作者ckbbwtb (曲终人不散)
看板Grizzlies
标题NBA Trade Value by Bill Simmons
时间Wed May 15 05:11:09 2013
Bill Simmons,就是ESPN中场和Magic, Jalen Rose坐一起的那个白人娃娃脸
这位是还算有料的高级酸酸,文笔很好梗又多,但都是美国梗很难翻成中文...
(想像一下一篇充满了马囧传说和恰恰爆橘这类梗的中文文章要翻成英文...)
连结是从灰狼版看来的,找了一下前几天刚出完第三部分
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9186204/nba-trade-value-part-1
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9203345/nba-trade-value-part-2
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9261768/nba-trade-value-part-3
虎扑有第一部分的翻译,後面两个还没翻完
http://bbs.hupu.com/5564110.html
http://bbs.hupu.com/5579531.html
http://bbs.hupu.com/5601804.html
有兴趣的很建议看看,是打发时间兼学英文/美国文化的好材料
说实话他真的没怎麽在讨论trade value,说是漫谈还差不多...
节录几个灰熊的球员,有些地方因为时间点的关系所以加减看看吧。
(虎扑有翻的部分有些就借过来用了)
Honorable Mention: Z-Bo、TA、Conley (written in April 18)
(他这专栏写了一个月才写完,Conley季後赛的表现让他後面又提了一次)
TA
T.A. would have cracked the top 50 if he weren't an expiring contract — he's
recovered from last year's knee problem and back to being the League's Best
One-On-One Perimeter Defender Not Named LeBron. Memphis lost in seven to the
Clippers last spring for two reasons. First, Rudy Gay didn't just shit the
bed in that series; he whipped his feces at the ceiling fan so it sprayed all
over the arena. And second, Tony Allen wasn't healthy and couldn't bother
Chris Paul at all. This spring? He'll be bothering Chris Paul.
要不是他今年合约到期,TA可以挤进这个榜单的前五十名。他从去年膝盖的伤病中
复原,而且成为了联盟中除了LeBron之外最好的外围防守者。灰熊去年输给快艇有
两个原因:第一,Rudy Gay打得像坨屎;第二,TA不是100%,没办法给Chris Paul
带来困扰。今年呢?他会一直缠着Chris Paul的。
From a basketball standpoint, that's the best subplot of Round 1: Those 45 to
50 crunch-time possessions over seven games (and yes, it's going seven) when
Vinny Del Negro stares vacantly toward the floor with a gaze that says,
"Look, Chris, you know we don't have plays, you're just gonna have to do
something here" and then it turns into another mano-a-mano battle between
Chris and Tony. Think of them as two perfectly matched super lightweights
ready to kick the living basketball crap out of each other; they may as well
be Mike Alvarado and Brandon Rios. I'm fired up. Don't sleep on this series.
从篮球的角度来说,这是第一轮最棒的插曲:在七场大战中(是的,七场)总共大概
五十个关键play里,Vinny Del Negro会眼神空洞的看着地板说:「听着,Chris,你
知道我们没甚麽战术,你得自己想办法打出些名堂来。」然後就是Tony Aleen vs.
Chris Paul一场接一场的单挑。想像一下两个旗鼓相当的超级轻量级拳手,好比说
Mike Alvarado和Brandon Rios,他们都想用篮球把对方干掉。一想到这里我就热血沸
腾,千万别错过这个系列赛。
Z-Bo
The obvious signs of decline: Z-Bo was a 20-12 guy in 2011 (and shot 50
percent), and he's a 15-11 guy right now (and shooting 46 percent). Less
obvious: He's not the same crunch-time force anymore. Check out Z-Bo's
numbers in 2011; he was as good as anyone late. In 2013? You can't even find
him in the top 50 for anything other than rebounds. Throw in Z-Bo's salary
($17.8 million in 2014, $16.5 million in 2015) and he's suddenly an honorable
mention guy.8 If 2011 Z-Bo shows up for Round 1 this weekend, the Clippers
don't have a chance. But if 2013 Z-Bo shows up? They have a chance.
