http://ppt.cc/Ryc3 来自红袜的部落客 Yu Darvish's jokes aside, the New York Yankees overpaid for Masahiro Tanaka If you thought that the $175 million that the New York Yankees spent on signing Masahiro Tanaka and paying off his former Japanese Pro Baseball team was too much money, you're not alone. Not only are you not alone, but you just might have something in common with the No.1 starter on the Texas Rangers. That No.1 starter is Yu Darvish, and he knows a thing or two about pitching in Japan, transitioning to the majors and signing big contracts along the way. 如果你认为洋基队付了175M签下田中是付太多，你并不孤单。 不是只有你这样认为，还有游骑兵队no.1先发达比修，他看法跟你一样。 Two years ago, Darvish was a free agent coming over to the majors, very much like Tanaka. Tuesday afternoon, when Darvish addressed the media, he was asked about the deal Tanaka signed with the Yankees. "I don’t know the details of the posting system but I think the Yankees gave him a little bit too much," Darvish said. Just over two years ago, Darvish signed a six-year, $56 million deal with the Texas Rangers. The Rangers also had to fork over $51.7 million to his Japanese Pro Team, the Nippon-Ham Fighters. The Yankees spent much less on Tanaka's posting fee ($20 million) but a put a great deal more money towards his final contract ($155 million) 二年前，达比修刚挑战大联盟时，就跟田中的条件是一样的。 当昨天他被问到对於田中签约的想法，他说他不知道新入札金制度是怎样运作， 但觉得洋基给太多钱。 达比休二年前跟游骑兵的合约是56M/6年，入札金是51.7M。 洋基付给田中的合约是155M/7年，入札金是20M。 Considering that Darvish was basically the same age as Tanaka when he signed with a major league team, and that Darvish had as good, if not a more impressive Japanese Pro resume, Darvish's comments were newsworthy. 考量达比修当年签约的时候跟田中的年纪是相同的，而达比修跟他一样好， 他的履历表更好看，所以他的意见是会被采列为新闻的。 Was this sour grapes? It is tough to tell. For his part, Darvish must have immediately sensed the uproar his comments could cause because less than an hour after those comments, Darvish backtracked and claimed he was joking. 是酸葡萄心理吗? 这很难说，依他的情况，达比修一定马上警觉到，他的看法 已造成骚动，所以1小时後发出声明他只是开玩笑的。 "I am sorry if anyone took my comment seriously about Masahiro Tanaka at the press conference today," Darvish said in a statement. "I assumed by the reaction in the room that everyone knew I was joking." 他说「如果有人认真看待我的玩笑，那我很抱歉，但我认为应该都听得出来我只是开玩笑 吧」! Whether Darvish was joking or not, he has a point: The money the Yankees spent on the unproven Tanaka blows away a legit Cy Young candidate -- like Darvish. 不管达比修是不是真的在开玩笑，这句话重点是:洋基撒了一笔钱在尚未能证明自己的田中 身上，已远超过一位赛扬级投手的价钱-谁呢? 就像是达比修。 Tanaka isn't the first the Japanese pitcher that every major league baseball fan have buzzed about in recent years. Before him, fans were talking about Darvish, and before that, they were talking about Daisuke Matsuzaka. 田中不是第一个日籍投手挑战大联盟的，在他之前，人们讨论的对象是达比修，更早之前 讨论的对象是松坂大辅。 Matsuzaka's well documented struggles with the Boston Red Sox, combined with a much less player-friendly posting system probably combined to deflate the market for Darvish back in 2011. 松坂在红袜的挣扎表现，再加上对於球员不利的入札金制度，结合起来就是 一个不热的市场，时光要回溯到2011年达比修入札的那年冬天。 Darvish's success since arriving in the majors, combined with a new, far more player-friendly posting system combined to create the massively inflated market for Tanaka. 达比修的成功再结合上对於球员极为有利的新入札金制度，就创造出这种火热的市场 给了田中将大。 It didn't hurt that the New York Yankees weren't all that serious about signing Darvish back in 2011. That's a dramatic departure from the laser-like focus that Brian Cashman put into signing Tanaka this past offseason. 洋基队在2011年没有很认真地要去签达比修，这个冬天现金人全力集焦在田中将大身上。 