作者dondothat (bass手找团啦,干)
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标题Re: [艾叔] Axl的访谈~
时间Tue Dec 23 22:55:52 2008
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※ 引述《lordlpg (M)》之铭言:
: more :P
: AXL ROSE Takes Part In Another Online Chat, Says There Are 'No Plans' For
: GN'R Tour Right Now - Dec. 14, 2008
: Reclusive GUNS N' ROSES singer Axl Rose took part in yet another online chat
: Friday night (December 12), this time via the GUNS N' ROSES fan community
: ChineseDemocracy.com.
: BLABBERMOUTH.NET has compiled the most interesting bits from the
: question-and-answer session and is re-posting them here for your reading
: enjoyment. (Note: Some of Axl's responses were slightly edited for clarity.)
以上前言
: Q: If you tour the UK again, will you be going back to Newcastle? Despite the
: last time one prick there throwing pound coins about. I was there that night
: in 2006 and it would be a shame for the next tour not to stop there because
: of one idiot out of thousands (although I'm sure it's a lot more complicated
: then that and down to promoters).
: Axl: That wouldn't stop us from playing there again. And the whole
: throwing-shit [thing] sucks and is pretty cowardly, but the leaving
: [threatening to walk off stage when people throw objects at you while you are
: performing] I got at Donington from Lemmy. When we first played Donington, I
: was so happy I had knocked a bottle of piss out of the air when Lemmy gave me
: a lecture how if another band got hurt because I allowed people to throw
: things at our shows I'd be responsible for other bands getting hurt. Whether
: real or there's an argument against that, I've never been able to have
: anything override that in my head, not even a riot, and I don't know why. If
: you're working hard and some cunt throws something so he can tell his
: buddies, I don't see where it's worth it.
这段好像在说2006在英国newcastle的表演出过一些事
会不会因此不再回去那里表演
艾叔说不会因此不回去表演
(有人知道详情吗?)
: Q: Is "Silkworms" on the next record? It's a masterpiece.
: Axl: [It] has a lot of guitars, lots of different drum [patterns] and the
: chorus is gone.
问:silkworms会放到下一张专辑中吗?
艾:这首歌用到很多吉他,很多鼓,而且当时合音的人已经不见了
(没正面回答会不会收录)
: Q: Just wondering if there truly was a rap song with Shaq [American
: professional basketball player, rapper and actor Shaquille O'Neal] on it that
: you recorded? This is one of the many rumors flying around since this album's
: conception and I think we all wanna know.
: Axl: In my opinion, that was just cheap shots from media jerkoffs knowing
: that Shaq wasn't the most popular or respected rapper publicly. I've never
: met the man. He goofed around with Paul [Tobias, a.k.a. Paul Huge; GUNS N'
: ROSES guitarist 1996-2002] and Diz [GN'R keyboardist Dizzy Reed] and it went
: from there.
问:真的有收录跟欧肥合唱的rap吗?
艾:我觉得这只是媒体在消费欧肥,我本人从没见过他
可能是他跟paul huge (按:这谁啊?)跟dizzy混在一起所以有这谣言
: Q: I was wondering about new tour dates....
: Axl: No plans. We're talking.
问:新的巡回时间?
艾:还在谈
: Q: What is Brain's [GN'R drummer Bryan "Brain" Mantia] status?
: Axl: I think he's doing alright. Maybe I should check.
问:Brain现在怎样?
艾:我想应该还好,我应该要再去确认一下
(按:?)
: Q: Can you bring back "Breakdown" or "Dead Horse" to the set?
: Axl: Maybe. [I'm] more interested in [performing] the newer [material] now.
问:会把"Breakdown"或"Dead Horse"放到歌单里吗 ?
艾:我比较想唱新歌
: Q: Your music means more to me than I could ever express.
: Axl: Thank you. [It] means a lot.
问:你的歌好棒
艾:谢谢指教
: Q: What's your opinion on the ["Chinese Democracy"] album, GunsNRoses.com and
: ChineseDemocracy.com being banned in China?
: Axl: China's a tough place. A lot of us have no idea how good we have it and
: think less of those less fortunate. The Chinese people have been kept in the
: dark through literally the fear of incarceration or death, which, to most, is
: either unimaginable or only able to be contemplated with stories or movies
: and such where there is an all-encompassing environment and they're growing
: larger everyday.
问:对於新专辑跟网站在中国被禁有什麽看法?
艾:我想是因为现在出唱片的时机不宜吧(误)
中国是个鬼地方。我们多数人并不清楚我们拥有的事情是多麽的美好,并且
不太关心那些不幸的人们.中国的人民被关在黑暗的所在并受到死亡及监禁
的威胁,这些是我们无法想像的,或是只能透过故事或电影才能理解到那是
一个完全压迫的社会,并且这压迫还在不断地扩张.
: Q: How does an average GN'R rehearsal go? Like, do you jam on any covers, go
: over songs until they are extremely tight, etc.? Also, how frequent are GUNS
: N' ROSES rehearsals?
