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http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/03/02/2010030200879.html Figure Skating Body to Reexamine Scoring System Kim Yu-na's record-shattering score of 228.56 points in the Vancouver Winter Olympics has prompted calls for a change in the way figure skating is judged. Many believe that Kim was able to rise to the top of the podium with the "unimaginable" score because the current scoring system, which the International Skating Union came up with in 2004 after the vote-trading scandal of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics, is also problematic. Now there are calls for a new judging procedure to promote the development of technical aspects. 因为有人认为是"2002丑闻後的新评分系统"让kim得到不可思议的高分,所以有些 要求调整技术分值的声浪出现。 In its general assembly scheduled for June, the ISU might adopt a new system to provide cushion for skaters who courageously go for technically difficult jumps. Under the current rules, when a triple Axel jump falls short of full rotation it is downgraded to a double Axel, and the base value for an attempted but under-rotated triple Axel falls from 8.20 to 3.50 points. Such high penalties can deter skaters from attempting challenging jumps. The new system is aimed at making penalties less severe. 一般来说ISU会在6月份调整新的计分体系来鼓励选手挑战较难的技术动作。 现行规则对於不足圈的3A惩罚很大,导致不少选手对此挑战感到却步,因此, 新系统倾向减少类似的情形的分数惩罚。 In Vancouver, many skaters avoided attempting some of the most difficult jumps. Men's singles champion Evan Lysacek of the U.S. decided to take quadruple jumps out of his program and instead concentrate on nailing triple jumps in order to accumulate grade of execution (GOE) points. Men's silver medalist and the 2006 Olympic champion Yvgeny Plushenko of Russia was unhappy about how the most difficult jumps were not given due credit. 本次冬奥有不少选手避免常尝试困难的跳跃,金牌得主,美国的莱萨切克用精巧的3周跳 取代四周,俄国的普鲁申科对於"最难的跳跃没有得到应有分值"感到不快。 But ladies' silver medalist Mao Asada of Japan has already declared her bid to win the gold in the 2014 Olympics in Sochi with a plan to include a quadruple in her arsenal. 但是女单银牌浅田真央已经宣布计画要以四周跳作为赢得2014索契冬奥金牌的武器。 Kim Yu-na's coach Brian Orser smiles before Kim's performances in the women's figure skating competition at the Vancouver Winter Olympics, wearing a patterned brown or plain blue tie to match her outfit. Amid this discussion, expectations are rising that Kim should include more demanding technical elements in her performances. Her coach Brian Orser said on Monday, "I'd love her to learn the triple Axel, that would be pretty sweet." The move is the most important next step and Kim could learn it pretty easily, he added. 在这样的讨论氛围下,金妍儿被期待在她的节目中安排更高难度的技术组成,她的教练 Oser表示,希望她能学习3A,这对她的下一步来说是最重要的,而且她能轻易地学会。 Orser hopes his student will remain in competition until the Sochi Olympics, although her immediate goal is to defend her title in the World Championship in Turin, Italy from March 27 to 29. He believes Kim should have no problem staying in good physical condition until 2014, when she'll be just 24 years old. Now she needs to defend her world title, and then she will take a break before preparing for next season, Orser said. "I'm not sure what's in for Yu-na after that. Everything is up to her." -------------------------------------- 大致瞎翻了一下 XD 总之...女单的比赛已经进化到4周跳和3A的对决了 囧囧囧 不管是Mao还是 Kim,还是先好好保重身体健康吧,千万不要成为Lipinski第二.... -- "If you get up in the morning and nothing bothers you, you're dead." - Lyosha on sports life --



