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标题Fw: [情报] 勇士本来计画同时拿到PG跟Markkanen
时间Thu Oct 24 18:03:44 2024
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作者: dragon803 (AZKiちゃん大好き) 看板: NBA
标题: [情报] 勇士本来计画同时拿到PG跟Markkanen
时间: Tue Oct 22 23:57:00 2024
Inside Mike Dunleavy Jr.’s second season and the Warriors’ chase for the
next big fish
https://reurl.cc/VMbzan
勇士记者Anthony Slater出了一篇文分系勇士总管 Mike Dunleavy Jr这个暑假的操盘
里面有一段有讲勇士这个暑假交易的变动脉络
When Dunleavy laid out the blueprint to Curry and Green, Utah Jazz forward
Lauri Markkanen wasn’t Plan B. He was a subsection of Plan A. The Warriors
wanted both wings — believing George’s opt-out threat would allow them to
protect the required assets to entice Utah Jazz CEO Danny Ainge, and Markkanen
’s reasonable $18 million returning salary could make the financials work.
“The conversation was always about that possibility,” Green said. “You get
both of those guys, you make a huge splash. But the Clippers weren’t really
willing to play ball. Then Danny Ainge was being Danny Ainge.”
当Dunleavy对Curry和Green展现他的建队蓝图时,Lauri Markkanen并不是所谓的计画B,
而是计画A的一部分。勇士本来想要同时得到两名前锋,他们认为George可能跳出合约的
风险可以让他们保留需要的资产来与Danny Ainge谈交易,并且Lauri Markkanen年薪仅
1800万的合约也能让交易运作。
(就是最後会是PG+Markkanen都拿到手)
「对话总是围绕这种可能性进行」,Green说。「如果得到这两人,就能造成巨大的影响
,但快艇并没有意愿合作,而Ainge则是一如往常的很Ainge。」
If George had been in tow, perhaps the Warriors would’ve unloaded everything
left in the cupboard for Markkanen — all the first-rounders,
second-rounders, swaps and young players the Jazz requested. Contention would
’ve been a reasonable expectation.
But without George, it’s clear the Warriors didn’t like the price
considering the return on investment. That’s what Dunleavy relayed to Kerr
in that pre-free-agency meeting at Casa Del Mar.
如果勇士拿到George,或许勇士会All in他们的首轮、次轮和爵士队要求的年轻球员,毕
竟在这种情况下拚冠是合理的做法。但没有George的情况下,勇士队并不喜欢这笔交易的
投资报酬率,这也是Dunleavy在自由市场会面时告诉Kerr的。
“Mike is very sensible,” Kerr said. “He just said to me, ‘It doesn’t
make sense to sell your entire future for a team that you think can be pretty
good, but isn’t awesome, right?’ Especially at this stage with the ages of
our stars.”
「Mike非常理智」,Kerr说。「他告诉我,为了一个还不错,但不够好的球队卖掉你球队
的整个未来并不合理,尤其是在你的核心球员年纪已经偏大的情况下。」
Dunleavy put it this way at his pre-camp news conference: “There’s no point
in going all in to be slightly above average.”
Dunleavy也在训练营前的新闻发布会上表达了相同的观点
「为了稍微变好而梭哈,这完全没有意义。」
Three weeks later, in the same room that Dunleavy delivered that quote,
controlling owner Lacob is reminded of the framing.
过了三周後,勇士队老板Lacob也提到他有听到这样的说法。
“I saw where he said that,” Lacob said.
「我看到了他说的那些话」,Lacob说。
Lacob is perpetually outward about his ambition and optimism, so it isn’t
the easiest thing to concede that, even with a large summer swing, this
Warriors team still wouldn’t have been good enough.
“Well, here’s the issue,” Lacob said. “You’ve heard me say and you’ve
heard him say: Making trades is really hard in this league. And often you
have to overpay. We know that. But when you say all in, I mean in one of the
situations that was a trade that you’re alluding to, ALL IN should have been
in capital letters.”
All the firsts, seconds, swaps, Brandin Podziemski, Jonathan Kuminga and
Moses Moody.
Lacob一向以乐观的态度表达他对球队的雄心壮志,因此要承认经过一个夏天的变动後勇
士并不够好对他来说并不容易。
「问题在这里」,Lacob说。「你有听过我说过,也听过其他人说过,达成交易在这个联
盟并不容易,并且你常常会被迫付出过高的代价。但当你说要梭哈时,在你提到的其中一
个交易里,‘梭哈’这个词应该用大写来表达。」
“So that term is important,” Lacob said. “It’s not just a term. That was
something we tried hard to do. If you’re going to get the guy you want, you
can do that. We’ve done it before. We did it with (Kevin Durant). We had to
gut half the roster if you recall. So if it’s the right move, we’re willing
to go quote ‘capital A capital L capital L’ all in. But you can only do
that once, so you’d better be right.”
