※ 引述《gaviann (Gaviann)》之铭言： : 一狗票回答 on Reddit : 原讨论串(含问题列表) : http://tinyurl.com/ctvbf5m : Anet回答(有两页，起头在第二页) : http://tinyurl.com/cqvw2f7 : 简单重点 : * 我们从来没说过不会有垂直变动(数值增加) .... (Booo!) : * 我很抱歉，但asc会继续走下去 : * 其他部位asc会在明年陆续接露，取得方式也是 : * 不会有更高tier....but no promise (学乖了? 不把话说死) : * Agony system (gear check) 可能会改变 .... (太多人觉得grinding了) : * Bug还在修 (含one-time-event的reward) 文章太巨大 只节录Mike OBrien的回答(他是ANet老大) Hi! I'll respond to the top part since it's a quote from me. Obviously the key phrase I'm going to point you to in that quote is, "if someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can't realistically acquire it". That really is the litmus test we've used. That's why, at ship, we gave better stats to exotic gear and didn't give better stats to legendary gear. "HC玩家花1000小时获得的物品与一般玩家的物品只应该有视觉效果差异" 我们真的如此认为 因此上市时传奇与橘装数值相同 More generally, I hope we've been clear that GW2 is not a game with virtually no stat progression in it like GW1 was. That's why GW2 shipped with a higher level cap, and with a hard separation between PvE and PvP. In GW1 we never advanced the level cap through four campaigns/expansions. The game design didn't allow for it. But GW2 was designed without those restrictions, and we've always expected that we will someday raise the level cap in GW2. That's why we've always said that GW2 rewards players through both progression and collection, whereas GW1 primarily rewarded through collection. Presumably players aren't shocked that GW2 rewards through progression, since it has a level 80 cap. GW2不像GW1那样是没有数值progression的游戏 因此GW2有80级(GW1只有20)并将pve pvp完全分开 GW1的游戏设计中不容许等级上限提高 但是GW2没有这个限制 我们一直认为有天等级上限会提高 GW2奖励玩家的方式有progression和collection GW1则只有colletion GW2有80级 所以我们假定玩家不会对GW2的透过progression奖励玩家感到讶异 I wonder if the core sentiment is more this: It's only been two-and-a-half months! We don't even all have exotics yet, and already you're introducing another tier. Is this the start of a power progression curve that I'll never be able to keep up with? 我猜真正的问题是"才过2.5个月就有新tier 这会是我跟不上装备竞赛的开始吗?" I certainly appreciate that worry. I myself don't want a constant struggle, as exists in some other games, to keep my equipment viable. 我完全了解这个担忧 我自己也不想要像其他游戏那样需要一直费力跟上装备进度 Then we're left with a balancing act. Some progression is ok, but pushing players onto gear treadmill isn't ok and isn't what the game is about. 因此我们要解决的问题就是如何平衡这件事 少量的progression没问题 但是把玩家推去装备竞赛不ok 也不是这个游戏的意义 So I would ask you to judge us by details, and not by making slippery-slope arguments. We introduced a ton of new content in November, and the sum total of new progression rewards we added to go with it provided a 5-10% stat increase in 2 of 12 slots. I hope you'll agree that that kind of very shallow and gradual progression does not force people onto a gear treadmill. 所以我请你们从细节来评断我们 而不是全凭推断 我们在11月patch加入一堆content 而总progression只有12格装备中的两格的5-10%数值 希望你们也同意这种很浅且缓慢的progression并不会逼人去装备竞赛 I think it's important for GW2 to be able to have this kind of gradual progression. Of course we made some mistakes with the way we introduced ascended gear. (See ChrisW's answers for details.) But those are addressable issues. I don't think they invalidate the fundamental concept that GW2 can have gradual stat progression without being a gear treadmill game. 我认为GW2有这种缓慢的progression很重要 我们引入ascended装备的方式有错(Chris Whiteside有更详细回答) 但是这是可以修正的 我不认为这违反了GW2 "有缓慢数值progression又不是装备竞赛" 的基本理念 补充: (节录Chris Whiteside的回答) = ascended本来应该包含在上市版本内 = 没有计画增加新的rarity 而是慢慢扩充现有的rarity内物品复杂度 = 本来ascended计画由其他管道取得 但是sadly後来变成fotm取得 之後会由游戏其他方面加入ascended gear = 我们会很小心处理gear progression -- 国文不太好 大家加减看XD --

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