遭别队挖角成总教练了，去年 Jacque Vaughn 去魔术，今年 Brett Brown 走费城，还有这个 Mike Bud，难怪 Pop 开季说今年马刺助理教练团他一个都不认识。 这篇是老鹰 Blog 专访 Pop, 谈这位昔日的子弟兵、老鹰的新教头，老波难得不练肖话 ，正经受访就算了还侃侃而谈，让这篇专访的逐字稿充满球队运作的珍贵细节。节录如 下。 Q. Can you explain what Mike’s role was on your staff? I understand he’s big in analytics and player development. A. He was my right-hand man. He came through the ranks. I first brought him into the film room 17 years ago or something like that, or more, I can’t remember but he started there for several years. I put him on the bench and he moved up. As time went on I depended on him more and more. He became my top assistant, top confidant, but over time he’s just acquired an ability to understand the whole deal. As a coach your primary responsibilities are preparing your team to go win, that’s a variety of things as we know. It's not just O’s and X’s, it’s relationships with players and managing practices, developing strategy and making it fit with the players you have, all that sort of thing. He also along the way really developed a knowledge of the (salary) cap, how trades are made, how free agents affect the group, what's the five-year plan, what’s the eight-year plan. He became very valuable in all ways here in the organization. He’s basically got it all, no exaggeration. He’s a really skilled individual in a lot of areas. You can see how as time went on we were co-head coaches than anything else. Then we would be in discussions with R.C. (Buford) and his group and he said a lot more intelligent things than I did as far as why we should make a trade or not make a trade or whether to add this free agent to our team or not. He's done it all for me, quite honestly. 能不能解释一下 Mike (Budenholzer) 在你团队的角色为何？我的了解是他善於分析及 裁培球员？ 他等同我左右手，而且从基层一路历练上来。１７年前，还是更早，我已经记不得了， 反正我刚带他进球队时，是安排他在影片室，他从剪带子做起，在那待了几年。我让他 在板凳上看比赛，他不断进步，职务渐昇。随着时间流逝，我越来越依赖他。最後，他 成了我最得力的副手，也是最知心的好友。重点是这些年的历练让他对球队运作可说是 全盘皆通，无事不晓。 教练主要就是负责帮球队备战，好拿下比赛胜利。简单两句话，但我们都知道要做的事 何只千头万绪。不只是该做什麽，不该做什麽，还有球员关系、练球管理、发展战略并 适时视战力调整战略…诸如此类，眉角一堆。 一路走来他习得一身本领，球员薪资上限的问题、交易的运作、自由球员对球队的影响 、五年计划是什麽、八年计划又是什麽。从一切层面来看，他都是马刺弥足珍贵的人才 ，不夸张，基上他就是样样通晓。他在球队运作的各个领域都是一号人物，你可以看出 ，随着时间推演，我跟他可说是共掌兵符（co-head coach）。决定要不要交易谁，或该 追哪个自由球员时，我俩会和 R.C. （Buford, 马刺总管）和他的团队一同讨论，然後 他会说一堆比我高明的话。老实讲，他真的什麽都帮我做了。 Q. There are not going to rename the town San Atlanta just yet but obviously there is a lot of San Antonio influence coming this way. What do you think Mike’s biggest challenge will be in taking what he did there and what he did there and grafting them on another team? A. That is a great question (Steve) because you guys are the Atlanta Hawks. You are not the San Antonio Spurs. All the things that might have worked here doesn’t mean they will work there. I think what Bud is going to take, like any of us, he’s going to take the things organizationally or fundamentally that are sound for basketball. These things win and lose. It doesn’t matter where you are. After that, you take on the Atlanta character. Whatever the skill sets are, the players, what the fan base is like, what ownership has for a vision and adjust accordingly. No matter how you slice it, Tim Duncan makes a lot of the things we did look pretty good. I’m not trying to be Mr. Humble at all. People laugh when I say that. It’s true. You draw a play and it works better if Michael (Jordan) is running the play than Joe Blow. It’s part that to our success. Organizationally we do some really