作者yichinabby ()
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标题Re: [问题] 哈利波特疑问
时间Mon Jan 10 14:12:44 2011
※ 引述《yichinabby ()》之铭言:
: : 回答完问题我想问一件困扰我很久的事,就是马份到底几时中了哈利缴械咒...
: : 我把马份庄园那部分翻了好几次都没看到,爬文也没人问,是我眼残吗@@
: 这是翻译问题
: 译者大概太专注於那些咒语和专有名词了
: 再加上HP里面提到disarm几乎都是咒语的disarm......
: 原文:Does the wand in your hand know its last master was Disarmed?
: 这里不应该翻成"中了缴械咒" 而是"被缴械了"
: 徒手抢过来也是被缴械
我的书远在时差14小时的地方 所以我查的是电子档
比起纸本可能精确度有差 不过搜索关键字很快
缴械咒是第二集开始的 所以列出所有的disarm/Disarm
请书在手边的人帮忙看看有没有错误
从结论说 咒语的缴械有字首大写也有字首小写的
台词和叙述中也是两种字首都有
唯二的两件非咒语缴械一个大写一个小写 一个是对话一个是叙述
不太能比 比了也没有结果
总之 若这电子书这些地方是对的
那大小写完全看作者高兴...
第二本
Disarming Charm
专有名词字首大写
When I count to three, cast your charms to disarm your opponents - only
to disarm them –
"I said disarm only!"
Lockheart的台词
大家正在学习缴械咒 小写disarm泛指任何形式的缴械
(因为正在学 并非想使用就能使用的状态
多数时候disarm是想要达成的目标
和以後提到Disarm多是已完成的动作或确信会完成的感觉不同)
and just as Snape had disarmed Lockhart, so Malfoy found the diary
shooting out of his hand into the air.
抢日记那边的叙述 非对白
因为是Snape做的 很明确是缴械咒的disarm 但这里是小写
They played Exploding Snap, set off the very last of Fred and George's
Filibuster fireworks, and practiced disarming each other by magic.
假期中叙述句 这里指使用缴械咒的disarm
虽是小写但是和之前推文的summon一样後面有by magic
推测将一般泛称用的小写後面加上by magic後供用等同於专指咒语的大写写法?
第三册
Harry looked around. Both Ron and Hermione had tried to disarm Snape
at exactly the same moment.
小屋中三人组成功用咒语把Snape的wand打飞了
不过看文句也可以当成一般的泛称
第四册
Stay close to Ron and Hermione, do not leave Gryffindor Tower after
hours, and arm yourself for the third task. Practice Stunning and
Disarming.
天狼星写给Harry的建言 可以视做对白
也很明确的说Disarming是指咒语
"Well, I think Harry's got it now, anyway," said Hermione hastily.
"And we don't have to worry about Disarming, because he's been able
to do that for ages. ... I think we ought to start on some of these
hexes this evening."
Hermione台词 咒语的缴械
Disarming Spell
专有名词字首大写
第五册
Disarming Charm
专有名词字首大写
many people were not succeeding in Disarming their opponents at all,
but merely causing them to jump backwards a few paces or wince as
their feeble spell whooshed over them.
DA教学的叙述 咒语的disarm 大写
Harry moved off into the middle of the room. Something very odd was
happening to Zacharias Smith. Every time he opened his mouth to disarm
Anthony Goldstein, his own wand would fly out of his hand
DA教学的叙述 咒语的disarm 小写
‘Did you see me disarm Hermione, Harry?’
Ron的台词 可说是咒语的disarm也可以是泛称
whenever he was supposed to be reading Wilbert Slinkhard's book during
her lessons he dwelled instead on satisfying memories of their most
recent meetings, remembering how Neville had successfully disarmed
Hermione, how Colin Creevey had mastered the Impediment Jinx after
three meetings' hard effort
对Harry的叙述 可说是咒语的disarm也可以是泛称
第六册
Harry was so disarmed that she had thought his words as well worth
memorizing as The Standard Book of Spells that he did not argue.
和缴械无关 Harry听到Hermione说他和Snape相像时的反应
'My dear boy, let us have no more pretence about that. If you were
going to kill me, you would have done it when you first Disarmed me,
you would not have stopped for this pleasant chat about ways and
means.'
校长台词 Malfoy是使用咒语的
I was under the Invisibility Cloak - and then Malfoy came through
the door and disarmed him –
Harry告诉Tonks塔上情形 咒语的 小写
第七册
. . . It's him. . . it's the real one. . . . They had said it right
after he had tried to Disarm Stan. . . .
不是台词 是Harry脑袋里的想法 Disarm是咒语的
And I tried to Disarm him instead of – well, he doesn't know what
he's doing, does he? He must be Imperiused!"
Lupin looked aghast.
"Harry, the time for Disarming is past!
Harry和Lupin的台词 咒语的disarm
Zacharias Smith, who had jeered at Harry for wanting to teach
Dumbledore's Army how to Disarm.
非台词 咒语 大写
I managed to hit the one holding me in the stomach, grabbed his
wand, Disarmed the bloke holding mine, and Disapparated.
Ron的自叙 台词 咒语 大写
The silver tool that Voldemort had given his most cowardly servant had
turned upon its disarmed and useless owner
Wormtail被银手掐死的叙述 他的wand是被Ron抢走的 无咒语 小写
Harry saw the figure hit the ground. Disarmed, Voldemort throwing the
challenger's wand aside and laughing.
似乎有个句点和逗点弄反了 电子书的关系吗?
非台词 大写 可以是咒语的或泛称
“So it all comes down to this, doesn’t it?” whispered Harry. “Does the wand in your hand know its last master was Disarmed? Because if it does . . . I am the true master of the Elder Wand.”
让我们讨论这麽久的罪魁祸首
台词 不是咒语用 大写
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1F:→ notia:有电子档!?(大惊) 01/10 17:03
2F:推 PrinceBamboo:好完整 01/10 18:28
3F:推 robcano:完整给推!!!!! 01/10 19:01
4F:推 AndrewHuang:还没看完....不过先推 XD 01/10 20:17
5F:→ flyinDenmark:结论不对吧 你列出的这些小写的可为咒语可为动词 01/10 21:51
6F:→ flyinDenmark:不过开头大写除非是句首不然一定是咒语 01/10 21:52
7F:→ flyinDenmark:disarmed应该翻译为被卸除武装(也就是手中无魔杖) 01/10 21:54
8F:→ flyinDenmark:不一定是用缴械咒 但大写Disarmed则是强调是被缴械咒 01/10 21:57
9F:→ flyinDenmark:(Disarming Charm)所造成的卸除武装 01/10 21:58
10F:推 anidori:请问电子档是哪儿来的?... 01/11 05:22
11F:推 anarch: 请问电子档是哪儿来的?... 01/11 16:58