https://reurl.cc/gRGdp4 "There’s not a guy that I think is better" - Warriors GM Mike Dunleavy on Draymond's DPOY chances, 'Playoff Jimmy' and more (Exclusive) By Mark Medina Modified Apr 19, 2025 12:30 GMT Despite the Golden State Warriors mostly validating why he acquired Jimmy Butler before the trade deadline, Warriors general manager Mike Dunleavy declined to predict the team’s NBA title fortunes. 尽管金州勇士队几乎证明了在交易截止日前引进 Jimmy Butler 的决定是正确的，勇士队 总经理 Mike Dunleavy 仍拒绝预测球队的夺冠前景。 Dunleavy sounded more definitive about a different development for when the No . 7 Warriors (48-34) face the No. 2 Houston Rockets (52-30) in a first-round playoff matchup beginning on Sunday. The topic involved fourth-year forward Jonathan Kuminga and how he handled an up-and-down season that has included a fluid role and even some healthy scratches since the Butler trade. Dunleavy 对另一项发展的态度则明确得多——那就是当西区第七种子金州勇士队（48胜 34败）在周日开始的首轮系列赛中对上第二种子休士顿火箭队（52胜30败）时，四年级前 锋 Jonathan Kuminga 的状态与表现。话题围绕着 Kuminga 如何应对这个起伏不定的赛 季——自从 Butler 加盟後，他的角色变动频繁，甚至曾因战术考量而被战术式弃用（ DNP）。 “I think he’ll definitely have a role in this series and provide a boost for us,” Dunleavy told Sportskeeda. Mike Dunleavy 在接受《Sportskeeda》访问时表示：「我认为他在这轮系列赛中肯定会 有角色，也会为我们带来帮助。」 It remains to been how many minutes Warriors coach Steve Kerr will grant Kuminga after not playing in the team’s Play-in win over the Memphis Grizzlies and sitting in overtime in the Warriors’ regular-season-finale loss to the LA Clippers. 勇士总教练 Steve Kerr 会给 Jonathan Kuminga 多少上场时间仍有待观察——他在球队 对上曼菲斯灰熊的附加赛胜利中未获出赛机会，也在例行赛最後一战对洛杉矶快艇的延长 赛中也坐满板凳。 Still, Kerr talks frequently with Dunleavy both on personnel decisions and rotations since the Warriors promoted Dunleavy from vice president of basketball operations to general manager after Bob Myers stepped down two years ago and later accepted an ESPN analyst role. 尽管如此，自从勇士将 Dunleavy 从篮球营运副总裁晋升为总经理（在 Bob Myers 两年 前辞职并接受 ESPN 分析师职位後），Kerr 与 Dunleavy 仍然经常就球员人选和轮换进 行讨论。 Those talks became frequent this past year. Last summer, the Warriors weighed potential moves for Paul George or Lauri Markkanen last summer before prioritizing roster depth and continuity. They also talked frequently before and after the Warriors acquired Butler from the Miami Heat. 这些讨论在过去一年变得更加频繁。去年夏天，勇士考虑过引进Paul George或Lauri Markkanen，但最终将重心放在阵容深度和保持队伍连续性上。他们在向迈阿密热火队交 易来Jimmy Butler之前和之後也进行了多次讨论。 “He’s got a really good way of challenging me and the job I’m doing and supporting me at the same time,” Kerr said. “That is kind of the perfect dynamic from a boss. That’s what you want. You want to be the best version of yourself. But you don’t want to feel threatened. You want to feel like you’ re in a collaboration. That’s what it feels like with Mike. He’s really sharp, knows the game and knows the league, knows our team and he’s done an incredible job since he's been here drafting, free agency and creating the dynamics that allowed us to go get Jimmy with the work that he did in free agency last year. I think he’s been just brilliant. I love working with him. ” 「他用一个非常好的方式来挑战我和我所做的工作，同时又给予支持。」Kerr说：「这就 是来自上司的完美合作。这正是你想要的。你希望成为最好的自己，但你不想感到受到威 胁，你希望感觉到你是在合作。这就是和Mike共事的感觉。他非常聪明，了解比赛、联盟 和我们的球队，自从他来这里以来，他在选秀、自由市场和创造让我们去年得以通过自由 市场交易到Jimmy的弹性方面做得非常出色。我认为他真的非常出色，我很喜欢和他一起 工作。」 Dunleavy spoke to Sportskeeda about his dynamic with Kerr and what the strong chemistry between Butler and Stephen Curry could look like in the playoffs. Dunleavy also made his case for why Draymond Green should win his second Defensive Player of the Year award this season and impressions of Kuminga’s season. Dunleavy 在接受 Sportskeeda 访问时谈到了他与 Kerr 的合作关系，以及 Butler 和 Stephen Curry 的强大化学反应在季後赛中可能会是什麽样子。