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※ 引述《sanae0307 (防空栖姬人柱力)》之铭言: : 果然不意外的,又产生现实台湾政治论战了,不能明讲就改偷酸的 : 现在的政治过敏真的越来越严重 : 所谓私德,就是不干大众事务的部份 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 真的啊? 首先一项对澳洲人的调查显示,澳洲人不认同上面的观点。 Most Australians expect politicians to lie, but we also think they should resign if they do, Australia Talks survey reveals By Casey Briggs Posted Wed 16 Jun 2021 at 3:01amWednesday 16 Jun 2021 at 3:01am, updated Wed 16 Jun 2021 at 4:44am https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-16/australia-talks-when-should-politicians-resign/100217170 大部分澳洲人表示,我们预期政客会说谎,可一旦他们被抓到说谎,请辞职。 下面来点关於美国政客的性丑闻。 List of federal political sex scandals in the United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States Many sex scandals in American history have involved incumbent United States federal elected politicians, as well as persons appointed with the consent of the United States Senate.[1][2][3] Sometimes, the officials have denied the accusations, have apologized, or have lost their office in consequence of the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ scandal (e.g. by resigning, being defeated, or deciding not to run again). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 有些卷入性丑闻案的美国政客失去其职位(例如辞职、被击败、自愿退出) 所以美国人真的不在乎政客的私德.....吗? 以下用关键字搜寻列出一些因性丑闻辞职的。 详细中文翻译请大家复制贴上问谷哥。 Jon Hinson, Representative (Republican-Mississippi) — Resigned in 1981 after being charged with attempted sodomy for performing oral sex on a male employee of the Library of Congress.[62] (1981) 被控企图对一名国会图书馆男职员做口交後辞职 Robert Packwood, Senator (Republican-Oregon) — Resigned his office in 1995, after 29 women came forward with claims of sexual harassment, abuse, and assaults. His denials of any wrongdoing were eventually contradicted by his own diaries boasting of his sexual conquests.[83] 职权性骚扰其实是犯罪,但是「有些人认为只是私德问题」....所以列在这里, 指出这种行为被爆出还是导致政客辞职。 Newt Gingrich, Representative (Republican-Georgia) and leader of the Republican Revolution of 1994[92] — Resigned from the House after admitting in 1998 to having had an affair with a staffer while he was married to his second wife, and at the same time he was leading the impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury regarding an affair with his intern Monica Lewinsky.[93][94] 承认与老婆婚礼中的一位工作人员有染之後辞职 Mark Foley, Representative (Republican-Florida) — Resigned his House seat when accused of sending sexually explicit e-mails to teenage male congressional pages. He was replaced by Tim Mahoney. (2006)[112] 被指控对青少年发送色情邮件後辞职 John Ensign, Senator (Republican-Nevada) — Resigned his position as chairman of the Senate Republican Policy Committee on June 16, 2009, after admitting he had an affair with the wife of a close friend, both of whom were working on his campaign.[136] Under investigation, he then resigned his Senate seat 20 months early in 2011.[137] In 1998, Senator Ensign had called for President Bill Clinton (Democrat) to resign after admitting to sexual acts with Monica Lewinsky. (2009)[138] 承认和老婆的密友有染後辞职 --



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1F:→ F04E: 私德是政治人物的基本要求 10/12 10:49
2F:→ kuma660224: 还有考量是怕政客有把柄在敌方手上 10/12 11:19
所提供的联结有个案例是美国国会议员和妓女有染。结果那个妓女还有另个 恩客是俄国间谍。妓女还帮这两人量过时间比较能力还是啥的。那国会议员 被告上法院,法庭证据之一似乎是他那玩意的长度。这案子那议员究竟是因 为性丑闻还是因为跟间谍扯上关系而下台就难以厘清。 教训就是: 政客每次召妓之前最好先清查对方恩客名单。
3F:→ kuma660224: 重点还是其原本形象立场 10/12 11:20
4F:→ kuma660224: 有些国家曾有脱衣舞女郎从政 10/12 11:22
似乎几十年前义大利有个脱星小白菜当上国会议员。这事情成为国际新闻。 之後不久我国似乎也追赶这风潮而有类似人物当上议员,叫做许晓丹还是甚 麽的。但我国之後就没有类似人物了,中央和地方都没有。 其他国家就不清楚了。
5F:→ kuma660224: 本来就公开透明 反而不是问题 10/12 11:22
6F:→ kuma660224: 或是大家都知道你有小三小四 10/12 11:23
7F:→ kuma660224: 你元配与妻妾都支持你 大家也不能说啥 10/12 11:23
8F:→ kuma660224: 这样公开从政 反而不算把柄 只是话题 10/12 11:24
9F:→ kuma660224: 因为并没有伤害原本的人设形象 10/12 11:24
10F:→ kuma660224: 会支持你的不会因此倒戈 10/12 11:25
11F:→ kuma660224: 你没有违法被逮捕 就只是”做自己” 10/12 11:26
12F:→ kuma660224: 那所谓基本要求 其实不是必然 10/12 11:26
13F:→ kuma660224: 只是多数从政者的较安全选择 10/12 11:27
14F:→ kuma660224: 民众真正讨厌的是你欺骗用假人设 10/12 11:29
15F:→ kuma660224: 你本来就风流狂人 就不要装温良恭俭让 10/12 11:30
16F:→ kuma660224: 私领域没有反差 即使不完美也是诚实 10/12 11:31
※ 编辑: saltlake (114.24.139.136 台湾), 10/12/2021 12:05:27







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