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杜鲁门总统:蒋介石一家都是贼! 这篇是纽约时报在蒋宋美龄过世时, 花了相当大的篇幅在说一些台湾人所不知的蒋家历史 (跟教科书上的内容可是相差甚远XD) Madame Chiang Kai-shek, a Power in Husband's China and Abroad, Dies at 105 By SETH FAISON October 25, 2003, Saturday http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/24/international/asia/24CHIANG.html?pagewanted=1&hp 标题:蒋女士,105,中国领导人的寡妇,死亡 Yet historians have documented the murderous path that Chiang Kai-shek led in his efforts to win, then keep, and ultimately lose power. It also became clear in later years that the Chiang family had pocketed hundreds of millions of dollars of American aid intended for the war. 但是历史学家们纪录了蒋介石以残杀手腕,赢取,保有,最终失去权力的过程。 後来几年,事情变得明朗化,蒋氏家庭A了好几亿用来支援中国抗日和打共产党 战争的美援。 ...... Although Madame Chiang developed a stellar image with the American public, Presimdent Franklin D. Roosevelt and other leaders became disillusioned with her and her husband's despotic and corrupt practices. Eleanor Roosevelt was shocked at Madame Chiang's answer when asked at a dinner at the White House how the Chinese Government would handle a strike by coal miners. Madame Chiang silently drew a sharp fingernail across her neck. "She can talk beautifully about democracy," Mrs. Roosevelt said later. "But she does not know how to live democracy." 虽然蒋女士在美国的公众舆论里有一种明星般的形象,法兰克福‧罗斯福总统和其它领袖 们,对她和她丈夫专制和腐败的作为感到幻灭。Eleanor罗斯福女士在一场白 宫晚餐中,当问到蒋女士中国政府要如何处理煤矿工人罢工问题的时感到惊恐:蒋女士不 发一语,用尖锐的指甲在她的脖子前比了一比。 「她可以把民主谈得很漂亮,但是她不知道如何生活在民主政治里」罗斯福女士事後说。 ...... By the end of the war, the loyalty of Nationalist officials melted away as the Government grew corrupt and fiscally traitorous, printing money so aggressively that the Chinese currency fell to an exchange rate of several million yuan to the dollar. Many Nationalist soldiers were reduced to begging for food because they went unpaid, yet American diplomats discovered that military supplies sent from the United States to China sometimes appeared on the black market soon after arrival. 战争结束前夕,国民政府的官员们对政府的忠诚已消失殆尽。政府愈来愈贪婪, 甚至在财政上叛国,贪得无厌的印钞票,使得中国对美金的汇率跌到只剩好几百万分之一。 许多国民政府的军队因没有薪水而被迫乞讨,但是美国外交官员们发现, 从美国送去中国的军事补给,有时在一抵达中国就出现在黑市上。 ...... Even at the busiest times of war, Madame Chiang often left her husband and disappeared into seclusion in New York for months at a time. The Chiang camp was too secretive to deny rumors about marital troubles, but Madame Chiang's retreats may also have been caused by a debilitating skin condition. 即使再战争最紧张的时刻,蒋女士也经常离开她的丈夫, 忽然消失在纽约几个月,蒋帮因为太神秘而无能反驳有关他们婚姻的谣言, 但是蒋女士的自动消失,或许也肇因於她日益恶化的皮肤状况。 ...... Madame Chiang went out shopping in her limousine one afternoon, and did not return home by evening. 在上海时,那天蒋女士如常地坐着她的大型加长Limousine上街购物... (这段讲到她和毒贩头子杜月笙的恩怨) ..... Madame Chiang made a splash in Washington soon afterward. She spoke forcefully and passionately to Congress, winning a roaring ovation. She then traveled across the country, appearing at Madison Square Garden and at the Hollywood Bowl. But she earned the enmity of American G.I.'s when she returned to China's wartime capital, Chungking, with several suitcases, one of which plopped open to reveal luxurious cosmetics, lingerie and fancy groceries. It was a small sign of the growing corruption within the Nationalists that would speed their undoing. 蒋女士很快的在华府引起风潮,她在国会强有力和热情的演说,引起了如雷的掌声, 她然後横越整个国家,出现在麦迪逊花园广场和好莱屋Bowl。 但是她同时却引起了美国军人对她的厌恶,尤其是她回到战时的首都重庆, 带着许多箱的皮箱,其中一个撑开来,露出了里面奢华的化妆品,私人衣物*[0m 和时髦昂贵的日用品。 *[31;1m这只是国民政府正迅速的走向自我毁灭,逐渐腐败的小警讯。 *[0m ...... Other American officials in China also warned against the vast amounts of graft among Nationalists. More than $3 billion was appropriated to China during the war, and most of it was transmitted through T.V. Soong, who as China's foreign minister was based in Washington. It later became apparent that the Soong family suffered vicious infighting over the purloined funds. 其他在中国的美国官员也对国民政府偷鸡摸狗的腐败行径发出警告。 美国在战时,支援中国超过三十亿美元,但是大多数都是宋子文经手, 宋是中国住在华府的财政首长。後来事实显示,宋家为了分赃这些A来的 美援,搞得家庭很不愉快。 ...... Madame Chiang traveled to Washington again in November 1948 to plead for emergency aid for the war against the Communists. Yet Congress had recently assigned another $1 billion to China, and President Truman was impatient with the Chiangs and what had become an apparently hopeless effort to shore up the Nationalist Government. Madame Chiang never returned to China. 蒋女士在1948年十月到华府来要钱打共产党,但是美国国会才通过对中国的*[0m 十亿援助,此时楚门 (注:教科书翻译为「杜鲁门」) 总统对蒋家夫妇已经 非常没有耐心,给蒋家钱对於支持国民民政府根本没有一点帮助。 蒋女士从此没有再回到中国。 "I can ask the American people for nothing more," she said. "It is either in your hearts to love us, or your hearts have been turned from us." 蒋女士说: 「我不会在向美国人要什麽了,要不是你们爱我们,要不就是你们的心已背离 了我们。」 In her frustration, she publicly likened American politics to 'clodhopping boorishness." Coming after years of generous American support, that irritated Truman. 挫折之下,她公开的将美国政治比喻成「无耻的粗鄙无文」。美国多年来对 蒋家这样大方的支持,竟然换得这样的评价,这激怒了楚门。 "They're thieves, every damn one of them," Mr. Truman said later, referring to Nationalist leaders. "They stole $750 million out of the billions that we sent to Chiang. They stole it, and it's invested in real estate down in SAao Paolo and some right here in New York." 