Dunleavy 还说明了他认 为 Draymond Green 应该赢得生涯第二次年度最佳防守球员奖的理由，以及对 Kuminga 本赛季表现的看法。 Dunleavy: “I think we feel good about our team. But I think anytime you head into the playoffs, you want to have confidence. I don’t know about　comfort. We’re playing a really formidable opponent against Houston, and the second best team in the West. They’ve had a great year. So I don’t know if there is anything comfortable about that. But we’re confident. We like our group. We feel like if we play well, we have a chance to win.” Editor’s note: The following one-on-one conversation has been edited and posted. Dunleavy：「我觉得我们对球队的情况感到满意，但我认为每当进入季後赛时，你希望自 己拥有信心。我不确定是否是舒适。我们将面对一支非常强大的对手——休士顿，他们是 西区第二强的队伍。他们本赛季表现非常出色。所以我不认为这样的对决有任何舒适可言 ，但我们有信心。我们喜欢我们的阵容，觉得如果我们打得好，我们有机会赢。」 编者注：以下的一对一对话，经过编辑後发布。 Warriors’ GM Mike Dunleavy Exclusive 勇士总经理Mike Dunleavy专访 After the Butler trade, Draymond said that you will win a championship. What do you think of that? Dunleavy: “I love the confidence and belief. That’s what we’re looking for. If making a trade helps with that, especially from a guy like Draymond, it matters. But we got to go out and get the job done. It’s a long journey starting this weekend with Game 1.” 在Butler交易後，Draymond说你们将会赢得总冠军。你怎麽看待这句话？ Dunleavy：「我喜欢这样的信心和信念，这正是我们所追求的。如果进行交易能帮助达到 这一点，尤其是来自像Draymond这样的球员，那就很重要。但最终我们还是需要走出去， 完成这项工作。这是一段漫长的旅程，从本周末的第一场比赛开始。」 The reason for Draymond’s confidence is probably obvious. You all have Steph, Jimmy, Draymond and championship experience. But what will be the key in making sure that’s enough against Houston and potentially beyond? Dunleavy: “I think it ends up being the small things. We have three highly experienced players that have been in the postseason and have thrived in the postseason. So I think believing that we can do it is there. It’s just executing. It’s taking care of the ball. It’s following the game plan defensively. It’s all of those little things that allow you to win basketball games in the postseason. If we do that, we’ll have a chance.” Draymond的信心其来有自，你们拥有Stephen、Jimmy、Draymond和丰富的冠军经验。但要 确保足够应对休士顿以及接下来的挑战，关键是什麽？ Dunleavy：「我认为最终是小细节。我们有三位拥有丰富季後赛经验并且在季後赛中表现 出色的球员，所以我们已经拥有了相信自己能做到的信心。关键在於执行。就是保护球权 、坚持防守战术、以及所有这些能够让你在季後赛中赢得比赛的小细节。如果我们做到这 些，我们就有机会。」 The Jimmy trade has obviously been incredibly impactful. Looking back on the move, what developments aligned with your expectations and what developments have been pleasant surprises? Dunleavy: “At the time, we recognized that we needed a little boost both on the court and spiritually. Jimmy has brought that, for sure. He has raised the level of our play. But to the credit of the other guys on the team with Steph , Draymond, Brandin [Podziemski], [Moses] Moody, [Quinten] Post, a lot of these guys have stepped up as well. It’s worked. I think considering when the trade was made, we were the 11th seed and we have moved up and are in the playoffs. It has gone well. But there is a little bit of unfinished business here. On the whole, I really thought this move would help our team now and moving forward. We’ve certainly done that. We have to keep it that way.” Jimmy交易案显然带来了极大的影响。回顾这个决定，哪些发展符合你的预期，哪些又是 让你感到惊喜的？ Dunleavy：「当时，我们意识到无论在场上还是精神层面上，我们都需要一些提振。 Jimmy 确实带来了这些。他提升了我们的表现水准。但也要归功於队内其他球员，像是 Steph、Draymond、Brandin [Podziemski]、[Moses] Moody、[Quinten] Post等，这些球 员也有站出来。这一切奏效了。考虑到交易时我们是第11名，但现在已经进入季後赛了。 整体来说，这笔交易进行得相当顺利，但还有一些未完成的目标。总的来说，我真的认为 这笔交易会帮助我们现在及未来的发展，这一点我们确实做到了。我们必须继续保持这样 的状态。」 