: Axl: Frequency depends on the reason, say a tour or particular gig, and how
: we feel about where we're at with whatever the material is and not so much on
: the covers but lots of jams. Generally, there's a lot of fun but a lot of
: work and these guys take it very seriously, which is great.
问:你们平常是怎麽练团的 ?多久练一次团?
艾:练团的频率并不一定,取决於演出或是我们对於歌曲的感觉。练团时
并非照本重练或是乱jam一通.
不过大致上说来他们都很认真,这是很棒的事.
: Q: How do you feel about meeting your fans? What is the best way for a fan to
: meet you if they happen to be a dude (since the stereotype is that rockers
: only wanna meet hot chicks)?
: Axl: I like meeting all kinds of fans, but after a show (I realize that's the
: only time some may feel they have an opportunity, but with the exception of
: close friends around...), not to be offensive, but I'm generally not looking
: forward to walking off stage to hang with guys, whether they're fans or not.
: I deal with GUNS all day every day, so coming off stage to talk about the
: band is just like more of the same. Unless there's pressing business, I wanna
: forget that 'till it's time to go at it again the next day. And people may
: enjoy meet-and-greets and have their reasons why it meant a lot for them,
: which I respect, but overall, charging fans for it, I think, [is] disgusting
: of bands. Now if they did it for free to winners of a contest, etc., that
: would be different. Charging is lame. How to meet bands? Maybe try to hang
: out places you might hear they do sometimes.
问:对於跟歌迷见面你有什麽看法?如果他们不能插的话你会排斥吗?
艾:我喜欢跟不同类型的歌迷碰面,但在表演完下台後并不喜欢跟歌迷甚至
其他人混在一起
(我晓得很多人觉得刚表演完是跟我们接近的好时机)
我整天都活在GNR的世界中,即使下了舞台谈来谈去还是那些事情,除非是接受
访问,不然我并不想面对这些事情.
对於一般人来说,跟我们打招呼、见面可能是很不得了的事情,这点我能理解.
但见面要收钱这件事还满鸡巴的.
比较好的方式是到我们可能出现的地方去堵我们
: Q: How much does [J.D. Salinger's 1951 novel] "Catcher in the Rye" [have to
: do with] the [GUNS N' ROSES] song ["Catcher N' The Rye"], or is [the title]
: solely referring to Chapman [John Lennon's murderer Mark David Chapman was
: carrying a copy of the book when he shot the ex-THE BEATLES member]?
: Axl: For me, the song is inspired by what's referred to sometimes as Holden
: Caulfield Syndrome. I feel there's a possibility that how the writing is
: structured with the thinking of the main character could somehow re-program,
: for lack of a better word, some who may be a bit more vulnerable, with a
: skewed way of thinking, and tried to allow myself to go what may be there or
: somewhat close during the verses. I'd think for most those lines are enjoyed
: as just venting, blowing off steam, humor or some type of entertainment where
: it may be how others seriously live in their minds. The bridge before the
: solo is an artistic interpretation of an institutionalized mind. The outro is
: a tribute to Lennon and an indictment of the author for writing what I feel
: is utter garbage and I agree wholeheartedly that it should be discontinued as
: required reading in schools. That's my take, I could be completely wrong. I
: do realize that the song and title could have the next poor soul reading the
: book and feeling inspired to make an unfortunate statement. So there's the
: catch, I guess. When I came up with the focus, I got a call from the director
: of "Imagine" wanting a bunch of money to make a documentary, had a guy
: sending me strange packages about Lennon and serial killers, etc., and the
: web started calling me Salinger, with no one knowing what I was writing. I
: figured I was on the right track, at least for a song.
问:"Catcher in the Rye"跟枪杀约翰男脓的Mark David Chapman有什麽关系?
(Mark David Chapman当时身上带着一本"麦田捕手")
艾:这首歌的灵感来自於"Holden Caulfield Syndrome"
(按:1.干,我念医学院十年都没听过这病名,艾叔真是太屌了!
2.
http://0rz.tw/2c5jN <-Holden Caulfield是"麦田捕手"书中的主角,
好像有一些精神上的困境,"Holden Caulfield Syndrome"不晓得是不是
确实精神医学上的症状名称,这点我有空再查查看
3.大家有空了解一下这首歌的歌词或是去看看这本书
可能比较能清楚接下来几段艾叔叔在讲啥)
我觉得应该有办法能够重新整理这部建筑在有点脆弱、有点偏激的主角的想法上
的作品,让我本身更能够进入作品的思维.
我宁可希望大部分的歌词被拿来当作消遣跟抒发的娱乐,虽然歌词可能是某些人
真实的想法.
在solo前的那个桥段是对於僵化的思想所做的艺术上的诠释,
outro的部分,则是对男脓的致敬及对写出这本垃圾书的作者的指控
我完全赞成这些垃圾不应该再被指定为学生的指定阅读刊物.
但这只是我的想法,我也有可能是错的.
我了解这首歌的内容跟歌名可能会让某些人去读这本书,进而做出错误的解读.
这首歌曝光後,"Imagine"的导演打了通电话给我,说要用一堆钱弄个纪录片,
还叫人拿了一堆男脓跟连续杀人犯什麽的文件给我,网路上也开始叫我
Salinger(按:麦田捕手的作者),但他们连我在写啥都还弄不清楚.