「他们是贼,她们每一个人都是贼」,楚门指的是国民政府的领导人, 「他们从我们送给蒋政府的上十亿美金里,偷取了将近七亿五千万美金。 他们偷了这笔钱,而且将这笔钱投资在巴西的圣保罗,以及就在这里, 纽约的房地产。」 译者:Fine Tea ========================================= 注1.XX家族在美国早就是有名的贪污集团。 有传闻说某蒋是因为在中国太过贪污腐败所以才导致失去政权, (由上面内容也可以印证) 不过这段历史是绝对不会出现在被窜改过的历史教科书中。 注2.罗斯福夫人对蒋宋美龄的印象是出现在她的回忆录中提到的, 当时罗斯福夫人正对美国当时一位劳工团体领袖大伤脑筋, 正好遇到蒋宋美龄来访,宴客中,罗斯福夫人就顺口提起说如果这类人物在中国, 你们会如何处理,後续内容就如上所形容的,罗斯福夫人後来回忆起说,实在对 蒋宋美龄那双纤纤玉手所摆出的动作印象深刻。 --



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1F:推 coldtess:这很八卦啊 推一下 59.104.215.56 12/16 00:01
2F:推 CHTM:同样也是娶了宋家人的孙文 不晓得有没有贪 140.112.5.73 12/16 00:00
3F:推 adam0716:转到吱吱版可能不错 220.132.137.71 12/16 00:01
4F:推 kpshiu:痿哉蒋皇 218.174.165.51 12/16 00:02
5F:推 Lucianbear:孙文?啧啧啧~也是贪名在外阿~220.139.151.146 12/16 00:02
6F:→ AnyTime:M吧~~~ 61.58.181.159 12/16 00:02
7F:推 vincentgallo:真的是相差胜远@@222.157.168.146 12/16 00:03
8F:推 log1118:M吧 218.170.16.101 12/16 00:05
9F:推 shan07:当时的7亿美金再再换算是多少阿??218.174.159.194 12/16 00:06
10F:推 ppc:都是阿扁的错呀 61.230.218.11 12/16 00:07
11F:推 Wraither:好八卦喔 XD 140.122.229.72 12/16 00:07
12F:推 Schnell:这才是看鱼逆游的小孩真相啊 59.126.47.137 12/16 00:07
13F:→ mackulkov:OP 可以不要在战死人了好吗? 61.230.179.235 12/16 00:07
14F:推 ttk620:嗯 本来就是这样XD 220.229.82.96 12/16 00:08
15F:→ ttk620:真期待独立後的中国史会怎麽写....:P 220.229.82.96 12/16 00:09
16F:→ syura945:官方说法:宋家、孔家在美是白手起家 211.20.105.37 12/16 00:09
17F:推 Annrod:原来希特勒在他一死,全世界的人都不准说他 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:09
18F:→ Annrod:实话了(笔记) 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:10
19F:推 bananaskin:网站的原文要收钱~可以寄给我吗? 219.81.167.66 12/16 00:09
20F:推 secretbear:全台最大的坟墓 61.57.132.189 12/16 00:09
21F:推 Wingx:跟我听到的差不多 218.175.159.67 12/16 00:11
22F:推 vibba:以前的时代就是这麽黑 黑到你不敢想像 220.133.24.112 12/16 00:10
23F:→ Annrod:b兄抱歉我也没有捏XD 强者是译者他有Orz 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:11
24F:推 gdgy:萎哉民族救星!140.113.194.195 12/16 00:11
25F:→ syura945:这内容google应该满多的 211.20.105.37 12/16 00:12
26F:推 LEDG:蒋中正应该抓起来边屍 暴君!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 61.228.190.153 12/16 00:12
27F:推 aegis144:这不是很久了....125.228.145.247 12/16 00:13
28F:推 ttk620:要不是他选对边, 现在地位应该跟希特勒一样 220.229.82.96 12/16 00:13
29F:→ ttk620:只能说 美帝影响了中国历史XDD 220.229.82.96 12/16 00:13
30F:推 shinyili:版主M文 好黑的八卦 140.119.138.66 12/16 00:14
31F:推 Annrod:这就是为什麽某党不断灌输日本南京大屠杀的 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:14
32F:→ Annrod:历史,结果在提到228和白色恐怖时,马上叫 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:15