What did you envision what the Steph/Jimmy dynamic would look like, and how has that played out so far? Dunleavy: “Although being quite different players, they complement each other really well. Jimmy’s understanding and feel for the game has enabled him to fit in pretty quickly and connect with Steph. And Steph’s outside prowess and Jimmy’s inside prowess and the ability to get to the free-throw line, draw contact, get fouled and make plays for others is a really nice combination. Heading into the playoffs, we feel good about having those two guys. They’re elite offensive players. They do it in different ways. But they’re highly effective.” 你原本想像中，Steph 和 Jimmy 的搭档会是怎样的情况？目前的情况与你的预期有符合 吗？ Dunleavy：「虽然他们是完全不同风格的球员，但他们的互补性非常强。Jimmy 对比赛的 理解和感觉让他能够很快融入并与 Steph 连动。而 Steph 的外线能力和 Jimmy 的内线 优势，以及他藉由肢体接触制造犯规站上罚球线和为队友创造机会的能力，这些都是非常 棒的搭配。进入季後赛，我们对这两位球员感到很有信心。他们是顶级的进攻球员，虽然 方式不同，但他们的效率非常高。」 Jimmy’s got the ‘Playoff Jimmy’ nickname for a reason. But given who Houston is and what the Warriors’ makeup is, what do you envision what ‘ Playoff Jimmy’ will look like? Dunleavy: “Well, we’ve all seen it. We certainly got a taste of it with this Play-in game thus far. He’s a guy that when the lights are brighter, he steps up. Houston is going to present a really big challenge. They’re a terrific defensive team. They have a lot of guys that can guard. So it’s not going to be easy. But we believe in the guys we have.” Jimmy 拥有「季後赛 Jimmy」这个绰号是有原因的。但考虑到休士顿的情况以及勇士的阵 容，你预期「季後赛 Jimmy」会是什麽样子？ Dunleavy：「嗯，我们都看过了。我们确实在附加赛中稍微体验过。他是一位当舞台变得 更大时会挺身而出的球员。休士顿将会带来一个非常大的挑战。他们是一支非常强的防守 队伍，有很多球员能够防守。这不会是轻松的比赛，但我们相信我们的球员。」 Knowing that dynamic Steph has with Butler, what do you anticipate Steph Curry ’s postseason will look like compared to other postseasons? Dunleavy（按：原文误植为Curry）: “The beauty of Steph still at this age at 37 , the possibilities are limitless. That’s the fun of it. That’s why everybody watches. He’s capable of anything. That’s why you tune in. I don’ t want to make any predictions or suggestions on what may happen. I want to watch, observe and enjoy.” 考虑到Steph与Butler之间的默契，你预计Curry的季後赛表现会和以往有何不同？ Dunleavy：「Steph在37岁这个年纪，依然拥有无限的可能性，这正是他的魅力所在。这 就是为什麽大家都会关注他。他能够做到任何事情，这也是为什麽人们会聚焦於他。我不 想对接下来会发生什麽做出预测或建议，我只想观察、享受这一切。」 What’s your case for Draymond winning Defensive Player of the Year when considering the rest of the field? Dunleavy: “I think it’s incredible for him at this age to do what he’s able to do and affect our team and our defense so much. When he’s on the court, we’re an elite team. Since the trade deadline, we’ve been the No. 1 defensive team in the league. He’s really picked it up this latter part of the year. From my standpoint, watching the game and playing it and being around it for a long time, there’s not a guy that I think is a better defender than Draymond to have out on the court when you need to get a stop. Whether that’s on the ball, at the rim or any type of action, he's as good as it gets. He’s shown that throughout his career. But he’s still at that level now, which is remarkable.” 你认为在整个竞争者名单中，为什麽Draymond应该赢得年度最佳防守球员？ Dunleavy：「我认为他在这个年纪还能做到这样的事，对我们的球队和防守产生如此大的 影响，真的很不可思议。他在场上的时候，我们就是一支菁英级球队。自从交易截止日之 後，我们是全联盟防守表现最好的球队。他在赛季後段真的将防守强度又提升了一个档次 。就我个人而言，作为一个长期观看、参与比赛，并且待在这个环境中的人，我认为在你 需要一个关键防守时，没有谁比Draymond更适合站在场上。无论是单防、护框，还是各种 防守轮转，他都是顶级的。他整个生涯都证明了这一点，而他现在依然保持在那个水准， 这真的非常了不起。」 What’s your favorite defensive performance of his this season? Dunleavy: “Honestly, it’s plays that he makes. It’s winning plays when it matters on the defensive end. How he can make that block or steal without picking up a foul and it’s against Giannis [Antetokounmpo], LeBron [James] or whoever. He’s doing it against the guys in the biggest moments. It’s really , really impressive. Steph obviously gets a ton of credit and accolades for all that he’s done. Same thing with Draymond on the defensive end in the course of his career. It’s been equally impressive.” 