我想我应该没有错得太离谱,至少在写一首歌上.
: Q: Just wanted to ask this: out of all of the music you have written, what
: song are you most proud of?
: Axl: Right now, a lot on this album "Chinese Democracy". For me, musically,
: it would have to be the orchestral arrangement in the bridge of "This I Love".
问:你最自豪的作品是哪一首
艾:大部分都在『中国民主』这张专辑中。
音乐上,应该是"This I love"中管弦乐的部分。
: Q: How does it feel to see your face everywhere? Especially these very old
: pictures...
: Axl: Fine.
问:到处都看得到自己的脸是什麽感觉,特别那些照片都是很久以前的
艾:fine.
: Q: When GUNS played the surprise acoustic show in London, can you remember
: what the request was that you denied before playing "Nightrain", and if so,
: what was that request?
: Axl: No idea.
问:你还记得在伦敦表演不插电那次,你为什麽拒绝表演"nighttrain"吗?
艾:我不知道你在公三洨.
: Q: Axl, what do you think of Duff's [McKagan, ex-GUNS N' ROSES bassist]
: comments about "Chinese Democracy"? [Duff told the Seattle radio station KISW
: 99.9 FM on Friday, December 12] that Axl "sounds amazing" on "Chinese
: Democracy", before adding, "You know, I'm glad he [Axl] put out the record he
: wanted to put out and I think it's gonna be successful, him going out and
: touring. People have been talking how the record's doing. I think it's a
: longevity thing; it will do fine for him. And I wish him the best of luck."]
: Axl: And?
问:你对大夫对这张唱片的看法有什麽看法?(内容见前前篇翻译)
艾:再来勒?
: Q: Do ya Internet with a 56K modem, Axl?
: Axl: Do you?
问:你还在用56k摩电吗?
艾:那你勒?
: Q: "Chinese Democracy" is awesome, but it's a pretty ballady album compared
: to previous GN'R albums. Is this the new direction of GN'R or will some of
: the future GN'R albums be more focused on hard-rocking songs again?
: Axl: What I know is it's the record that was able to get through the red tape
: and get itself out there while helping friends, loved ones and myself along
: the way. The whole ballad or rocker thing has never been something I've ever
: cared too much about. There's some meaner sections ahead, but a particular
: focus once there were a few of the newer guys together was to bring a bit
: more beauty into our efforts.
问:新专辑中的情歌偏多,这是新的方向吗?还是以後会回到摇滚的曲风?
艾:就我的认知,这是一张帮我的朋友们,可爱的人们,以及我自己走过那些鸡巴事情
并得以出版的专辑。
摇不摇滚或芭不芭乐并不在我考虑的范围
未来还有一些更屌(更鸡巴?)的部分,但重点是如果有新的团员,他们会给新作品
带来一些新的气象.
: Q: Is the band still in contact with [former GN'R guitarist] Paul Huge
: [a.k.a. Paul Tobias]? Any more future plans with him? Guest apperance on tour
: maybe?
: Axl: Paul helps out all the time and is on a lot more material. Paul helped
: get a lot of the base credits, etc., together which were extensive. He's
: always had a good memory on that stuff and it's generally important to him to
: be as ethical as he's capable, which is invaluable.
问:paul huge会再回来吗?
艾:他一直有再帮忙,也参与了很多作品.他对我们帮助很大.
(按:paul huge到底是谁orz.)
: Q: If you're composing music (piano), are you using some computer software to
: write the notes down or are you using a sheet of paper and a pen for this?
: If I want to capture it, I either use Logic or Pro Tools in the studio. I've
: tried recording myself otherwise for years, but for some reason, no matter
: what's there, it doesn't seem to be where my real focus should ultimately be.
问:写歌的时候会用电脑吗?
艾:如果是要抓谱的话,我会用录音室的设备,但没有说一定要用什麽来做.
: Q: From interviews, tours, riots, and information you revealed yesterday
: morning, this project has obviously had its ups and downs. If you could do
: this whole process over again, with the making of CD, would you?
: Axl: Only for the same reason I have, other than that... not in a billion
: years.
问:如果可以的话,你会想重做这张唱片吗?
艾:一百万年内不会.
(按:前面那句"the same reason i have"不知道指的是什麽)
: Q: Also, would you consider GN'R to perform for a charity cause, and if yes,
: what that cause would be?
: Axl: All depends on the cause and if it feels right for us at the time. There
: could be a disaster that we felt strongly about being involved with helping
: in some way but often these turn into ways for bands to just promote
: themselves — not really caring, but looking so publicly. Or the money
: doesn't reach the victims or those in need while the celebrities are promoted
: for their efforts. Efforts at what? Not into that so much. Medical situations
: are always important. If you're really helping, then I'm for it. Which ones,
: I couldn't really say. It's not like I would draw a line or argue the
: importance of one over another in most cases.
问:有想过慈善演出吗?
艾:看目的、凭感觉
有些慈善演出结果变成乐团在推销自己,或是钱没有到需要的人手上.