It can't be a complete coincidence that the Yankees maximum offer to five-time All-Star second baseman Robinson Cano, just happened to be for the identical amount ($175 million) that the team spent on Tanaka. NYY把要签给Cano的报价跟签下田中的金额一样不能说是纯粹巧合。 However, was Darvish right in questioning the Tanaka contract, even if it was a joke? It will be difficult for the 2013 crossover to live up to the standard set by Darvish. Is Tanaka going to lead the AL in strikeouts, finish second in the AL Cy Young balloting, and have an ERA under 3.00, all within his first two years of pitching in the majors? 然而，即使达比修说田中领太多只是个玩笑话，但..不正确吗? 达比修已经在2013年球季，设下了一个标准。 田中有可能领先美联投手群成为三振王吗? 票选为赛扬奖第二吗? 或者是ERA低於3 在他MLB前2年之内达成? Forget any excuses about pitching in Yankee Stadium, the ballpark the Rangers play in is every bit the launching pad the new stadium in New York City is. Darvish also has to pitch through the unbearably hot summers in Arlington, Texas. 不要拿在洋基球场投球作为理由，游骑兵主场并不会比较好投，甚至还必须在德州 阿灵顿令人难以忍受的夏日高温下投球。 In 2013, no pitcher in the American League gave up fewer hits per nine innings pitched than the 6.2 that Darvish allowed.He only won 13 games, but he was playing for a Rangers team that struggled to consistently score runs. 2013年美联没有任一投手被打击率比达比修还低，但他只赢了13场胜投。 因为游骑兵队得分效率不好。 Darvish's rookie season wasn't nearly as good as his follow-up, but he won 16 games pitching for a Rangers team with a more potent offense. 达比修的菜鸟球季没有2013年好反而拿下16胜，因为那时候游骑兵阵容比较完整。 The Rangers are scheduled to spend $10 million a year, for the next three seasons of Darvish's Cy Young-caliber production. 未来3年，游骑兵只要每年付10M就可以买下达比修剩下3个赛扬产能的球季。 The Yankees will spend $22 million on Tanaka this coming season. It would be foolish to expect Tanaka's 2014 to be all that much better than Darvish's rookie season in Texas was, and he will earn more than twice as much. 田中的球季，洋基队是每年花了22M买下。如果你认为2014年的田中会比2012年的达比修 表现更好，那还真有点傻，更遑论他拿了达比修的2倍以上薪水。 It doesn't add-up. Back in January of 2012, then-Rangers CEO -- and Hall of Fame starting pitcher -- Nolan Ryan has high praise for Darvish immediately after he was signed. "I think he certainly has the potential to be (an ace)," Ryan said. "It's not fair of me to say that I see him as our No. 1, but I certainly think he has the potential," Ryan said. "He's very unique." 时光倒转一下到2012年，名人堂投手Nolan Ryan在达比修签下的同时就称赞这位投手， 他说「我认为他有潜力成为一位ACE，我现在说他是队上一号不是很公平， 但我认为他有那个潜力，他很特别。」 Fast forward to present day New York City. Less than two weeks ago, Cashman told ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd what he expects from his $175 million investment. "We view him to be a really solid, consistent No. 3 starter," Cashman said on "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" on ESPN Radio. "If we get more than that, all the better. He's got a great deal of ability." 时间再快转到2周前，现金人上电台访问时说道他如何期待这位砸了175M投资的投手: 「我们把他当作是队上的三号先发，如果他表现比预期好，那更好。」 Darvish is pitching like a No. 1 and getting paid like a No. 3. 达比修投球像一号，领的是的三号的薪水。 Tanaka may or may not pitch like a No. 1, but he sure is getting paid like one. This in spite of the fact that even his own team isn't expecting him to be all that much more than a No. 3. 田中不一定会投得像一号，但他确定是拿一号的薪水。 他的母队期待他能投得跟三号一样就OK。 The comments made by Darvish sparked a bit of an uproar, but they really shouldn't have. Even if Darvish wasn't joking, he's got good reasons to feel underpaid, and good reasons to speculate that Tanaka is overpaid. 达比修说的话引起一阵骚动，但不用这样夸张吧 即使达比修不是开玩笑，他绝对有有理由认为自己领太少，也有理由认为田中领太多。 -- @faridyu:何に谢るのかわかりません。。 what should I apologize for? --

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