good things but after those fundamentals that we talked about – participatory approach, no territory, all that stuff is good – but after that you have to know who your people are and you have to adjust. He’s going to be able to do that because he’s been exposed to so many different players from so many different organizations and coaches because me being here so long and my relationships. He’s been around Larry Brown and Don Nelson and Jerry Sloan. He sees things from all these programs that he thinks are good and he adopts for himself. I know there are certain things that he is going to do that he’s always wanted me to do here and I haven’t done it. He’ll have his own head, his own mind and he’ll adjust it to what you all have there on the floor. 虽然亚特兰大还没到改名成圣亚特兰大，但很明显已经受到圣城很大的影响（译按：老鹰 去年上任的总管 Danny Ferry 也是马刺出品）。若论把马刺经验移植到不同球队，你认为 Mike 最大的挑战在哪？ 这问题问得好，Steve，因为你懂得你们是亚特兰大老鹰，不是圣安东尼奥马刺。所有在 这里行得通的事，不代表在那里行得通。我想，就像我们所有人一样，Mike 会把对打好 球有益的事，有组织地从基本功做起。同时了解，就算做足功课，比赛还是有输有赢， 不管你在哪都一样。再来，你要开始熟悉老鹰的风格，好比技术人员、球员战力、球迷 基础如何、高层有何愿景等等，然後随之调整适应。 不论你怎麽看，Tim Duncan 的表现都让我的很多做法显得聪明。每次我这样讲大家就笑， 可这丝毫不是我在装谦虚，事实如此，他是关键。你画一个战术，Michael（Jordan）执 行的结果绝对比一般人来得好。组织上我们是有些做法不错，但除了刚讲的那些基本功-- 分享互助的球风，彼此不分地盘，这些都很好--但做到这些之後，你还得了解你的球员， 并适时调整。他有这种能力，因为我在这行久矣，加上我的人脉，他有机会跟很多不同球 队来的球员相处，并随多位明师学习，如 Larry Brown, Don Nelson, Jerry Sloan。 他看尽这些优秀的系统，以至於他自己也能照做。在马刺有些他一直叫我做，但我一直 没做的事，我知道他会在亚特兰大放手去做。他能独立思考，且见解独到，想必能善用 老鹰提供的兵力。 Q. From your earliest days together when Bud was a film guy, did you recognize certain things that were going to lead him to this point? A. I can go back further than that. Before I brought him to San Antonio, I brought him to Golden State in ’92. When Larry went to the Clippers and I went with Don Nelson to Golden State. When I got there, Bud had graduated from Pomano and had played in Denmark – some place that was worthless enough for him to play in – and he was back, a civilian sitting in the Bay area. I called him and said ‘Hey Bud, do you want to help? I said come down to the arena and this is what I’m going to have you do. I’m going to. I have to put these tapes together to put these reports together to give to Nellie (Don Nelson) for each of the games. You can help me. I’m going to put you back in the film room back there. I’m going to tell you what I want and you are going to put it on film for me so I can look, whether it’s pick-and-rolls, post D or whatever. Don’t talk to me. Don’t ask for tickets. Just give it to me and leave me alone.’ He did it for a whole year for me there. He wasn’ t hired, just did it to get his feet wet. When I got to San Antonio a couple of years later, I brought him. I knew then, when I would get the films from him, that he knew what was going on. He really has a feel for the game. That is when I knew I really had to have him with me. Bud 最早开始跟你共事，只是剪片小弟的时侯，你是不是就看出端倪，觉得他有朝一日 能当上总教头？ 我能追溯到更早之前。我带他去马刺之前，92 年我就找他去金州勇士了。那时（译按： 马刺把当时的总教练 Larry Brown 和他整个助教团都裁了，两年後马刺新老板请回 Pop 当总管）Larry 到快艇去了，而我则去勇士跟 Nellie （Don Nelson）。我到勇士之後， 他已经毕业，去了丹麦打球--对他来讲在那里打球没什麽用--於是他回国，成了镇日在旧 金山湾闲坐的老百姓一枚。 我打电话给他：「嘿 Bud, 想不想来帮我？」我说：「你快来球馆，我这些事要你来做。 每一场球赛後，我都得把这些片子整理出来，才能把这些报告整理出来，才能交给 Nellie 过目。你可以帮忙。我会把你摆在後面那个影片室，我会告诉你我要什麽，可能是挡拆、 可能低位防守，可能是任何事，然後你会把它剪成影片，好让我过目。不要跟我说话，不 要跟我要票，只要把我要的给我，然後少来烦我。」 他帮我做这些，整整一年。不是员工喔，只为了得到经验，他肯干。两年後我得以回到 马刺时，我带着他。他弄那些影片给我时，我就明白了：他了解状况。他对比赛真的别 具慧眼。早在那时我就明白，我去哪里都得有他。 --

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