他有着显着的衰退徵兆:2011年的时候他是个20-12,五成命中率的球员;现在他是个
15-11的球员,命中率只剩46%。另外比较不明显的是,他在关键时刻的表现也不如以
往。在2011年他在关键时刻的表现和其他人一样好,但2013呢?除了篮板之外,他在
其他统计数据上连前五十都排不到。考量到他高额的薪水,他也没办法挤进这份榜单的
前五十名。如果2011年的Z-Bo出现在今年打第一轮,快艇一点机会都没有;但如果是
2013年的Z-Bo?他们或许有机可乘。
Quick Z-Bo story: We taped a mini–B.S. Report with him during All-Star
Weekend. He showed up with an oversize kid who looked about 13, only he was
taller than me. I asked if that was his son and Z-Bo said, "Yeah, that's
Little Z-Bo." When we finished the podcast, he said, "Come on, Little Z-Bo,
we gotta go." And they left. Here's my point: Either we need a reality show
with Z-Bo and Little Z-Bo or, at the very least, we need a music video along
the lines of this one:
一个关於Z-Bo的小故事:明星赛周末的时候,我和他录了一段mini-B.S. Report。
(译按:http://goo.gl/znftm,我没看)他带了一个看起来像是十三岁的孩子,只不
过他比我还高壮
(译按:Bill Simmons六尺一)。我问他这是不是他孩子,他说:「
是阿,这是小Z-Bo。」录影结束後,他说:「走吧,小Z-Bo。」然後他们就走了。我
的想法是:我们不是需要一个Z-Bo和小Z-Bo的实境秀,起码我们需要一个像这样的MV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SDzoLUzwMMI
Mike Conley Jr.
Assumed a Tony Parker–like level of offensive responsibility for a
legitimate 2013 Finals contender … but that's the same reason nobody thinks
Memphis can win the title. So I don't know what that means. More importantly,
where does Conley rank among the greatest athletes who tried to keep the
"Jr." going in their names? I have Cal Ripken Jr. first, Ken Griffey Jr.
second, Roy Jones Jr. third, Mike Conley Jr. fourth and Keith Closs Jr. last.
在一支足以问鼎2013年总冠军赛的球队里肩负Tony Parker等级的进攻重任...但这也
是为什麽没人看好灰熊能赢得冠军。好吧,我也不知道这是甚麽意思。更重要的是,
Conley会在那些「Jr.」运动员中排第几呢?我会说Cal Ripken Jr.第一,小葛瑞菲
第二,Roy Jones Jr.第三,Conley第四,Keith Closs Jr.最後。
(译按:前两个有在看MLB的应该都知道,Roy Jones Jr.是个拳击手,Keith Closs Jr.
请参考:http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/closske01.html)
(以下写於五月十号)
Even if I'm a charter member of the Rudy Gay Is Severely Overrated committee,
I never anticipated the addition-by-subtraction elements of that trade: (a)
Memphis becoming Conley's team, and (b) Conley making a semi-leap in the
playoffs for a legitimate contender. Throw in his suddenly agreeable contract
(three more years at $26.34 million combined) and he's absolutely a top-50
guy. If I had a do-over, I'd give him Paul Pierce's spot and stick Conley at
no. 37 in that Rondo/Chandler group. I'd also appreciate a do-over on this
tweet from two and a half years ago:
尽管我是「Rudy Gay被严重高估」的忠实支持者,我从没想过交易掉他能有另外两个
加分的效果:a)灰熊成了Conley的球队;b)Conely让这支冠军候选更进一步。考
量到他突然变得合理的薪水(还剩三年26M),他绝对有资格进入这份榜单的前五十
名。如果我重写一次,我会把它放在三十七名,取代Paul Pierce,和Rondo/Chandler
那组放在一起
(译按:请自行参考part 2)。我也希望能重写我两年半前的这条tweet
:
https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/29443984722
No. 14 Marc Gasol
Any pickup-basketball regular battles an ongoing dilemma: What's it worth to
keep playing for as long as possible? If it's super-crowded and you want to
stay on the court for a few games, you might suck it up and jump on a team
with Pickup Carmelo or Pickup Kobe — a.k.a. a one-on-one guy who will shoot
half your team's shots, only he's good enough that you might be able to ride
him for two straight hours. But if it's less crowded? You take your chances
with people who are fun to play with — a.k.a. unselfish guys who run the
floor, know how to pass and cut, keep the ball moving, don't take stupid
transition shots, and generally know what they're doing.
每个习惯在球场报队的人都会碰到这样的难题:在场上一直打的价值在哪里?如果是
个超级多人的场而你又想在场上多打几场,也许你会忍气吞声找一个三重Kobe或是台
中Melo之类的队友。他们是强大的一对一好手,会占掉全队半数的出手,但也是唯一
一个能让你霸场打两小时的队友。但如果是人没那麽多的场呢?你会找那种和他打球
很有趣的队友。他们不自私、愿意跑动、知道怎麽传球和空切、会转移球、快攻不会
乱来、而且通常很清楚他们自己在做甚麽。
And ideally, this is what happens: A few times per year, you'll find the
right four guys on a crowded day, everything will click, you'll turn into the
'77 Blazers, and you end up laying the smack down, 2013 Heat–style, for six
or seven straight.
