废话不多说，我直接写信去NSF问到底全机认证是三小，标志有没有差，得到的回答节 录如下: There are certification marks that are used by all manufacturers who are certified to NSF International standards and certified by NSF International. There are color restrictions and size recommendations for the certification marks. The certification mark by itself does not represent different certification; but rather the list of standards that the product has been certified against as well as the list of contaminants it will reduce is a way to differentiate a product’s certification. 通过NSF标准认证的制造商可以使用认证标志，有颜色上的限制和建议尺寸。 标志本身不代表认证不同，产品本身通过的标准认证，以及能降低的污染列表才能分辨 产品认证的不同。 There are component certifications that we use to verify the components in contact with drinking water are safe to use. These fall under standard 42 and/or 61. They would state as such “certified for material and structural integrity only” whereas the performance of a product is verified as a whole system is under 42, 53, 401, etc. 接触到饮用水的零部件认证是42和/或61，确保使用安全无虞，认证的描述如:仅认证材 质和结构完整性。产品的效能认证是以完整系统来验证，例如42、53、401等。 然後我从安丽官网截图给NSF https://imgur.com/FLHv9OJ.jpg 还有这一堆NSF认证标志https://imgur.com/Eaji0f7.jpg The mark is the same with the exception of the box underneath has different text clarifying the product’s certification. 标志是相同的，除了底下文字标注认证种类的不同。 The certification mark has a ® with it for all marks including the “ independently certified” version. 认证标志有®，包括独立认证版本(官网截图的TM版不知道哪生出来的)。 Mindy Costello, RS MS Consumer Information T 1.800.673.8010 E [email protected] NSF International | www.nsfconsumer.org 789 N. Dixboro Road Ann Arbor, MI 48105 USA 结论:只要像42、53、401属於效能认证本来就是完整全机下去验，不好意思戳破你们 "全机认证">"零件认证"的话术。 当然也就没有专属"全机认证"的标志，官方也说了标志有限制颜色，一大堆各 种标志是一样的，要查表或标志才知道认证种类。 以後要是碰到安丽再用"全机认证"、"标志等级不一样"话虎烂，欢迎拿这篇去 甩他脸。 完整信件有点长，等有空再放。 下次看有没有机会放纽崔莱官方打脸版，话唬烂还是官方打脸最对味。 --

※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc), 来自: 36.230.203.138 ※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/DirectSales/M.1512417031.A.8CD.html 不知道是打到什麽脸，一开始我就说储水桶要不是包在RO系统里就是在61，看不懂硬要欢？ 对啊，啊42除氯、口感效能就要验全机啊，不是自豪只有你们是验全机？尤其sohuanjin还 信誓旦旦标志会不一样嘞。 安安，是要用纽崔莱官方文章打脸你们喔 我信的容就有写啊，标志本身无法直接知道认证内容，要查列表啊，你是要跟sohuanjin说标志会不一样的说法来个网内互打吗？ ※ 编辑: d200190 (111.71.16.197), 12/05/2017 08:47:33 ※ 编辑: d200190 (111.71.16.197), 12/05/2017 08:50:22 我查证，我搞错，我道歉。不会就查，有错就认，我会思考我骄傲。 我觉得齁，是不是有人阅读能力有问题，我都翻成中文了耶。 官方白纸黑字这样写了就看大家要信谁啦。 "etc." "例如"，语文能力各位看官自有评论。 https://goo.gl/Mq8Zqg 1. NSF/ANSI 42 Filters are certified to reduce aesthetic impurities such as chlorine and taste/odor. These can be point-of-use (under the sink, water pitcher, etc.) or point-of-entry (whole house) treatment systems. 滤心经认证能够降低令人不快的杂质，例如余氯、气味。 2. NSF/ANSI 53 Filters are certified to reduce a contaminant with a health effect. Health effects are set in this standard as regulated by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Health Canada. Both standards 42 and 53 cover adsorption/filtration which is a process that occurs when liquid, gas or dissolved/suspended matter adheres to the surface of, or in the pores of, an adsorbent media. Carbon filters are an example of this type of product. 滤心经认证能够降低影响卫生的污染。本标准所称影响卫生的效果由美国环保署EPA及 加拿大卫生部HC规范。42及53标准涵盖的范围包括吸附和过滤，碳滤心是这类产品中 的一例。 3. NSF/ANSI 44 Water softeners use a cation exchange resin that is regenerated with sodium or potassium chloride. The softener reduces hardness caused by calcium and magnesium ions and replaces them with sodium or potassium ions. 利用阳离子交换树脂释放钠或钾，与水中的钙、镁离子作交换以软化水质。 