你今年最喜欢他哪一场的防守表现？ Dunleavy：「说实话，让我印象最深的是他那些防守动作。比赛关键时，他总能做出致胜 的防守，不管是封阻还是抄截，而且他能在不犯规的情况下完成这些动作——对手还是像 Giannis [Antetokounmpo]、LeBron [James]这样等级的球员。他是在最大的舞台、面对 最强对手时做出这些动作，真的非常非常令人印象深刻。Steph在进攻端当然拿了很多赞 誉与荣耀，而Draymond在防守端这些年也做了同样等级的事情。我认为他的防守表现一样 令人敬佩。」 Shifting over to Kuminga, how would you evaluate his growth and his next steps? Dunleavy: “I think JK has made nice steps through the course of his career. He’s still young. Obviously, this year has been a little up and down. I think the thing that hurt him the most was getting injured and being out of the rotation, especially when we made this trade as our team evolved. Getting back into the rotation was somewhat of a challenge. But I think what’s ahead of us is exciting both as a team and for him. The playoffs are big. I think he’s going to have an opportunity. So we’ll see how it goes.” 谈到Kuminga，你会怎麽评价他的成长与下一步的方向？ Dunleavy：「我觉得JK在他职业生涯的这段时间内确实有不错的进展。他还很年轻。当然 ，这赛季对他来说有点起伏。我认为对他打击最大的是受伤让他脱离轮换阵容，尤其是在 我们完成这笔交易、整体阵容逐渐成形的情况下。回到轮换对他来说并不容易。但我觉得 ，无论是对球队还是对他个人，接下来的发展都令人兴奋。季後赛是个重要的舞台，我认 为他会有机会，我们拭目以待。」 What impact do you expect him to make against Houston? Dunleavy: “They present some stuff athletically and physically that he can match. He’s got that type of size and athleticism on the defensive end to defend and rebound. And then on the offensive end, he’s able to finish, score and get to the basket. Those are things he can counteract with what they’re doing. So I think he’ll definitely have a role in this series and provide a boost for us.” 你预期他在对休士顿的系列赛中能带来什麽样的影响？ Dunleavy：「他们在运动能力与身体对抗上带来一些挑战，而JK能够应对这些。他在防守 端有那样的体型与运动能力，可以去防守、抢篮板；在进攻端，他也能完成终结、得分、 突破上篮。这些正好可以对应他们的打法。所以我认为他在这轮系列赛中一定会有角色， 也会为我们带来一股力量。」 Obviously, every player wants to play as much as they can. But what have been your impressions on how he’s handled the fluidity with his minutes, whether it’s significant roles or DNPs? Dunleavy: “He’s been good about it. JK has been a pro. I think that’s a part about learning in this league and growing. I commend him for that. He’s handled that really well. He’s been supportive of the team. I think he knows deep down that his opportunity will still come. So he’s staying ready. I think when that opportunity comes, he’ll take advantage of it.” 显然，每个球员都希望上场时间越多越好。那你对他应对这段期间角色变化的观察是什麽 ？无论是扮演重要角色，还是被 DNP？ Dunleavy：「他表现得很不错。JK 展现了职业球员的态度。我认为这正是他在这个联盟 中学习与成长的一部分，我也很欣赏他的表现。他处理得很好，一直都很支持球队。我觉 得他心里也清楚，自己的机会仍然会到来。所以他持续做好准备。我相信当那个机会来临 时，他会好好把握。」 I asked Steve what the collaboration has been like with you through the stages with weighing potential moves last summer and leading into and after the Jimmy Butler trade. He said, ‘he’s got a really good way of challenging me and the job I’m doing and supporting me at the same time.’ How do you try to approach those two different things? Dunleavy: “I think the biggest thing for me, first and foremost, is that Steve and I have a really good relationship. We got a great partnership. We do this together. He’s been in my shoes before as a general manager. So that really helps. He can see things from my side.I think growing up around the game and having my Dad coach, I think I can see some things from a coaching standpoint, whether there are challenges or things that you want to do. So I think we see both sides of our situations well and we’re able to connect and talk through things. We almost always end up aligned on the same page. It makes for a really good partnership. As a first-time general manager and trying to learn this stuff, it’s incredibly helpful and supportive for me to have a coach like Steve Kerr and a guy that has been in these shoes. It’s been really productive and good.” 