也有些名流只是要吹嘘自己的功劳.
如果是真的要帮忙,那我会去,但我无法分辨哪些事情是比较重要,需要我去帮忙的.
: Q: When did you start the recording of your voice for CD and when did it end
: and which was the last song recorded? Are you here to promote the album, or
: do you really care about your fan base?
: Axl: I'll have to think about the first bit. With the second [question], I'm
: not sure how much this is promoting the album as it's in our own backyard, so
: to speak, but it is talking with fans about some of the realities of GUNS or
: myself which whether I've wanted to or not didn't feel right until now. So
: I'd say it's about us!!
问:什麽时候开始录你vocal的部分的?什麽时候录完的?哪一首歌是最後录的?
你来这是要推销你的新专辑吗?你真的在乎你的歌迷吗?
艾:这问题很难,我要想两个小时 (按:仿自柯赐海2004年於军购公投投票现场)
我不知道来这里对於宣传唱片有多大帮助,我只是来跟大家聊聊.
: Q: Has anything Disney ever inspired you musically? Like "The Little Mermaid"
: score or something? Are you a fan of "The Little Mermaid"? What's your
: favorite Disney animated film?
: Axl: I don't know about musically, but I'm pro Disney. Go about once a year
: or so. Went with Bucket [former GN'R guitarist Buckethead] a lot. It's nice
: to go somewhere where people allow themselves to be more in touch with a more
: innocent side of themselves at least for what seems like the most part.
问:敌视妮有给你什麽灵感吗?像是小美人鱼跟人家搞上之类的?你是小美人鱼的影迷吗?
你最喜欢的敌视妮电影是?
艾:我不知道这跟音乐有啥关系,但我是pro级的敌视妮影迷.
一年前我跟桶头常去敌视妮玩.
去一些能够让自己接触自己天真无邪的一面的地方是件好事.
: Q: Did you do a song with Eazy-E [late American rapper, producer, and record
: executive] in the early '90s. I read it somewhere. I think it would be pretty
: cool. Did you hang out with Eazy-E ever? What was a cool moment hanging out
: with N.W.A.?
: Axl: He recorded with Slash and Duff. He really wanted to attack the media
: over attacking me for "One in a Million". There wasn't really any Easy on it.
: I wasn't there. He gave me the tape to consider. Sounded a bit like the other
: guys doing BODY COUNT. The idea was OK but the track wasn't really there and
: I felt it would get more heat than the track could stand up to. Only hung a
: couple times after a show with any of them. Was glad I got to meet Eazy.
问:你有跟 Eazy-E 合作过吗?跟N.W.A.鬼混好玩吗?
(按:N.W.A好像是一个很有份量的饶舌团体
http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=1608031107175
http://www.nwalegacy.com/)
艾:他是跟屎拉稀还有大夫合作.
对於"One in a Million"这首歌,他好像不爽媒体更胜於我。
我并没有跟eazy合作过.
他有给过我带子试听.听起来有点像body count,但并不是一个原整的作品,我觉得
做成录音作品的话效果可能没那麽好.
(按:不知道是不是这个团
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cqGFcoSfebA)
: Q: Which of your songs ever is the most meaningful for you? And why?
: Axl: I probably won't answer this for a while. It's a good question, but one
: I'll have to think about.
问:你所写的歌哪首对你最有意义?
艾:这问题很难,我要想两个小时 (柯董再次附身)
: Q: Which song on "Chinese Democracy" do you feel was your best work vocally?
: Axl: End section of "There Was A Time", backgrounds in "Catcher N' The Rye".
问:「中国民主」中你哪部分唱得最好?
艾:TWAT最後面的部分."Catcher N' The Rye"背景合音的部分
: Q: What do you do in your spare time for a hobby? What else do you love
: except music?
: Axl: Cars, checking out art, F1 [Formula 1].
问:平常的消遣?
艾:车子,艺术品,F1
: Q: If you don't mind, would you tell me what are your favorite 10 albums of
: 2008 and all-time favorites? I would like to know more about your music taste.
: Axl: I'm more into film scores.
问:你最喜欢的10张专辑?
艾:我比较想回答电影的.
: Q: "Chinese Democracy" was a brilliant album, but do you miss the old GUNS
: from time to time?
: Axl: I miss the illusion we shared for only a few months, if that, of
: thinking we were in this together. It wasn't real, or if so, only ever so
: briefly while deeper currents of ambitions were temporarily put aside, but I
: didn't know that then.
问:你会偶尔想念旧枪吗?
艾:刚开始的几个月我会想像如果我们还在一起的话会是怎样的情形.但这并不真切,
除非我内心强烈的企图心暂时被压抑下来,但我想不到有这个时候.
: Q: I love "Oh My God", but it really sounds like a demo. Why? I'm sure we all
: would love a new version.
: Axl: Because that's all it was, only at the time having just got it together
: only Jimmy Iovine [music producer, entrepreneur and chairman of
: Interscope-Geffen-A&M] knew that who wanted it to sell their soundtrack ["End
: of Days", released in 1999]. I saw segments of the movie which were good. As
: a whole later not so much, but it wasn't ready yet then. I did write an
: experimental piece inspired by the bits I'd seen called "Daddy Can the Devil
: do Mommy and Me?"