4. NSF/ANSI 55 Ultraviolet treatment systems use ultraviolet light to inactivate or kill bacteria, viruses and cysts in contaminated water (Class A systems) or to reduce the amount of non-disease causing bacteria in disinfected drinking water (Class B). 紫外线系统用以不活化或杀死污染水源中的细菌、病毒或囊孢(Class A)或者减少饮 用水中非致病性细菌数量(Class B) 5. NSF/ANSI 58 Reverse osmosis systems incorporate a process that uses reverse pressure to force water through a semi-permeable membrane. Most reverse osmosis systems incorporate one or more additional filters on either side of the membrane. These systems reduce contaminants that are regulated by Health Canada and EPA. 利用压力使水穿过半透膜的逆渗透系统。大多RO系统在半透膜前後会加上一至两道 额外过滤器。这些系统能够降低HC和EPA规范的污染源。 6. NSF/ANSI 62 Distillation systems heat water to the boiling point, and then collect the water vapor as it condenses, leaving behind contaminants such as heavy metals. Some contaminants that convert readily into gases, such as volatile organic chemicals, can carry over with the water vapor. 蒸馏系统-将水加热至超过沸点并收集蒸汽，藉此除去像重金属这类污染。有些污染 能够化为气体，例如挥发性有机物，会一同带入水蒸汽。 NSF/ANSI 177 是淋浴设备的过滤器我就不算了。 7. NSF/ANSI 401 Treatment systems for emerging contaminants include both point-of-use and point-of-entry systems that have been verified to reduce one or more of 15 emerging contaminants from drinking water. These emerging contaminants can be pharmaceuticals or chemicals not yet regulated by the EPA or Health Canada. 针对新兴污染源的水处理设备。可以去除饮用水中15种新兴污染中的一种或多种污 染。新兴污染源是指尚未被EPA或HC规范的化学物或制剂产物。 8. NSF P477 These point-of-use filters reduce microcystin (toxins produced by blue-green algae) below the health advisory set by the EPA. 能够将蓝绿藻毒素降至EPA建议之下的滤心。 9. NSF P473 PFOA/PFOS water filters or systems are evaluated on their ability to reduce PFOA and PFOS in drinking water and to meet strict material safety and structural requirements as defined in NSF/ANSI 53. 全氟辛酸/全氟辛磺酸滤心，用以降低饮用水中的全氟辛酸/全氟辛磺酸以达成53中 定义的材质安全以及结构性要求。 10. NSF P231 Microbiological water purifiers are certified for health and sanitation based on the recommendations of the EPA’s Task Force Report, Guide Standard and Protocol for Testing Microbiological Water Purifiers (1987) (Annex B). 符合公共卫生及健康的微生物滤水器。 11. NSF/JWPA P72 Iodine radioisotope point-of-use treatment options are evaluated for reduction of all forms of iodine in drinking water. This protocol was developed in conjunction with the Japan Water Purifier Association (JWPA). 碘同位素处理设备，经评估能够降低饮用水中所有形式的碘。 12. NSF/ANSI 61 (不在水处理设备这一页) Drinking Water System Components – Health Effects by most governmental agencies that regulate drinking water supplies. Developed by a team of scientists, industry experts and key industry stakeholders, NSF/ANSI 61 sets health effects criteria for many water system components including: Protective barrier materials (cements, paints, coatings) Joining and sealing materials (gaskets, adhesives, lubricants) Mechanical devices (water meters, valves, filters) Pipes and related products (pipe, hose, fittings) Plumbing devices (faucets, drinking fountains) Process media (filter media, ion exchange resins) Non-metallic potable water materials 饮用水设备零部件-政府机构规范之卫生效果，61制订了许多零部件的卫生标准， 包括: 涂料、阀门、瓣膜、滤心blahblahblah... 嫌太长也没关系啦，安丽自己的五项+61一项，这样是几项? 要不要借你计算机? ※ 编辑: d200190 (36.230.203.138), 12/05/2017 22:13:06 澄清一下齁，从以前到现在，美国欧洲的安丽官网或官方产品声明都很乖，人家卖得好我 也不否认，偏偏到了台湾就歪到不知道哪里去，被你们这些人扯着虎皮当大旗。 你们自己跳出来给人打脸的东西，我都没有在国外的官网上看到，那我想在台湾名声会臭 掉是安丽的问题还是底下直销商的问题就很明显了嘛。还有甚麽自创的科学/认证通通拿 出来啦，我直接丢给美国总公司让他们自己洗地啦，不过我看NSF说明都没在鸟了，总公 司大概也是无奈。 ※ 编辑: d200190 (36.230.203.138), 12/06/2017 00:54:37 I don't care. 反正台湾直销护航到最後一步就是"我们卖很好"，哪怕用话术甚至伪科学去哄骗消费者 都不在乎。 ※ 编辑: d200190 (36.230.203.138), 12/06/2017 01:11:24