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◆ From: 118.166.192.180 ※ 编辑: Leshalover 来自: 118.166.192.180 (03/04 16:44)
1F:推 meina:Lipinski怎麽了吗?? 03/04 16:54
2F:→ Leshalover:1998冬奥结束後就换了人工髋关节,那时她才16岁 03/04 17:00
3F:推 hikitsu:我不觉得YUNA可以轻松学成3A。否则她一定会把3A用在比赛上 03/04 17:24
4F:→ hikitsu:3A应该有什麽很难的理由,使得现在只有Mao能办到吧。 03/04 17:24
5F:推 wxyz1234533:3A真的轻松的话~就不会连很多男单也做不出来了 03/04 18:10
6F:推 tina1007:我看完这个报导只有一肚子火耶......真的!! 03/04 20:22
7F:推 hikitsu:为什麽生气O.O?? 03/04 20:36
8F:→ wxyz1234533:因为ISU是想要选手跳愈难愈好~因为这样就会愈高分 03/04 20:42
9F:→ wxyz1234533:就算会摔还是跳~因为扣分减少了(如果真的像文中所改) 03/04 20:43
10F:→ wxyz1234533:这样只会让jumper节目和受伤的选手愈来愈多吧 03/04 20:44
11F:推 hikitsu:那不就变成怎样改都会被骂吗@@? 03/04 21:00
12F:推 CrystalSnow6:确切来说,日本冰协确实已经提出这个建议了... 03/04 21:22
13F:→ CrystalSnow6:能否通过还是另一回事... 03/04 21:22
14F:→ CrystalSnow6:我个人可不希望看到不足圈的高难度跳跃到处出现,甚 03/04 21:23
15F:→ CrystalSnow6:至获得加分...却是以选手的健康或是技术全面性做为代 03/04 21:23
16F:→ CrystalSnow6:价=_=...然後学会跳跃和比赛中成功做出来是两回事 03/04 21:23
17F:→ CrystalSnow6:YUNA在练习中的3loop非常漂亮,比赛中却很少或根本 03/04 21:24
18F:→ CrystalSnow6:不安排...我也看过她在练习中成功跳出3axel的影片 03/04 21:24
19F:→ CrystalSnow6:不过她就是因为练这个动作及四周跳两度重伤到差点不 03/04 21:25
20F:→ CrystalSnow6:能参加比赛...Mao的身体素质无疑更加强健优异 03/04 21:25
21F:→ CrystalSnow6:可是在真的上四周之前我更希望她把3lutz、3salchow 03/04 21:25
22F:→ CrystalSnow6:及3-3找回来...不然难道在没有全面型跳跃种类下就直 03/04 21:26
23F:→ CrystalSnow6:奔4loop而去吗? 03/04 21:26
24F:→ hugo555232:mao不是有提前转身的坏习惯....直接上4loop...? 03/04 21:39
25F:→ hugo555232:我昏头了.....当我没讲过=0= 03/04 21:43
26F:推 CrystalSnow6:因为Mao比赛中没有3salchow...toe jump技术又不稳定 03/04 21:50
27F:→ CrystalSnow6:而不管单跳连跳都超爱用loop 03/04 21:51
28F:→ CrystalSnow6:所以我才推测说她要上四就是4loop... 03/04 21:51
29F:→ CrystalSnow6:以前不是也有传闻说Mao在练习4loop吗? 03/04 21:51
30F:推 trumanliu:以前Timothy Goebel跳了三个quad还是没有金牌 也没听人 03/05 00:08
31F:→ trumanliu:家嚷嚷打分不公... 03/05 00:08
32F:推 deepwild:Goebel也把自己给操坏了 可怜的小孩 03/05 00:35
33F:推 meina:好久没听到Timothy Goebel~他现在在做甚麽呀? 03/05 00:44
34F:推 deepwild:根据WIKI资料 他拿到证照在纽约滑冰学校当技术专家 03/05 01:03
35F:→ cheerytree:C大靠传言推测的成分也未免太多= =MAO已澄清不会跳四周 03/05 07:40
36F:→ cheerytree:很多选手在练习中都能做到比赛不常做的跳跃,包括浅田 03/05 07:45
37F:推 audrey36:我觉得问题不在技术分怎麽扣呐…而是在裁判还是可以操控 03/05 08:00
38F:→ audrey36:PCS的分数啊,XD~ 03/05 08:00
39F:推 audrey36:然後跳跃,我想大家还是先把所有的3圈练好再说吧,我可不 03/05 08:04
40F:→ audrey36:想看到二二六六的节目… 03/05 08:06
41F:推 hikitsu:Mao也没有说不跳四周啊@@,她现在处於不排斥的状态。 03/05 18:30
42F:→ hikitsu:为了认识四圈跳,她上了前奥运金牌的新体操讲习呢。 03/05 18:31
43F:推 hikitsu:Mao是很擅长掉Loop没错,曾经06年想把4L放进节目, 03/05 18:34
44F:→ hikitsu:不过最後是未果。实际在练习中有跳出来的, 03/05 18:34
45F:→ hikitsu:竟然是她超级弱的4Salcow...@@ 03/05 18:34
46F:→ hikitsu:现在她希望2013-2014前能学会四圈跳,赶上奥运; 03/05 18:35
47F:→ hikitsu:不过2010年的现在,偶尔会进行4Loop的练习,成功率却很低 03/05 18:36
48F:→ hikitsu:希望Mao能够不要太在意外界的压力,照自己的脚步慢慢来呀 03/05 18:37
49F:→ immoi:该不会跳不出3salcow只能做4salcow吧 XD 这也太酷.... 03/05 18:54
50F:推 hikitsu:那就太炫了XD。Salcow是安藤的最拿手项目啊... 03/05 18:59
51F:→ hikitsu:最拿手的4S在比赛上一直跳不出来,却被最弱的Mao跳出来, 03/05 19:00
52F:→ hikitsu:真有这麽一天的话就太囧了.... 03/05 19:00
53F:推 CrystalSnow6:据我所看到的新闻,Mao并没说不会跳四周,只是说四周 03/05 20:11
54F:→ CrystalSnow6:,只是说四周并非她现在的急迫目标而已;而从前她确 03/05 20:12
55F:→ CrystalSnow6:实练过也想过要把4loop放进节目里,所以我才这麽推 03/05 20:12
56F:→ CrystalSnow6:测的;而且日本冰协也确实把放宽四周及3A的评判建议 03/05 20:13
57F:→ CrystalSnow6:议提出来了(why?)难道连讨论这种可能性也不行吗?=_= 03/05 20:14
58F:→ Leshalover:奥运後总是有很多传闻满天飞,还是得等世锦赛後再说吧 03/06 03:57







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