「因为这个词非常重要,这不仅仅是一个词,而是代表我们需要全力以赴去争取的。如果
你想要得到某个你想要的球员,你可以这样做(梭哈)。我们之前为了KD做过,我们拆了
一半的球员。所以如果那是对的决定,我们愿意全力拚一次,但你只能拚一次,所以你最
好做对。」
中间有一段讲Dunleavy的领导特质,Kerr说他能处理艰难的决定之类的
但有一段是Curry对没有梭哈这件事情也蛮坦然的
Perhaps the most difficult — or at least most delicate — conversations of
Dunleavy’s summer came with Curry. The Warriors indirectly walked Thompson
out the door, weren’t able to get Curry the second established scorer he
craved and pivoted into a patient approach months before Curry’s 37th
birthday, all while convincing him to add an extra year onto his contract.
对Dunleavy来说,这个夏天最困难的就是与Curry的对话。Thompson的离开,无法为Curry
找到他希望的第二得分点,并在Curry的37岁生日前达成了他的续约,并且希望Curry能够
有耐心。
“He’s just honest,” Curry said of Dunleavy. “The same way Bob was. I
always say I just want to see effort and an aggressive nature.”
「他很诚实」,Curry谈到Dunleavy时说。「这也是过去Bob的作风,我总是说我只是想看
到努力和积极的态度。」
Dunleavy plotted the George recruitment with Curry. He kept him up to date on
any material Markkanen development. They discussed other names that both
agreed didn’t move the needle. Curry and Green have always been De’Anthony
Melton fans. Melton said the Warriors’ front office was in his agent’s
office within 20 minutes of free agency starting.
Dunleavy与Curry一起策划了招募George的计划,并随时向他更新Markkanen交易的进展。
他们讨论了其他几个名字,但双方都同意这些名字无法改变现状。Curry和Green一直以来
都是De’Anthony Melton的粉丝。Melton说,当自由市场开始20分钟後,勇士就联系了他
的经纪人。
Don’t mistake Curry’s understanding with a lack of urgency. He’s still in
a sturdy alliance with the organization because he trusts Dunleavy similar to
how he trusted Myers and he’s been led to believe that they will strike —
using future picks and other necessary sacrifices — to maximize the next
couple of seasons if the right trade materializes.
不要误以为Curry对球队的理解代表他缺乏紧迫感。他与球队的关系仍然很稳固,因为他
信任Dunleavy,就如同他当初信任Myers一样。而且Curry被告知,如果合适的交易出现,
勇士愿意砸选秀权和其他资产来最大化接下来的几个赛季。
“Yeah, but nobody knows what that means until there’s an opportunity or you
assess what this team is,” Curry said.
「是的,但直到出现合适的机会或你可以正确评估球队的情况时,没人知道那究竟代表什
麽意思」,Curry说。
In the last couple of months, the Warriors and Minnesota Timberwolves had a
conversation about Karl Anthony-Towns, league sources said, but it didn’t go
anywhere. The Timberwolves targeted a specific package from the New York
Knicks that the Warriors didn’t possess. There’s no other obvious big name
immediately available as the regular season arrives.
在过去的几个月,勇士有与灰狼商讨过KAT的交易,但没进展。灰狼针对尼克提出了明
确的交易包裹,但勇士无法匹配。随着赛季即将开始,目前暂时没有其他明星球员可供交
易。
“I just think the biggest thing for me is, as a player, when you’re dealing
with a GM, there are material moments throughout the year that you want to
have an alignment,” Curry said. “Come New Year, I may have a check-in. Come
trade deadline, I might have a check-in. Come offseason, I have a check-in.
The rest of the time it’s his job to go maintain relationships and keep an
eye on the league. It’s my job to go hoop.”
「我认为对我来说,最重要的是,作为一名球员,当你与GM讨论时,会有几个关键时
刻你希望双方能够达成共识。当新年到来,我可能会与他交流了解情况;交易截止日前,
我可能会再次确认情况;到了休赛季,我会再次与他讨论球队的状况。其余的时间,就是
他的工作去维持球员的关系和关注联盟的动态,而我的工作就是上场打球。」
总结就是,勇士本来的目标是
PG可以以保留资产的情况下从快艇那边拿到,然後All in Lauri=组成一个争冠队伍
但前者失败後,总管认为现在梭哈没意义,缩了也不能争冠
Curry也暂时可以理解并且愿意等待机会,然後他一年会跳下来跟总管谈论球队的情况
3次
新年 交易大限 休赛季,剩下的时间要怎麽维持球员的关系跟联盟情况的变动如何是总
管的工作
然後这访问最奇怪的就是交易没达成是Green跑出来说的XD
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1F:推 JL46: 感谢waderu大帮转本文至勇士板,供板友拜读~ :) 10/24 18:17
2F:推 tapiola: 如果一开始就是这样的打算,那压着跟KT的谈约有作用吗? 10/24 19:05
3F:推 onionandy: 有 一旦KT确定金额导致超出第二层Apron就会不能多换一 10/24 19:48
4F:→ onionandy: 交易可能性直接归0 10/24 19:48
5F:推 idk33: 在要补强+留KT的情况下 KT签约顺序一定得到最後 10/24 21:36
6F:推 stephen0522: K汤就自尊心很高 认为球队要把他摆第一顺位 10/25 10:04
7F:→ wsd94051: KT走了对彼此都好,不会在别队耍大牌,勇士气氛也不会 10/26 14:22