问:oh my god 听起来像 demo, why?
艾:因为他确实是啊.(按:大惊!?)
那时刚弄好,Jimmy Iovine(Geffen的老板?)就把他卖掉了.
在看完"Daddy Can the Devil do Mommy and Me?"之後我确实写了一些实验性的东西.
(按:"Daddy Can the Devil do Mommy and Me?"指的是end of days的片段吗?)
: Q: Sebastian Bach mentioned you were writing an autobiography. How is that
: progressing?
: Axl: It's not exactly an autobiography as much as legal record of every last
: detail of what went down with the breakup. I have about 40,000 words on it
: (don't know where [the previously reported number of words] 12,000 came from)
: but it's generally really depressing so I don't go back to it so much.
问:色巴死舔 说你在写自传.写得怎样了?
艾:那并不是正式的自传,只是关於我们团散掉的记录而已.
我写了四万字,不知道人家说的十二万字是哪来的
(按:可能是跟某些媒体说阿扁在看守所中写回忆录搞混了吧)
但因为写起来很沮丧,所以暂时不会再动笔了.
: Q: How many other new songs are fully complete and ready to go?
: Axl: Haven't checked.
问:还有多少歌已经弄好准备发表了
艾:还没确认
: Q: I find the verses on "Shackler's Revenge" to remind me of "The Sopranos"
: theme tune in certain ways. Should they do? Furthermore, any chance of
: getting the complete album on Rock Band? That would be swell.
: Axl: Never thought of that with "The Sopranos", but a big fan of that song.
: And I think that's a yes on Rock Band.
问:"Shackler's Revenge"听起来跟"The Sopranos"主题曲有关?有可能拿到"Rock band"
的专辑吗?
艾:不要把两首歌放一起想.
"Rock band"专辑的事则有可能.
: Q: Which is the most emotional song for you too sing on "Chinese Democracy"?
: Axl: "This I Love".
问:「中国民主」中哪首歌唱起来最有感觉?
艾:This I love.
: Q: Outta the whole ["Chinese Democracy"] record, what is your favorite part
: of music on it? Like a breakdown at some point, strings, anything.
: Axl: Bucket's blues fill at the beginning of the last verse in "Prostitute"
: and his "eventide" bits in the outro, the guitars in the bridge of "Better",
: Robin's [Finck] solo in "There Was A Time", for a few of them.
问:整张唱片中你最喜欢的部分是哪里?
艾:Prostitute最後一段歌词的开头桶头所弹的的蓝调,还有他在outro中所弹的
结束前的部分(eventide bits).
还有他在"better"的bridge的部分.
Robin在TWAT的solo
: Q: Do you think "This I Love" is still the heaviest thing you've written, or
: has another song popped up that now holds that title?
: Axl: That's still it and ultimately a great healing experience to compose
: something you have no real idea you're capable of such as the bridge. It's a
: lot more intricate than I think most realize yet as the guitar and vocals are
: placed as they should be so dominant. The main string melody in that section
: I had originally written to a hip-hop loop as well.
问:你觉得"This I love"是你写过最有份量的作品吗?
艾:是的.
写这首歌是个很棒的经验,让你体验你的能力能到哪里,譬如说bridge那段.
这比我想像的还要复杂精细,并且让我体验到吉他跟声音并不一定要放在最显
眼的位置.
那一段的旋律主线我本来是放在其他hip hop的loop中的.
: Q: Could you please talk at all about what inspired the lyrics to "Shackler's
: Revenge" and/or "Catcher N' The Rye"? Or the meaning behind "Riad N' The
: Bedouins"?
: Axl: "Shackler's" was inspired by the insanity of senseless school shootings
: and also the media trying desperately to make more out of one shooter's
: preference for the GUNS song "Mr. Brownstone" to no avail. That said,
: listening for my own enjoyment or if we were to make a video or performing
: it, I lean more to the entertainment of a horror flick or something like
: "Dexter", something with an interesting menacing character as opposed to real
: life.
问:聊一下"Shackler's Revenge","Catcher N' The Rye","Riad N' The Bedouins"
艾:"Shackler's Revenge"的灵感来自校园枪击案以及某些媒体想要把事情跟
其中一个枪手听"Mr. Brownstone"牵拖在一起.
: On song inspirations:
(按:接下来这段好像是axl自己转贴以前的谈话内容,有关於歌的灵感来源
有点长,所以分段看分段翻,圣诞夜女友不在身边,时间很多,金沟背.)
: Axl: I tried sending this ages ago but apparently it never went through. It
: was a direct response but now fits others questions on the same subject.
艾:几年前我就想贴出这些内容,但好像没有贴成功(按:先去百分百贴图练习一下)
这是直接反应,但对於现在的一些相关的问题也满适用的.
: The whole "who's it about?" bit with songs doesn't work for me that much as
: in whether a line or whatever was inspired by a particular person or
: situation doesn't mean that in the end that's what or who the song's about. I
对於"这首歌跟谁有关"的问题并不适用於我,虽然有些歌中的某部分灵感来自某些人或
某些事,但不代表这首歌就跟该人或该件事有关.
