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标题[转录][新闻] Ralph Nader宣布参选
时间Mon Feb 25 11:55:11 2008
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作者: swallow73 (吃素,减碳,救地球) 看板: IA
标题: [新闻] Ralph Nader宣布参选
时间: Mon Feb 25 06:22:28 2008
帅呀,Nader爷爷,最後那句"The only aging is the erosion of the one's ideals."
实在是太棒了。只可惜在现实情势下,Nader爷爷要当选需要靠外星人派几打
幽浮来抓美国人上去做点心灵提升工作。
民主党人指控他执意参选,分食了不少高尔选票,才导致布希当选,造就了灾难
性的侵伊战争;这种指控令我颇为反感。这代表民主党人没有勇气用理念辩论
跟实质改革去跟Nader争取Nader的支持者,单纯企图用恐惧将理念上支持Nader的选民
绑在自己的阵营下;也是一种看准了在现有选制下,Nader的选民若是不喜欢共和党
掌权,就只有投民主党的傲慢心态。
2004年Nader参选时发生过一些有趣的现象:在部份地区保守派人士主动出来帮比民主党
更左翼的Nader募款与连署让他的名字出现在选票上;相对的民主党则全力反制,甚至
还打官司阻止这位立场理应跟自己较接近的候选人能够有发声的机会。最後是民主
党操作成功,Nader的得票从2000年的2.3%降到2004年的0.3%。
说来这种事情实在是很让人失望,即是一位候选人代表的是相对进步的声音,在选制
下却毫无发挥的余地,部份选民若是支持这样的理念,就得承受会因此促成两位主流
候选人中较糟糕的那位当选的後果。等同是选制强迫这股少数,即使是较进步的力量保
持沉默。
要解决这样的问题采取类似法国的两轮投票制度是一个解决方法,但身为现制受益者
的两大党主动愿意改革的机会极微。若我是欣赏Nader的民主党选民,
我会考虑投Nader一票,给民主党良心上的刺激,反正都忍受Bush八年了,McCain
应该也不会糟糕到哪里去。或许经过几次选票被瓜分而落选的惨痛经历後,他们会
懂得尊重这些少数的声音,不管是作出政策上的改革,或者是,最好的,改良选制。
只要他们愿意让这些选民在第一轮投票忠实的表达自己的心声,相信这些选民也愿意
在第二轮投票中予以回馈。
标题:Nader to Run Again
新闻来源:The New York Times
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/nader-to-run-again/
(需有正确连结)
“Dissent is the mother of assent,” Ralph Nader said on “Meet the Press”
this morning. “And in that context, I have decided to run for president.”
Beginning his third third-party run in as many presidential elections, Mr.
Nader, a consumer advocate, cited a litany of issues he feels have been “
taken off the table,” including single-payer health care, the war, labor law
reform, and “cracking down on corporate crime.”
Mr. Nader is still blamed by many Democrats around the country for siphoning
votes from Al Gore in 2000. Asked about this by Tim Russert, the host of the
NBC show, he replied, “Not George Bush? Not the Democrats in Congress? Not
the Democrats who voted for George Bush?,” before listing several other
factors that would have led to Mr. Gore’s victory and accusing people
opposed to his candidacy of “political bigotry.” But ultimately, he said, “
Let’s get over it and try to have a diverse, multiple votes, multiple choice
ballot like they do in Europe.”
He ruled out the possibility that he would prevent a Democratic victory in
2008.“Not a chance,” he said. “If the Democrats can’t landslide the
Republicans this year, they ought to just pack up, close down, and re-emerge
in a different form.”
Mr. Nader said that there are differences between Senator John McCain, the
presumptive Republican nominee, and Senator Barack Obama.
“There are differences obviously. The question is not whether there are
differences verbally or what they put on their Web site. Senator Obama’s
record has not been challenging,” he said, adding, “The issue is whether
they have the moral courage.”
He called Mr. Obama a “person of substance” and the “first liberal
evangelist in a long time,” but said, “His better instincts have been
censored, I think, by himself.”
“Meet the Press” played a video clip of Mr. Obama answering a question
about a possible Nader candidacy on Friday:
You know, he had called me and I think reached out to my campaign — my sense
is is that Mr. Nader is somebody who, if you don’t listen and adopt all of
his policies, thinks you’re not substantive. He seems to have a pretty high
opinion of his own work. Now — and by the way, I have to say that,
historically, he is a singular figure in American politics and has done as
much as just about anybody on behalf of consumers. So in many ways he is a
heroic figure and I don’t mean to diminish him. But I do think there is a
sense now that if somebody is not hewing to the Ralph Nader agenda, then you
must be lacking in some way.
Mr. Nader’s constituency appears to have eroded somewhat. He received 2.7
percent of the vote as a Green Party candidate in 2000, but in 2004, he
received only 0.3 percent, and he was not on the ballot in every state.
Asked about his age (he will turn 74 on Wednesday), Mr. Nader said, “The
only aging is the erosion of one’s ideals.”
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