33F:推 gdgy:某党:有人的教科书篡改史实140.113.194.195 12/16 00:15
34F:→ Annrod:人不要只看过去,要往前看囧 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:16
35F:推 ttk620:不能这麽说啦 屠杀都是真的 220.229.82.96 12/16 00:16
36F:→ ttk620:一直回首是看不到未来的 220.229.82.96 12/16 00:17
37F:→ Annrod:不是在说那段历史是假的XD 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:17
38F:→ Annrod:而是历史是借镜,本来所有的历史都应该了解 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:17
39F:→ Annrod:而不是偏颇的写出只想让人知道的一些片段而 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:18
40F:推 roroccc:报纸之前有写过吧 122.127.2.83 12/16 00:18
41F:推 edisgood:果然是民族救星 220.128.197.38 12/16 00:18
42F:→ Annrod:已。 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:18
43F:推 sqnl:狗咬狗 一嘴毛 218.171.138.48 12/16 00:18
44F:→ reallurker:连结进不去 203.73.207.168 12/16 00:19
45F:推 ktblast:居然没人护航..真难得..唉..陈家差得远呢~ 61.231.29.69 12/16 00:19
46F:推 ttk620:是啊 没办法以前都是为了反攻的大中国教育 220.229.82.96 12/16 00:19
47F:推 sthouse:你要贴去政黑板会开始会吱吱叫了 220.133.58.241 12/16 00:20
48F:→ discoveryray:马英囧要负责!!!马小囧下台!!! 59.104.212.83 12/16 00:20
49F:→ ttk620:现在的课本已经对台湾着墨颇多了 ~ 220.229.82.96 12/16 00:20
50F:推 gdgy:支那人看日本"人不要只看过去,要往前看"?140.113.194.195 12/16 00:20
51F:推 Annrod:等等再来po另一篇XD 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:21
52F:→ LEDG:===========我猜这篇会爆掉================= 61.228.190.153 12/16 00:21
53F:→ ttk620:其实所有历史都要了解是不太可能的:P 220.229.82.96 12/16 00:22
54F:推 bananaskin:让他爆~让他爆 219.81.167.66 12/16 00:22
55F:推 Wraither:期待下一篇@@ 140.122.229.72 12/16 00:22
56F:推 DK2s:呸他个民族救星...有够黑 124.8.25.212 12/16 00:22
57F:推 sthouse:现在就贴吧...还等一下哩 快快快 220.133.58.241 12/16 00:22
58F:→ Annrod:的确,历史事实上看本国的不准(尤其如果是 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:22
59F:推 catcatdog:唉押 手滑不小心按到推了^^" 59.104.15.187 12/16 00:23
60F:→ bananaskin:我觉得也不是啥坏事~不要神化任何人 219.81.167.66 12/16 00:23
61F:→ Annrod:极权国家的话) 要看外国人写的才客观 61.60.222.75 12/16 00:23
62F:→ bananaskin:才是民主吧 219.81.167.66 12/16 00:23
63F:推 qwd:猜猜看板主会不会砍文。 220.143.146.36 12/16 00:24
64F:推 jakevin:推 125.232.96.132 12/16 00:24
65F:推 kodato: 163.23.223.165 12/16 00:25
66F:推 Kimchi9527:wow~ 125.232.144.95 12/16 00:25
67F:推 snocia:有一段我国中历史老师就说过了说... 61.217.89.5 12/16 00:24
68F:推 Homepage:怎麽没人来鞭一下蒋家 61.225.8.17 12/16 00:26
69F:推 secretbear:因为是被从中国赶来台湾的民族救星阿 61.57.132.189 12/16 00:27
70F:推 gdgy:我只是好奇LP涂猪油是不是真的呀?140.113.194.195 12/16 00:27
71F:推 MAXPONGPONG:介石塚218.168.182.234 12/16 00:28
72F:推 popux:蒋中出其实是法西斯政权 203.203.40.17 12/16 00:28
73F:→ popux:狗民党一直说不要看历史 一直讲5000年不知道 203.203.40.17 12/16 00:29
