作者rabinson (何时无事一身轻?)
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标题Re: [问题] 关於AGELOC~ 是否为夸大呢?
时间Fri Aug 20 03:47:55 2010
※ 引述《swordrainbow (虹)》之铭言:
: : → fatcats:直接提出"基因重设"的中文文件或是文宣吧 115.43.156.251 07/20 13:04
: : → fatcats:这样大家的焦点就会在该公司了~不是针对你 115.43.156.251 07/20 13:04
: : → fatcats:如果提不出中文文件或是文宣 商人VS专业 115.43.156.251 07/20 13:05
: : → fatcats:你要消费者相信谁? 115.43.156.251 07/20 13:06
: 因为有人想看文宣所以就PO一下
: http://www.nuskin.com.tw/p/sp/ageloc/page2-2-1.html
: 对於ageloc,他声称的重设基因,依照上面写的正确应该说调控基因
: 就前几篇有提到过,我知道直销商都跟牛仔一样忙,因此公司这里必需要提供
: 正确的教育训练与资源,毕竟有许多案例是因为上线及公司的教育错误
: 致使直销商被告而无法翻身,而这时公司当初签约的条款(NS的)又写到
: 直销商个人的宣传话语与公司无关类似的话,这时直销商就又变成了公司的
: 代罪羔羊,公司并不保护直销商的,你有事是直接取消直销商资格,
: 也没了那所谓领一辈子的奖金。因此身为直销商不要全盘相信公司跟上线说的话
: 你的事不关他的事,请思考过後再行动
: 另外我昨天也查了一下ageloc所引用的部分论文,对於基因调控并没有提很多
: 反倒是抗氧化的部分引用蛮多篇
: 最後的结论是,这次文宣有点不实(对於重设基因这句话),有兴趣的人可以去提告看看
回这篇旧闻,因为昨天有Nuskin的朋友跟我介绍这个产品,
但是跟我对生化的了解差异甚大,
所以特地上网搜寻~
NS的官方文宣的确有提到基因重设的概念,
而他们的直销商的话术,也一再提到,
让基因表现回到刚出厂的状态。
但是保养品可以达到基因层次?
人成年之後,基因还会影响皮肤?
让我半信半疑。
查了ns文宣上一再引用的两篇论文:(附上论文大意)
并附上一份ns用的ppt
http://www.slideshare.net/st7899/ageloc
论文内容
1.Gene Expression Profile of Aging and Its Retardation by Caloric Restriction
摘要:
The gene expression profile of the aging process was analyzed in
skeletalmuscle
of mice. Use of high-density oligonucleotide arrays representing 6347 genes
revealed that aging resulted in a differential gene expression pattern
indicative
of amarked stress response and lower expression ofmetabolic and biosynthetic
genes.Most alterations were either completely or partially prevented by
caloric
restriction, the only intervention known to retard aging in mammals. Tran-
scriptional patterns of calorie-restricted animals suggest that caloric
restriction
retards the aging process by causing a metabolic shift toward increased
protein
turnover and decreased macromolecular damage.
简单说是:卡路里跟老化有关连。
2.Caloric Restriction Delays Disease Onset and Mortality in Rhesus Monkeys
在猴子身上实验对照组
Caloric restriction (CR), without malnutrition, delays aging and extends life
span in diverse species;
however, its effect on resistance to illness and mortality in primates has
not been clearly
established. We report findings of a 20-year longitudinal adult-onset CR
study in rhesus monkeys
aimed at filling this critical gap in aging research. In a population of
rhesus macaques maintained
at the Wisconsin National Primate Research Center, moderate CR lowered the
incidence of
aging-related deaths. At the time point reported, 50% of control fed animals
survived as compared
with 80% of the CR animals. Furthermore, CR delayed the onset of
age-associated pathologies.
Specifically, CR reduced the incidence of diabetes, cancer, cardiovascular
disease, and brain
atrophy. These data demonstrate that CR slows aging in a primate species.
大意:控制卡路里摄取,有助减缓老化。
我实在不知道这两篇论文跟「保养品能够改变基因表现」的关联在哪里.....
ps.再附上英文版的ppt
里面确实有提到
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16812783/Joe-Team-Elite
"resetting youth gene"的字眼
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1F:推 t0444564:><,可以参考下高中生物中的"乳糖操作组" 98.154.25.116 08/20 04:39
2F:→ t0444564:这样子ageLOC的基因机制就很清楚了 98.154.25.116 08/20 04:39
3F:→ rabinson:不懂? 119.77.234.181 08/20 04:47
4F:推 t0444564:我寄Email说明好了>< 98.154.25.116 08/20 05:16
5F:推 Taurnil:可以公开说明阿 想了解的又不是只有一位122.122.185.235 08/20 08:51
6F:推 sn7:广告嘛...为了卖出产品 部分的夸大是可允许的 61.62.90.218 08/20 09:56
7F:推 t0444564:也是XD,只是我刚好忘记repo了= = 98.154.25.116 08/20 09:57
8F:推 t0444564:因为我刚好是想要替这位板友说明,所以"" 98.154.25.116 08/20 10:00
9F:推 LivedEarl:重点在於"基因表现是可以被改变的",保 61.230.4.35 08/20 11:03
10F:→ LivedEarl:养品只是其中一种运用这种技术的媒介 61.230.4.35 08/20 11:05
11F:→ sogfried:可以爬我的文可能可以帮助了解 203.64.247.68 08/20 11:34