: could be working with clay and think of someone or something and somehow that
: could inspire me to take the work in a different direction at the moment but
: in the end it could just be a nice vase. I often wonder where the people who
: inspired so many songs are now and why it's only important with some songs
: such as "Layla" as opposed to others. I'm guessin' a fair number of beautiful
: love songs or otherwise were inspired by some that the artists and public
: might consider now or in hindsight to be the opposite of how they are
: depicted or allegedly represented.
我可以对着一堆泥土工作,想着可以激发我灵感的某些人或事或方法,引导我朝向不
同的方向去创作,结果可能就捏出一个不错但没有内容的花瓶.
我常在想那些激发许多其他歌曲灵感的人现在在哪?以及为什麽只有一些歌像"Layla"
强调灵感而其他歌不用?
我猜有许多好歌或其他歌曲是被音乐家或大众所注意到的歌曲所激发,或是本来
被遗忘,但被改编之後重新诠释过.
With "Sorry", like a lot of the material
: is drawn from a lot of different situations. The main focus on the boards
: with the track seems to be either Slash or "the fans" (and the collective of
: "the fans" is another thing that doesn't work for me) and is much too
: restrictive or narrow and limits what I feel I intended. For me it's for
: anyone talking nonsense at mine and the public's expense and that many of
: those as well as the public don't know who to believe. Also where possible
: I'd like to give people the opportunity to get what they can from the
: material for a while before clouding that with my inspirations. Of course
: that's not always avoidable.
像"sorry",就像其他的歌曲素材一样,其实是由许多地方得来的灵感所合成.
版上讨论的重点都在於slash或是"歌迷们"(所谓的"歌迷们"对我并没有太大的影响),
但对我而言这都太狭隘了,会限制我的企图及感受.
对我而言这个版只是给别人讨论关於我的一些无聊传言,而很多人并不知道哪些事情
是可以相信的.
同时我也愿意让民众在我的鼓励下从这些东西中得到他们想要的,在事情变得
混乱之前.当然通常这是无法避免的.
(按:这一大段我不知道有没有误解axl的意思,因为怪怪的
我不太清楚他的"the boards"指的是讨论版还是唱片)
: Q: What effect do leaks REALLY have on the band/the album? There's a lot of
: speculation but no clear answer.
: Axl: Basically, for us it's devastating across the board. And when you have
: such a majority openly justifying their actions and throwing out nonsense,
: such as it's not actually stealing as the original is still with whomever,
: it's unbelievably insane. It exists because of the greed of the record
: industry, the greed of large-scale pirating, the ease and common nature now
: of the act itself and personal motivations such as popularity among certain
: groups, possible momentary media recognition etc. And it's too rampant and
: widespread. It's simply too huge a mess for the courts to deal with and in
: that with those numbers and the expense and manpower involved necessary at
: this time to curtail it... obviously there are more serious crimes for
: society to focus on. Besides, fuck musicians, right? If they didn't make
: enough already, then they probably suck anyway, right? "I ain't cryin' for no
: rich dude." Whatever. And who knows? What are our numbers on the torrent
: sites for this album? I don't know. So I don't know how or if it's affected
: us in terms of sales this time around. Maybe not, but with the economy and
: the core of our market, I'd think there's a possibility it has had a negative
: effect. Anyone?
问:之前的无码流出版对专辑或乐团有什麽影响吗?
艾:基本上这对我们的伤害很大.
但大多数人却还狡辩,说堆屁话,说三小虽然下载了但原版还在当事人手上,所以
并不算偷.(按:听不懂的请参考宋世杰关於窃取公文的辩解)
这实在是不可思议地有够鸡巴.
这种鸟事会存在是因为唱片工业、大规模盗版商的贪婪,容易下载、以及个人的动机
如博取版友欢迎或是炒作媒体的知名度等等.
并且也流传得太广了,要告起来也很费力,这社会也有很多其他的事情要处理.
除此之外,"干他妈的音乐家","如果他们做得不够好,那他们也是个烂东西"
"我不会为有钱人哭泣"三小之类的,对吧?
我们唱片的销售排名?谁知道呢?我不知道那会不会影响唱片的销售,至少目前
还不清楚,或许不会,但我想应该很有可能产生负面的影响.
: Q: Axl, I'd just like to say I feel that you have captured the mood and feel
: of J.D Sallinger's "Catcher in the Rye" perfectly. Why did you chose this
: book to reference as regards to "Chinese Democracy"?
: Axl: OK, I've never actually tried to put this into words this way before,
: and this'll probably get me in trouble with someone, but here goes...
: The piano started while watching a documentary or A&E type show on Chapman
: and wanting to write something for Lennon and his family.
: With the book, it started as fascination and curiosity with Holden Caufield
: Syndrome and what was or could possibly be in the book that obviously certain
: vulnerable people have seemed to become so passionate about and resort to
: outrageous public attempts or acts of violence. That and the question most
: have in regard to Lennon's death... Why?