74F:→ popux:是谁 203.203.40.17 12/16 00:30
75F:推 hohohahe:这麽八卦怎没M!!! 61.64.102.141 12/16 00:30
76F:推 FCKDIY:@@125.229.162.211 12/16 00:33
77F:推 popux:人渣一枚 203.203.40.17 12/16 00:34
78F:推 scott1man:感谢! 还是我第一次看见这样的文章 61.217.160.81 12/16 00:34
79F:→ popux:奖女士那个我听我妈讲过 203.203.40.17 12/16 00:35
80F:→ scott1man:感谢看到以前不知道的真相 <(_ _)> 61.217.160.81 12/16 00:36
81F:推 popux:还有某K党拿它跟吴淑真比 203.203.40.17 12/16 00:36
82F:推 zipperlow:蒋屠夫与他的特工儿子 61.230.109.6 12/16 00:37
83F:推 AnyTime:原文贴在雪儿版罗 想帮忙翻译的去拿吧!!! 61.58.181.159 12/16 00:39
84F:推 slimeow:蒋宋家庭包括神猪名牌奢华就是有品味高贵, 69.137.219.251 12/16 00:39
85F:→ slimeow:阿珍阿扁就是贪污低俗不要脸,唉这就是媒体 69.137.219.251 12/16 00:40
86F:→ slimeow:很多支那蓝血人一直用奋华攻击现在第一家 69.137.219.251 12/16 00:41
87F:→ slimeow:庭,殊不知凭阿扁海商法积攒和阿珍的家世, 69.137.219.251 12/16 00:42
88F:推 midstrong:这在八卦版出现好多次了,标准回娘家文140.113.196.215 12/16 00:42
89F:→ slimeow:就算不从政,日子可以过得比现在更舒服 69.137.219.251 12/16 00:43
90F:推 freemanx:我好奇蒋夫人消失的时候跟杜月生…??? 61.224.206.207 12/16 00:43
91F:推 JoKouBe: 推推 妈的死蒋光头 218.165.91.113 12/16 00:45
92F:推 popux:蒋中出 人渣 203.203.40.17 12/16 00:46
93F:推 iamsosorry:这已经是常识了.. 125.231.114.91 12/16 00:48
94F:推 charia:推 61.229.229.140 12/16 00:48
95F:推 layin:常识?...囧rz第一次听到呢!~推 61.216.215.148 12/16 00:56
96F:推 dodo38yeh:拜托不要再有这种人了T_T 218.34.239.247 12/16 00:57
97F:→ oldlove:人家说什麽就信? 218.166.134.7 12/16 00:58
98F:推 iorinick:N年前就知道蒋介石不是什麽好东西140.116.117.143 12/16 01:06
99F:推 cubprior:这年头大家都在比烂 冏 203.203.248.82 12/16 01:08
100F:推 l78:往前看就先从蒋友柏开刀 跟他拿祖产 59.124.156.28 12/16 01:09
101F:推 qoomiky:年轻一辈的很多都不知道218.172.213.201 12/16 01:17
102F:推 slimeow:信纽约时报总比信支那中时联合要来得可靠 69.137.219.251 12/16 01:21
103F:推 mko0:推 有八卦到XD 140.122.30.53 12/16 01:26
104F:推 farnorth:这篇有有看过 小有印象 感谢原po 218.162.174.71 12/16 01:28
105F:推 wholmes:靠 怎麽我知道的是杜鲁门骂的是孔宋家族阿140.121.213.157 12/16 01:30
106F:→ cindytw:原来将企业低价转让所收取的回馈比海商法 61.228.51.201 12/16 01:35
107F:→ cindytw:积攒和阿珍家世还来得少阿...酷馁!! 61.228.51.201 12/16 01:36
108F:推 shinyili:版主 M文吧 这里有好大的八卦你没看到 140.119.138.66 12/16 01:38
109F:推 godnessman:我都以为这已经是尝试了说~~囧 220.132.162.47 12/16 01:39
110F:→ Annrod:我怎麽觉得一般人认为蒋家清廉才是常识XD 61.60.222.75 12/16 01:44
111F:推 slimeow:cindy小是在说国民党贱卖党产吗? 69.137.219.251 12/16 01:45
112F:推 wholmes:坦白讲 就个人而言 老蒋小蒋 我是肯定的140.121.213.157 12/16 01:45
113F:→ wholmes:但若是蒋家的范围包含孔宋那当然没话说140.121.213.157 12/16 01:45
114F:→ slimeow:老蒋小蒋清廉?整个国家等於党产家产何必贪 69.137.219.251 12/16 01:46
115F:推 wholmes:嗯 我错了 抱歉140.121.213.157 12/16 01:49
Proteome:转录至看板 KMT 12/16 02:17 Proteome:转录至看板 a-bian 12/16 02:17
116F:推 jerryen:所以国家不是阿扁的 阿扁要尽量贪?140.116.142.128 12/16 02:19
