※ 引述《manu5566 (水中生物)》之铭言： : 我其实不太确定只看20分钟算不算得上心得，所以分类用闲聊 : 因为看到板上大家都在骂这部，甚至拿到了烂番茄史上最低分，搞得很有兴趣，想看到底多 : 烂 : 我错了，我只撑了十分钟，就关掉了.... : 光开头就很诡异 : 举几个电影常用开头好了 : 悬疑片最常用的，镜头是从屍体开始，然後带到封锁线，再到警察之间的闲聊，这丢给观众 : 一个悬念，有人死了，他是怎麽死的，是谁杀了他 : 神鬼传奇2：开场是战争场面，描述巨石强森征战各地却遇上惨败，这时候只好向死神阿努 : 比斯求助用自己的灵魂换取力量，阿努比斯给了他一支战无不胜的死神军团，让他攻克了城 : 池，你会知道这部主轴会是环绕巨石强森的死神军团 : 木马屠城记，开场直接上字幕，让大家有个基本的历史背景，再从布莱德彼特的视角开始， : 国王要求他比武 : 全面启动开场是入侵别人的梦，等等诸如此类 : 这部开场是一个战争场面，这个战争场面的前30秒是上下颠倒的，我一度以为我手机拿反， : 害我转过去，结果30秒後影片转正，害我又转回来（超级反人类） : 而丹德里恩卷入这场战争场面，但有一个陌生人用时间暂停出手相救，丹德里恩问你为什麽 : 要救我（这边对话很冗长，很多谜语人的台词及桥段），陌生人告诉他，因为你不但有个好 : 心肠，并且会对精灵伸出援手，所以我想要告诉你一个发生在一千年以前的故事，并且帮我 : 传颂给精灵，鼓舞他们给他们希望，一个七勇士的故事.....然後时间线就穿越到200年前的 : 一个女黑人视角 : 我打了以上一大串，有没有发现，战争不重要，丹德里恩不重要，陌生人也不重要，故事主 : 轴明明就是200年前的七勇士，前面到底在干嘛？？？ : 完全没有重点 : 水时数吗？ : 前面就故事就很破碎了，接下来的桥段是介绍七个勇士，每个人的故事背景..... : 我就懒得吐槽与其用时间暂停，救一个吟游诗人给他讲故事，让他去用唱歌鼓舞精灵，给精 : 灵希望........那老姊你的时间暂停更容易鼓舞吧 : 很可怕，我看了十分钟都觉得会吐出血来，如果有「勇士」乐於挑战自我，想看自己能撑多 : 久的，可以打开这部「七勇士」的故事，代价是自己的时间 : 如果看到一半，身体半边不能动，要赶快送医，那是中风前兆 : 看起来根本不像是专科写的，我甚至觉得板上随便抓一个开头都可以写的比他们好 : -- :

※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc), 来自: 223.137.117.1 (台湾) : ※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/EAseries/M.1672543523.A.903.html : ※ 编辑: manu5566 (223.137.117.1 台湾), 01/01/2023 11:31:33 : ※ 编辑: manu5566 (223.137.117.1 台湾), 01/01/2023 11:35:31 : 推 yoshilin: 可能加点露点镜头会好很多 01/01 11:48 : 推 tools: 我有看到女主角出场才关 01/01 11:56 : 推 wild0522: 看到7位政治正确的角色，秒关（虽然不知道原着怎麽写， 01/01 12:48 : → wild0522: 但以NF尿性，後面肯定不妙 01/01 12:48 : 推 ych1022: 最後一集还以为女主角要开演唱会了 01/01 13:07 : 嘘 kerwinboy: 也是没那麽扯 只看10分钟就可以发一篇爆嘴也是蛮跟风 01/01 13:31 : → kerwinboy: 的 01/01 13:31 : 推 windfeather: 陌生人是关键伏笔，丹德里恩是串连千年的核心 01/01 13:36 : → windfeather: 时间暂停以及画面倒转在最後都有惊人的爆点 01/01 13:36 : → windfeather: ……以上的推文，并没有发生。 01/01 13:37 : → windfeather: 好啦，说真的开头怪归怪，没看完也很难说是否有用意 01/01 13:37 : → windfeather: 或是单纯的烂掉而已 01/01 13:38 : 嘘 a09728347966: 10分钟是写什麽心得啦 01/01 14:26 关於这个烂到尾的开头， https://collider.com/the-witcher-blood-origin-lauren-hissrich-declan-de-barra-interview/ 'The Witcher: Blood Origin': Showrunners on Creating the First Witcher, That End Credits Scene, and More Spoilers BY AREZOU AMIN PUBLISHED 2 DAYS AGO Lauren Schmidt Hissrich and Declan de Barra also talk about bringing Jaskier back, and designing the Conjunction of the Spheres. https://0rz.tw/idizS 那个主创跟主编还在访问中，相互吹捧， 说这是一个多麽棒的点子。 COLLIDER: I want to jump in right at the beginning of episode one and ask, how did you decide that it was going to be Minnie Driver coming in and narrating everything and how, ultimately, the beginning of Blood Origin was going to happen? DECLAN DE BARRA: It was an organic process. We had the basic pilot and then we were constantly shaping it as we were going on. "What can we do to make this better? What can we use to make this stronger?" And you're constantly rewriting. Then Lauren had the great suggestion of, what if we used Jaskier's device to tie it back? And it just seems so clear and obvious now, but at the time in the fog of war, you go, oh wow. Yeah, of course. And then as we were framing that, writing a story, how would he come in and where would he sit in this world? We had actually shot a different version of it and then we came up with this brilliant idea. We re-shot it because we wanted to bring in this character that Minnie plays of a Seanchaí, a shape shifting storyteller that sort of drift between worlds and times. Collecting stories like grain, putting them in a seed bank for when the Worlds need them to replant them and let these stories flourish again for when people need them to rally around. It was just such a lovely, evocative image that we had to go with that. We actually made that part of a little re-shoot we did. And compared to the original version we had, which just Joey by himself and then it just began to sing like this idea, but it came from Lauren's noggin. So if you anything else there, Lauren, to add? LAUREN SCHMIDT HISSRICH: No, you covered my noggin quite well. No, I mean, Declan's right, anytime that you get the opportunity to watch cuts coming in and go oh my God, there's an opportunity for us to do this in a slightly different way, to connect things slightly better and Declan can talk about getting Minnie Driver on, because obviously, that's dream casting for us. If you think about who is going to sound like this mysterious magical elfin, whose voice is going to pop up every now and then and just sort of remind us what the macro arc is, that's an amazing get for us. DE BARRA: Yeah, it just sort of fitted so well in. When I was thinking about this idea with Seanchaí story collection, it was that moment where all the sort of story about music and story and words being more powerful than any army, sort of all less than you then to have it sort of personified in this sort of creature that’s raison d’être is to collect stories because they are so powerful. It was great. And the name Seanchaí actually comes from... It was a position in Ireland where you were a storyteller, and you went between the halls of kings, and you went to chieftains and people, and you were the most powerful people in the land and kings were fucking terrified of them. And queens. Because one bad story would destroy you as a king. And they were far more worried about that than any army. And then bringing that back to life in this world, it just all clicked. It was one of those lovely synchronous moments of story. == 他们两个非常得意这段操作耶。 虽然我完全不懂画面巅倒过来是有意义？ 虽然我不懂为什麽这个精灵这麽强能时间暂停， 为什麽她自己不去救精灵？不去告诉精灵这些故事？ 要知道Jaskier唱歌也是唱给人类听啊。 --

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