: Can't say I have those answers, but I feel our song pays the emotional
: tribute to John Lennon in the end that I'd wanted to write since the night he
: was killed and also since first listening to Elton and Bernie's "Empty
: Garden".
问:为什麽想要把"Catcher in the Rye"放到「中国民主」中?
艾:ok,我本来不想把事情讲出来的,这可能会让我跟别人架梁子,不过
现在管他去死吧.
有次在看跟Chapman有关的纪录片或A&E type show什麽的时候,那个开头
的钢琴响起,我就想要写些什麽给约汉男脓跟他的家人.
读这本书时,我一开始是对Holden Caufield Syndrome,感到好奇.
书中想谈的似乎是一个脆弱的人也能变得很情感热切,并诉诸粗暴的举动甚至
是暴力行为.
这跟所有的疑问应该都跟男脓的死有关,对吗?
但我不能说我得到了解答,不过我想这首歌在情感上是向男脓致敬.
从他死的那一晚上以及第一次听到老屁眼 Elton 跟 Bernie的"empty garden"
时我就想写些什麽了.
: I read the book. I fell into a deep dark sleep. Went to the studio and sang
: as a joke what I refer to as the Holden parts off the top of my head and felt
: at the time, at least in my opinion, I had stumbled on a way of thinking that
: had a pattern and a flow but was broken up like a television station going
: out and coming back slightly off course intermittently and not making sense
: with its earlier portion.
我读了这本书.陷入了深深的长眠.进到录音室半开玩笑地唱了一些当时我脑子里对於
Holden的想法跟感觉.
当时脑子里有些段落跟思绪,但是却断断续续的,在当时对於这首歌并没有太多的意义.
: Where this unease helped to justify or even demand taking action and feeling
: the power of taking that action against whoever your mind felt was somehow
: involved or the root of this unease and alienation. Accompanied by a calming
: surreal almost religious (but totally insane) vibe I think that if some were
: to experience having limited capabilities, insecurities or are mentally and
: emotionally challenged in some way could find a false sense of solace and
: take comfort in like being on some type of drugs or meds but with an added
: completely false sense of an imagined calling or purpose. It certainly could
: and very well often would feel better than some individuals real world or
: having to experience or live with a clearer perspective of their true
: reality... All of which, of course, could be imagined and hooked together by
: events like Lennon's murder, reading the book, wanting to write a song about
: someone being insane, John Lennon, Chapman, people shooting people and
: watching Mel Gibson's "Conspiracy"! And when I got home, not in any dramatic
: way, but more like cleaning off the dinner table, I threw my book away.
: Don't know if any of that's really what any of that's about but that's how it
: hit me and just like an instant cake we got the basis for a song.
这股浮躁的感觉,让我有种想要做些什麽,或者是去对抗某个人的冲动,而这似乎是
这股不安跟错乱的根源.
这股平静却超现实、近乎信仰般(但却十分荒谬)的悸动,让我觉得可能某些人在遭遇
到无力、不安的感觉,或是精神及情绪上受到某种打击时,可能会去许找错误的慰藉
或用错误的方式得到安全感,例如嗑药,但是却在幻想出来的宿命或目的之中不断
的错误下去.
当然非常可能对这些人而言,这样的错误行为会比活在现实生活中来得轻松.
而这一堆事,都可以跟男脓的死、读这本书,或想要写些什麽给错乱的人、男脓、
杀男脓的人、枪杀别人的人,以及看没耳鸡巴森的"纳粹大屠杀"联想在一起.
当我到家时,就像清理餐桌一样平静地,我把书丢到一旁.
我不知道这些冲击是不是真的跟这首歌有关,但我在这之中得到了这首歌的基础.
: Q: What are your five favorite books?
: Axl: "The Stand", "A Scanner Darkly", "The Mutant King", "The Zodiac", "Mary
: Shelley's Frankenstein".
问:最喜欢的五本书?
艾:(按:我一本都没听过)
: Q: Will there ever be decent promo and interviews, etc. concerning this
: album, or is this it?
: Axl: There were, in my opinion, well-thought-out plans and strategies that
: unfortunately were ignored once we were pressing CDs. There will be proper
: interviews and some are already scheduled for much later intentionally. Good
: idea, bad… we'll see. I'm happy the record's out; the rest… one nightmare
: at a time.
问:会有正式的宣传跟访问吗?
艾:我想本来应该要有比较完整的宣传策略跟计画的,但很可惜的我们在印CD的时候
忽略了
(按:干你娘,你可以来台湾当阁员了orz.)
将来会有比较正式的访问跟宣传.
我很高兴唱片终於出来了,其他的...一场恶梦.
: Q: What part of guitar work for "There Was A Time" is yours?
: Axl: I wrote Robin's bit in the second verse. There's microscopic bits
: throughout usually woven down in the other guitars. The bits throughout the
: end, the basic power chord bit was originally mine. There's a ghost-like bit
: that formed the basis for the end vocal melody right before Robin's riff in
: one side in the outro before Bucket's solo and as it gets to the very end
: there's lots of little overdubbed bits woven in and out — very small, but
: structured bits.
问:TWAT哪部分的吉他是你弹的?