117F:→ jerryen:还真是贪污无罪 骗人有理啊!140.116.142.128 12/16 02:19
118F:推 lucifermoon:推 59.115.54.87 12/16 02:31
119F:推 ventelp:大家一起来比烂 220.138.58.13 12/16 02:31
120F:推 mstar:某 j 的逻辑真是好啊~ 61.229.24.53 12/16 02:42
121F:推 bordergogo:蒋光头本来就该死 盖大墓给他做啥218.165.104.117 12/16 03:01
122F:推 mmeow: 很不意外220.228.157.105 12/16 03:23
123F:推 Ecnar:当初在大陆,三百万大军不到三个月减到20万 124.8.166.195 12/16 03:42
124F:→ Ecnar:然後播迁来台,这在全世界战史上是头一遭 124.8.166.195 12/16 03:42
125F:→ Ecnar:为什麽?贪呐!老蒋贪?大家该去看看下面的 124.8.166.195 12/16 03:43
126F:→ Ecnar:贪法...要不然老毛也不会赢得这麽轻松 124.8.166.195 12/16 03:44
127F:推 smarten:这应该要让台湾人世世代代知道!! 61.229.59.204 12/16 04:04
128F:推 Kati:推140.113.191.217 12/16 04:13
129F:推 meteoroid:推218.164.146.211 12/16 05:09
130F:推 cycu0315:推 59.115.17.171 12/16 09:39
131F:推 greenpig:我平常都是叫他蒋贼的,推 210.58.157.149 12/16 10:02
132F:推 akayan:真要推一下Annrod 61.217.195.33 12/16 10:39
133F:推 agroupee:推140.116.214.148 12/16 11:39
134F:推 fellboy:真相推140.117.156.188 12/16 13:10
135F:推 tenshoufly:推 59.114.22.139 12/16 13:21
tenshoufly:转录至看板 HatePolitics 12/16 13:21
136F:推 megamind:痿哉!民族救星 140.112.19.196 12/16 14:07
137F:推 DLowe:大家听歌息怒 http://tinyurl.com/ygkpqc125.225.160.218 12/16 14:36
138F:推 tedoliver:这不推不行 219.86.36.252 12/16 15:27
139F:推 cyscyscys:帮推一个!! 210.85.96.24 12/16 16:00
140F:推 popux:爆吧 203.203.40.17 12/16 16:29
141F:推 popux:推推推 203.203.40.17 12/16 16:32
142F:推 titlis:蒋氏一家是贼是屠夫!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 61.224.55.147 12/16 17:29
143F:推 cheric:真正的历史阿.......218.165.121.225 12/16 19:16
144F:→ CaoPi:我平常都是叫他秃驴蒋的,推 218.174.196.39 12/16 19:27
145F:推 renji:将开削人渣 134.208.29.184 12/16 20:13
146F:推 mayilovehe: 台湾人都该知道历史的真相140.116.144.145 12/16 22:16
147F:推 peach0924:蒋介石烂的事情我从小听我爸讲到大220.132.151.224 12/16 22:33
148F:推 tomin:推 140.119.205.9 12/17 00:40
149F:推 Finarfin:这本来就是事实阿 偏偏还有人把蒋当神一 61.230.80.215 12/17 01:09
150F:→ Finarfin:样在拜 现在的扁也稿坏名声了  61.230.80.215 12/17 01:09
151F:推 wzw:push140.112.211.126 12/17 13:26
152F:推 inung:这并没有什麽阿,国民党政府及蒋家在美国的218.174.158.233 12/17 18:56
153F:→ inung:贪腐形象正是後来丢失政权的最大原因之一阿218.174.158.233 12/17 18:57
154F:推 WinniBear:借转...3Q 218.175.27.58 12/17 22:31
WinniBear:转录至看板 DPP 12/17 22:31
155F:推 minifish1228:推阿220.135.104.234 12/17 23:50
156F:推 WineCheese:好八卦~ 218.168.124.57 12/18 01:19
157F:推 qianxin:推!!218.169.141.206 12/18 18:25
db:转录至某隐形看板 12/18 21:01
158F:推 fct:想起小时候歌颂蒋介石的歌一整个恶心... 140.112.25.179 12/27 13:57
159F:推 montrachet:无聊~ 01/02 22:24
160F:推 sharkimage:推 05/05 06:01







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