我问了 Steve，从去年夏天评估潜在交易开始，到 Jimmy Butler 交易前後，这整个过程 里你们的合作关系是什麽样的。他说：「他很会在挑战我和我做的工作，同时又给予支持 。」你是怎麽看待这两件看起来有点冲突的事？ Dunleavy：「我觉得最重要的一点是，我和 Steve 的关系真的很好。我们是很棒的夥伴 ，一起做这些决策。他以前也当过总管，所以他能从我的角度去理解事情，这非常有帮助 。而我从小就在篮球环境中长大，我爸是教练，所以我也能理解一些教练在做决策时会遇 到的挑战或想法。我们能够从彼此的立场出发，进行沟通，几乎每次都能达成共识。我觉 得这让我们之间的合作非常顺利。对我来说，身为一个第一次担任总经理的人，有 Steve Kerr 这样的教练当搭档，又是个曾经坐过这个位子的人，真的让我学到很多，也给了我 很大的支持。我们的合作非常有效率，也非常正向。」 What was the collaboration with him, Steph and Draymond leading into the Butler trade? Dunleavy: “It was a lot of conversations and talk about what things would look like, how it helps our team and how it affects our team and what it does for us. It was open and honest conversations. There is trust on both sides and there’s a common goal. ‘If we want to accomplish this, then this is what we need to do.’ Those are what the conversations are like. It’s fun to bounce things off those guys and get their feedback. They are coming from a different perspective than me. But we all have a common goal. We’re trying to get the same thing. But it’s good to hear those guys out.” 在Butler交易前，与Kerr、Steph和Draymond的合作是怎麽样的？ Dunleavy：「很多次的对话，讨论了事情会是什麽样子，他如何帮助、影响我们的球队， 以及他对我们有什麽作用。这是开诚布公对话，双方之间有信任和共同目标。『如果我们 想达成这个目标，那麽这是我们需要做的事。』这些就是对话的内容。能与这些人讨论并 听取他们的反馈很有趣。他们来自与我不同的角度，但我们都有共同目标。我们在追求相 同的东西，听听他们的看法很好。」 You obviously knew Jimmy well. But hearing their perspective on that, was there anything in particular that made an impression on you and crystalized that you should make the deal? Dunleavy: “I think just asking everybody the question, ‘What do you want out of this season and with things moving forward? That is to get to the postseason and have a chance to compete at the highest level. And this is what we should do.’ That was sort of my recommendation to everybody that we need this kind of change. Once they saw it that way and said, ‘If that’s what we think this can do, then let’s do it.’ I think it became clear and obvious to everyone that it’s the right move.” 你显然很了解Jimmy。但在听完他们的看法，有没有什麽特别的地方让你印象深刻，并让 你更坚定觉得应该完成这笔交易？ Dunleavy：「我想就是问每个人一个问题：『你对这个赛季以及未来有什麽期待？答案就 是打进季後赛，并有机会在最高层级竞争。那麽我们就应该这麽做。』这算是我给大家的 建议，我们需要这样的改变。当他们也这麽看，并说：『如果我们认为这笔交易能达到那 个目标，那就做吧。』我觉得对每个人来说显而易见地，这是正确的决定。」 You alluded that there’s been a lot of contributions on the team. Looking at this upcoming series, what roles outside of Steph, Jimmy and Draymond do you expect them to play? Dunleavy: “The exciting part outside of those guys is if they keep doing what they’re doing, they’re really going to help us win. They’ve gotten into a stretch where we feel like we’ve been playing playoff basketball for a month now just trying to get into the postseason. These guys have had to play the roles they need to support Steph, Jimmy and Draymond and are doing it really well. If these guys just keep doing what they’re going to do, we feel really good about our chances. I think at times we can get a little sideways with trying to do too much and all that. But I think everybody knows their role and what they’re capable of, and how they can help.” 你刚才提到球队中有很多人的贡献。那在接下来的这轮系列赛，除了Steph、Jimmy和 Draymond之外，你预期其他人会扮演什麽样的角色？ Dunleavy：「让人兴奋的是，除了那几位之外，如果其他人能持续做他们现在在做的事， 他们真的能帮助我们赢球。我们已经打出一段时间的高强度比赛，感觉过去一个月就像在 打季後赛，只是为了争取晋级。这些球员必须扮演支援Steph、Jimmy和Draymond的角色， 而且他们做得非常出色。如果他们能继续保持，我们对自己感到非常乐观。我想有时候我 们会有点偏离节奏，试图做太多事情，但我相信现在每个人都知道自己的角色、能力，以 及他们可以如何帮助球队。」 --

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