作者bolam (95 10 23步排入伍)
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标题边锋系列谈 16 -- 谈边锋的组织进攻技能
时间Wed Jun 5 17:31:15 2013
本文於2011.10.21
由法罗群岛玩家Maverick_Bluehair发表於Wing Market & Discussion论坛
F. Should we train low playmaking wingers?
是否应该训练低组织进攻技能的边锋 ?
The strong consensus of the Federation is that it can be worthwhile to
train wingers with playmaking of lower than 'solid'.
在论坛有个共识 :
训练组织进攻技能低於稳定(7)的边锋，是比较值得的训练策略。
The more important question is degree.
An inadequate or passable ‘primary’ skill player should probably be
sold earlier, with potentially lesser wing skill trained,
in order to return to the transfer market earlier to afford these players
additional training in their ‘primary’ skill by the buyers.
A 19 year-old passable playmaking/brilliant winger is much more marketable
than a 21 year-old, passable playmaking/world class winger.
A 19 year-old inadequate playmaking/formidable winger is much more
marketable than a 21 year-old inadequate playmaking/brilliant winger.
选择球员时，一个重要的因素是球员的技能级别(degree)。
主技能是中下(5)或是及格(6)，但是训练成边锋潜力较差的球员，
应该要即早挂牌卖出，这样买家才能越早开始该球员的主技能训练。
19岁及格(6)组织进攻技能+辉煌(11)边锋技能的边锋，
比21岁及格(6)组织进攻技能+独步天下(13)边锋技能的边锋有市场价值。
同理，19岁中下(5)组织进攻技能+强大(9)边锋技能的边锋，
比21岁中下(5)组织进攻技能+辉煌(11)边锋技能的边锋有市场价值。
If training a low playmaking player,
it is preferable that the trainee have some other relevant secondary skill,
for example, scoring, defending or passing.
Passing, in particular, can be a viable alternative to playmaking,
as it can give a significant boost to attack (instead of midfield),
as well as increase your tactical ratings.
While passing does increase transfer value,
do note that many winger trainers consider passing overrated on wingers.
如果你要训练组织进攻技能较低的边锋，
那你应该选择其他辅助技能不错的球员来训练。
除了组织进攻技能外，最佳的边锋辅助技能首推传球技能，
因为传球技能可以对比赛的进攻评级作出很好的贡献，同时也可以提升比赛的战术评级。
另外，防守技能、以及进攻技能也是不错的辅助技能的选择。
因为传球技能确实可以提升边锋球员的市场价值，
有些训练边锋的玩家，甚至更重视边锋的传球技能，而不是主技能边锋技能。
One reason why players might not want to train exclusively moderate/high PM
trainees is diversification. Markets change naturally over time,
and sometimes dramatically,
when the developers introduce new rules or change existing ones.
Training only one kind of player is making yourself a 'hostage to fortune'.
It will be wiser to train some wingers with low PM,
some with moderate to high PM, some potential forwards towards wing players,
and so on. However, wingers with decent levels of playmaking from
excellent to formidable, are extraordinarily popular.
I dare to say, as long as wingers contribute to midfield this player will
continue to be popular.
有些训练边锋的玩家，不喜欢训练有不错组织进攻技能的边锋，
其中一个原因，是他们希望能多角化经营。
转会市场是会改变的，
尤其是当游戏引擎改版时，转会市场甚至会产生剧烈变动。
如果你的训练策略只是训练单一类型的球员，是不保险的，你的财富可能会瞬间缩水。
(注:反过来说，当然也可能一夜致富)
保险的做法，是发展多角化经营，同时间训练不同类型的球员:
同时训练低组织的边锋，组织不错的边锋、以及一些靠边前锋，以此类推。
然而，在转会市场上，有优秀(8)或是强大(9)组织进攻技能的边锋，是非常很受欢的。
我敢说，只要边锋能帮忙堆中场评级，这样类型的球员就永远受欢迎。
Although 'passable' does seem to represent some kind of psychological
threshold,
passable playmaking does not generate much greater contributions than the
psychologically less attractive levels such as 'poor' or 'weak'.
In going from 'poor' to 'passable', the reward is increased marketability
(to playmaker trainers), not increased performance.
Playmaking trainers are, though, one of the most important markets for
finished wingers,
and so paying the premium for passable PM may well be a worthwhile investment.
PM trainers who do not have much money might consider going as low
as 'inadequate', but they are very unlikely to go lower.
这里要破除一个迷思 !
及格(6)级别是个极富代表性的心理门槛，你会觉得差(3)和弱(4)是个很低的级别，
然而谈到场上的贡献，及格组织的边锋在场上的贡献，
不会比差组织或是弱组织的边锋多很多。
及格组织的边锋比起差组织的边锋，球场上评级的贡献并没有显着的差别，
最大的差别在於市场价值。
在市场上有批训练组织进攻技能的玩家，会收购边锋技能已经训练完毕的球员，
这时边锋的组织进攻技能的高低就会影响球员的市价了。
组织进攻技能是及格以上的球员，可以卖出较高的价钱 ;
而组织进攻技能较低的球员，就只能卖给预算比较不充足的玩家了。
Winger trainees with higher PM, e.g. excellent or above,
can make a very valuable contribution to midfield and thus performance.
However, it has generally been found, up to now,
that trainees with higher levels of playmaking-perhaps outstanding but
definitely brilliant-are less profitable to train.
Diversification is, again, recommended,
and low PM wingers are one way to achieve that diversification.
组织进攻技能是优秀(8)以上级别的边锋，确实可以对比赛的中场评级可观做出贡献，
然而，现在普遍发现，训练组织进攻技能级别很高的边锋，例如杰出(10)、辉煌(11)级别
在经济上的训练获利是较低的。
在这边，我们再次推荐你多角化经营，
而训练组织进攻技能较低的边锋，是多角化经营的其中一个环节。
Wingers without playmaking will often sell at a lower price than one of
similar skill with playmaking.
Balancing this, the trainees can often be purchased at a much lower price,
giving similar or perhaps even better profit potential.
However, users should not just assume that the price of a low PM winger is a
good one.
Prices are highly volatile, and the prices of individual wingers,
especially with other secondary stats, can be bid up to high levels.
A good idea of the value of the player, and discipline in bidding, is needed.
没有组织进攻技能辅助的边锋，比起有组织的边锋，场上的评级贡献较差，
因此市场成交价格也较低，在这个环节，给了玩家不错的训练获利空间。
然而，在此要提醒你，不要盲目的认为低组织的边锋，市价永远都很便宜，
你还要看该球员的其他技能，尤其是有其他辅助技能的球员，价格也是会飙升，
因此，在竞标球员时的纪律，是很重要的。
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1F：推 toddchen:那个第一段的意义是：主技能达到6-7的，但训练边锋的潜力 06/05 17:48
2F：→ toddchen:较低的球员，应该要尽早卖掉。 06/05 17:48
3F：→ toddchen:这样才能提供买家更多机会（时间）训练该球员主技能。 06/05 17:50
4F：→ bolam:有道理..终於看懂了 06/05 18:27
※ 编辑: bolam 来自: 1.34.189.91 (06/06 10:06)
5F：→ bolam:搞定..终於这例列只剩下最後一个章节了 06/06 10:06