艾:我写了robin在第二段的部分.其他时候一直有很细微的部分穿插在其他吉他之间.
从头到尾的bits,打底的powerchord是我弹的.
(按:有人可以告诉我这个bits中文怎麽翻吗?)
在结尾的vocal部分有很小声的吉他,就在robin的riff之前,
还有outro桶头solo之前,
还有结尾前有许多粗糙的声音浮浮沈沈的,很小声,但是很重要的部分都是.
: Q: Which women influenced the writing of the new ballads.
: Axl: Ha! We'll get to these a bit later as they're a bit more complicated
: than a simple answer of a few names, but most are composites and became much
: more about the song than particular individuals. Also, again, I'd like people
: to have a chance to develop their own relationship with the material a bit.
: Not dodging, as most of these answers will come out over time.
问:那个女人对你写情歌影响最多.
艾:哈!或许等我的名单更长一点再来讨论这个问题比较好.
但大多数时候是混在一起写的,没有特别给谁.
同时,我也希望每个人都有机会有跟这些题材产生自己的联系
不是我要闪话题,大部分的答案时间到了自然会出现.
: Q: Any plans on updating the website to make it more... fan-friendly? And
: what ever happened to the fan club thing?
: Axl: I've started (again) recently to make an attempt to try and get
: something going there. It's been extremely frustrating. I've had ideas but
: former management went with theirs. Previous to what we have now, I've
: consistently had others attempt to pressure and railroad me into working with
: others that I chose not to as it was more about managerial control than a
: good website and not in my best interest, so the ideas get shelved and it
: generally just sits there. Plus, as frustrating as it was for everyone, it
: was not time to talk publicly. So it gets consistently shelved.
问:有想要更新网站的计画吗?
艾:我想要更动一些东西,不过之前的管理员就玩他们自己的,感觉满讨厌的.
因为之前有人要我跟一些我不想要的人一起合作,但我觉得这只是管理上
的问题而且我也没太大兴趣,所以事情跟网站就被搁在在那里.
: Q: What are your views on [VELVET REVOLVER's] "Contraband" and "Libertad"?
: Axl: I'll save this one. These are obviously highly charged areas and I'd
: rather take things one step at a time.
问:对於VELVET REVOLVER的两张唱片的看法.
艾:依法处理,谢谢指教.(仿自马总统平时闪话题时的发言)
: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&ne
: wsitemID=110812
: http://0rz.tw/405bm
: 有问到Silkworms会不会放到下张专辑中。XD
: 目前暂时没有巡回的计划。=_=
: Axl Rose提到他对中国的看法。:p
: Axl Rose说他在Chinese Democracy中唱最好的是There Was A Time,
: 最佳的合声是Catcher In The Rye。
: 再一次提到Oh My God这首歌。
: Axl Rose自己最想唱新专辑中的歌是This I Love。
: 又多提到了他自己的想法。 (by AnthonyL)
翻完觉得艾叔叔英文好棒,知道好多单字orz
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1F:推 lordlpg:推啊!原po真是太热血啦! 12/23 23:43
2F:推 loua:大推原po的翻译 12/24 00:01
3F:推 SOC:五本书里面最後一本是科学怪人 12/25 02:38
是喔@@?那我有看过,小学的时候,现在忘光了...
麦田捕手也是,高中看过,现在一个字都想不起来orz....
不过看完艾叔叔的说法
才了解原来这麽浅薄的歌词背後有那麽多的想法
算是意外的发现
平常都听陈昇的歌
陈昇的歌歌词里都会把故事跟想法交代得很清楚
所以不太能了解英文歌那种背後有很大含意或隐含其他故事的意境
像是"knockin` on heavens door"等
4F:→ wpd:常跟桶头去迪士尼.......桶头好认真..... 12/25 03:37
5F:推 wiredo:Zodiac是索命黄道带 12/25 03:42
这我真的没听过
倒是黄色录影带杀了我不少儿子
(向爱姐致敬)
6F:推 cathyche:原PO真厉害 我差点笑死XD 12/25 03:45
7F:推 nmrfarm:"A scanner Darkly"是Philip.K.Dick的科幻小说 12/25 07:01
8F:→ nmrfarm:中译:"心机扫描".06年拍成动画,主角找姬努李维演 12/25 07:02
9F:→ nmrfarm:故事也跟毒品脱不了关系就是了.. 12/25 07:02
10F:→ nmrfarm:还有"关键报告","银翼杀手"等等都是Philip的小说改编. 12/25 07:03
我就知道版上有高手
帮忙看一下我有没有弄错原意的地方吧
谢谢orz
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11F:推 lordlpg:2006那场有人向Axl丢东西,Axl不爽当场就结束演出 12/25 18:25
12F:→ lordlpg:Paul Huge後面有注明他曾经是GNR的吉他手 12/25 18:27
13F:推 harveyx:五本书後两本;索命黄道带、科学怪人 12/26 00:28
谢谢各位
顺便聊聊
有人看完catcher in the rye的歌词之後
想到aerosmith的"janie`s got a gun"吗?
※ 编辑: dondothat 来自: 140.112.130.51 (12/26 17:26)
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