作者yujungc (羽绒)
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标题Re: [问题] 阅读一题问题 关於"negative finding"
时间Thu Jan 28 19:04:48 2016
※ 引述《SuperMaster (神手)》之铭言:
: Although the hormone adrenaline is known to regulate
: memory storage, it does not pass from the blood into
: brain cells. We are faced with an apparent paradox: how
: can a hormone that does not act directly on the brain
: have such a large effect on brain function?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
这是作者的疑问
: Recently, we tested the possibility that one of the
: hormone’s actions outside the brain might be responsible.
^^^^^^^
这是作者对他的疑问的假设
: Since one consequence of adrenaline release in an animal
: is an increase in blood glucose levels, we examined the
: effects of glucose on memory in rats. We found that glucose
: injected immediately after training enhances memory tested
: the next day. Additional evidence was provided by negative
^^^^^^^^^
这一句就是他想要证实的: glucose会造成enhance memory
所以他想要反向证明: 这个enhance memory不是由adrenaline直接造成
而是由glucose
那要怎麽证明?
1.单纯打glucose进去也会有类似的效果
2.就算有adrenaline,若不造成glucose上昇就没有memory enhancement
3.所以用adrenergic blocker --> glucose 不会上昇 --> memory不会enhance
4.用adrenergic blocker --> glucose不上昇 -->memory不会enhance
-->强制注射glucose --> memory enhance
: findings: drugs called adrenergic antagonists, which block
: peripheral adrenaline receptors, disrupted adrenaline’s
: ability to regulate memory but did not affect memory
: enhancements produced by glucose that was not stimulated
: by adrenaline. These results are as they should be if
: adrenaline affects memory modulation by increasing blood
: glucose levels.
单纯以解题来看
: 4. The author refers to the results of the experiment using
: adrenergic antagonists as “negative findings” (line 13)
: most likely because the adrenergic antagonists
: (A) failed to disrupt adrenaline’s effect on memory
错 因为"drugs called adrenergic antagonists, ......disrupted adrenaline's
ability to regulate memory.."
: (B) did not affect glucose’s ability to enhance memory
对 "but did not affect memory enhancements produced by glucose.."
: (C) did not block adrenaline’s ability to increase blood glucose levels
错 都说了是 adrenergic "blocker"
但也可以说这选项是 out of scope (超出内容范围)
: (D) only partially affected adrenaline’s ability to enhance memory
错 他没有说partial
: (E) disrupted both adrenaline’s and glucose’s effect on memory
错 就说没有影响非adrenaline-induced glucose 的memory effect
: 答案是:B
: 首先,我对文章的理解是这样的
: 待解释的现象:hormone adrenaline是怎麽不和大脑直接作用而影响记忆?
: 读到这,我就知道文章接下来要说明问号的内容 : hormone adrenaline -> ? -> 记忆
: 果然,是因为adrenaline产生葡萄糖 而葡萄糖影响记忆
: 证据1: 把葡萄糖注入老鼠 记忆up
: 反向证据2 : 某drug会block adrenaline的接收器 所以无法影响记忆
这里说的不对 他只说不会影响 adrenaline-induced的glucose对记忆的影响
再者 内文说 "disrupted adrenaline's ability to regulate memory"
: 而且不影响不是由adrenaline产生的葡萄糖
同上,adrenaline还是影响记忆啊
: 我的问题是 我看不懂证据2的意义在哪?为何他是反向证据
你2的解读有点小不正确
: 而且证据1已经说明葡萄糖响记忆
: 那麽证据2的"不是由adrenaline产生的葡萄糖”本来就不会被影响阿
: 为什麽”不是由adrenaline产生的葡萄糖不被影响” 这句话却成为反向证据的关键
: 我不知道我是不理解文章意思还是没有搞懂反向证据的意思
: 麻烦高手解答
: 谢谢
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1F:推 SuperMaster : 您讲解的很仔细!!感激不尽~ 01/28 22:06
no problem
我再解释清楚一点
positive finding指的是 glucose造成memory enhancement (无论是adrenaline造成与否)
negative finding指的是能够反向证明
也就是说用adr blocker-->会造成glucose没有上升 -->所以没有memory enhancement
为了证明记忆是glucose造成的 所以更确实地去证实
就算在有adrenaline的情况下 去注射glucose --> memory enhance
+ 是指 = 直接给glucose --> memory enhance
- 是指 = 阻断glucose上升的原因 (意思就是给adr blocker) --> no memory enhance
然後为了再更科学的证明犯人就是glucose
就在有adr blocker的强况下 再把glucose注射进去 --> memory enhance
所以若你真的要去细分哪个是"negative finding"
那我会说应该就是指给adrenaline blocker这件事 --> no memory enhancement
※ 编辑: yujungc (223.139.72.17), 01/28/2016 23:27:24
2F:推 SuperMaster : 没错 这跟我最後理解是一样的 01/29 12:13
3F:→ SuperMaster : 我当初在做这题时 01/29 12:14
4F:→ SuperMaster : 想说negative findings是blocker 01/29 12:14
5F:→ SuperMaster : 所以想圈一个有关block的答案 却找不到 01/29 12:15
6F:→ SuperMaster : 我想题目问的是 01/29 12:15
7F:→ SuperMaster : ”为何blocker实验可以成为一个neg findings” 01/29 12:15
8F:→ SuperMaster : 所以一定要圈一个正态度的字眼 就是这个实验的关键 01/29 12:16
9F:→ SuperMaster : 那就是”葡萄糖真的可以影响记忆力" 01/29 12:16
10F:→ SuperMaster : 我这样理解应该没错吧! 01/29 12:16