这是理想中该发生的情节:每年总有几次,在一个人很多的场,你会找到四个对的队
友,你们默契浑然天成,打的就像77年的拓荒者一样,然後就像今年热火一样,连赢
六七场比赛。
It's just the best day you can have. It's the greatest. You limp out of there
beaming, and when your wife or girlfriend asks you later that night why
you're so damned happy, you can't even properly explain it. How can you
explain total bliss? I love playing basketball — even now, with my body
breaking down and my game decaying to alarming degrees — if only because
it's one of the few places left on earth where you can connect with total
strangers like that. Age doesn't matter, backgrounds don't matter, nothing
matters. You have four teammates, they can be anybody, and you either know
how to click with them or you don't.
这会是再好不过的一天,超爽的。你累瘫了可是非常开心,回家的时候老婆或女友问
你怎麽这麽嗨,你却没办法清楚解释这件事情。你要怎麽解释上天的赐福?我很爱打
篮球(虽然我身体已经快不行了),因为这是世界上唯一一处,你可以和陌生人那样
的连结在一起。年纪不是问题,出身背景不是问题,没甚麽会是问题。你有四个队友
,他们可以是任何人,你可能可以和他们打起来有fu,也可能没有。
That's what makes Marc Gasol special, and that's why you can't totally
measure him with stats. I voted for him as my first-team All-NBA center. Why?
Because he can blend in with any four guys in the league. He'll anchor your
defense, grab some rebounds, make every smart pass, post up when you need
him. He's a phenomenal leader and chemistry guy. And he's malleable.
这就是Marc Gasol的特别之处,这也是为什麽你无法全然用数字来衡量他。我把年度
第一队中锋的票给了他。理由?因为他可以融入联盟中任何四个人,他会为你的防守
定调、抓几个篮板、传几个好球、当你需要的时候他还可以打低位。他是个非凡的领
导者,也是可以引起化学反应的那个人,可以满足你任何的需求。
For instance, Memphis spent much of the past three years playing a deadly
high-low game with Z-Bo down low and Gasol up top, where his passing makes
him a weapon. After two straight losses to the Clippers, Memphis switched
things around and stuck Gasol down low. That worked, too. So far in the
Thunder series, they've been riding Gasol's offense against the Completely &
Irrevocably Washed-Up Kendrick Perkins; when the Thunder finally adjust and
go small (you know it's coming), Gasol will make the necessary tweaks and
figure out a different way to affect the series. Do whatever you want with
that dude, it's gonna work. Bill Russell, Bill Walton and Tim Duncan are the
three greatest "You'd Want to Play Hoops With Them" big guys ever, but Marc
Gasol is no slouch. Remember we had this conversation if you're saying, "I
can't believe we have a Miami-Memphis Finals!" in three weeks.
举例来说吧,灰熊过去三年中大部分的高低位都是Z-Bo在低位,Gasol在高位。他的传
球能力让他成为场上的进攻武器。在连续两次输给快艇之後,灰熊互换了他们两个的
位置,让Gasol去站低位。而这样也运作良好。到目前为止和雷霆的系列赛中,灰熊让
Gasol去攻击那个已经完全不行了的Perk;当雷霆最终开始打小球的时候(你知道他们
会这麽做的),Gasol会做出适当的调整并且找到另一个方式来帮助球队。你可以让他
做任何事,都不会有问题。Bill Russel、Billl Walton和Tim Duncan是这类球员中最
棒的三个大个子,而Marc Gasol一点也不输他们。记好这段话,特别是当你三个礼拜
後说出「我从没想过冠军赛是灰熊对热火!」的时候。
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※ 编辑: ckbbwtb 来自: 67.187.92.197 (05/15 05:13)
1F:推 derwy:推...Simmons的文章梗多又长,感谢翻译~ 05/15 05:53
2F:推 Scinfaxi:感谢翻译...不过以前我真的觉得他有点乌鸦嘴 = = 05/15 11:54
3F:推 monkeyleo:推~ 05/15 15:22
4F:推 zzzzz533:推个 05/15 15:29
5F:推 wjs022:Vinny Del Negro严重中枪XD 05/15 16:26
6F:推 jason780419:推~ 05/15 19:08
7F:推 duke7814:Del Negro不意外啊 本来就没什麽料 05/15 20:29
8F:推 bow231:推翻译!虽然够毒蛇针针见血,但也够中肯! 05/15 20:42
9F:推 wsx89589468:虽然现在讲有点晚了,不过Z-Bo季後赛感觉像是回到了 05/16 02:08
10F:→ wsx89589468:两年前一样,真的是拼了全力呢Z-Bo 05/16 02:09
11F:推 JoshSmith:我从没想过冠军赛是灰熊对热火! 05/17 00:27