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转贴新闻:'German Tourists Make the Most Ridiculous Complaints' 原始连结: http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,777374,00.html German tourists tend to use precious vacation time hunting for flaws in their vacation packages or accomodations. With the right evidence, they hope to score a discount or reimbursement. Tourism expert Karl Born talks to SPIEGEL ONLINE about what makes German complaints especially unique. SPIEGEL ONLINE: Mr. Born, you once said in a presentation that 'complaints are as much a part of any holiday as the Eiffel Tower is a part of Paris and the Hofbrauhaus beer hall a part of Munich.' The Germans are known for being frontrunners in global travel -- but are they also world champions at complaining? Born: In other countries, the complaint culture is obviously not as extreme as in Germany -- especially when you see what Germans complain about. There is an enormous variety of complaints, ranging from the legitimate to the absurd. The Germans are behind a disproportionately high number of the ridiculous complaints. SPIEGEL ONLINE: As the head of TUI have you experienced this personally? Born: A hotel manager from Tenerife told me that tourists from other countries generally go about things a bit more elegantly. For instance, if they want to upgrade to a better room, the Italians will compliment the hotel staff and smile, while the Swiss often cite health problems as a reason for needing an upgrade. Germans, on the other hand, don't beat around the bush and simply say, 'If you don't change this, I'm going to sue you.' SPIEGEL ONLINE: And who has the most success? Born: Italy, ahead of Switzerland -- and the Germans' problems are addressed last, according to this colleague. SPIEGEL ONLINE: Perhaps the Germans know too much about their rights for their own good? Born: Maybe. The worst part is the famous 'Frankfurt Table...' SPIEGEL ONLINE: ... a table that lists the percentage that may be reimbursed for specified shortcomings in tourism and travel services. Born: Exactly. Many Germans are convinced that this table is the law, when in fact it's only meant to serve as a guideline for the courts when they are presented with cases related to travel and tourism complaints. The German newspaper Bild prints the table every year and people then take this with them on holiday. Now tour guides are used to these people and know how to discourage them, because many incorrectly believe that they can just add up the individual values on the list. (eds. Note: There is a set limit to the percentage that can be reimbursed) SPIEGEL ONLINE: That would make for some pretty large sums. Say the area of the hotel room is too small, there is a crack in the wall, the linen isn't changed once and my table in the dining room isn't clean. Based on that alone, I could add up a claim for a 50 percent reimbursement per day. Born: Exactly. And if you've already managed to reach a 50 percent reimbursement, then the drive kicks in to push it to 100 percent. But those are the truly hardcore complainers -- less than one percent of travelers take it that far. And I actually feel sorry for those people because they ruin their own holiday constantly looking for flaws. SPIEGEL ONLINE: But from the perspective of tour operators, it's a problem when notorious whiners are constantly reporting their negative travel experiences to their friends. Born: It's one of the major topics of conversation when you're at a party. One person starts talking about his vacation with TUI, and then every person present has his own horror story to share. Only two topics have this domino effect -- holidays and car trouble. SPIEGEL ONLINE: Give us one tip: What should a complaint look like, if one wants to get at least a 10 percent reimbursement from TUI? Born: There certainly has to be truth to the complaint. TUI is a difficult opponent because you're going up against experienced professionals. They have processed thousands of complaints, so it's relatively unlikely that a person can get a reimbursement for an invented complaint that lacks good evidence. But let's say, you had construction work making noise outside of your hotel window. Take a couple of photos and send them, along with signed testimonies of two other hotel guests who support your complaint. With a tactic like that, you'll likely get some money back. I don't know if it will get you a reimbursement of ten percent, though. The important thing is that you can back up the complaint with evidence. SPIEGEL ONLINE: One customer won a case against TUI because he claimed that the adventure vacation he was promised had been too normal, and that his life had never been in danger. How can German travel law possibly support such a ruling? Born: It's true that the man argued in court that his life had never been in danger -- but that's not why he got his money back. He won the case because a certain part of the travel package, which was meant to be especially adventurous and exciting, did not take place. SPIEGEL ONLINE: Are there any other complaints you will never forget? Born: Once a tourist tried to pet a crocodile in West Africa. It snapped at him but fortunately didn't hurt him. The man claimed that he should have been explicitly warned against petting the crocodile and even went to court. It took the judge about five minutes to throw the case out, saying that it's common knowledge that you should not pet a crocodile. You don't need an expert to tell you that. Another person filed a complaint last year and received a 10 percent reimbursement as a courtesy. Later, he said he wanted 20 percent because prices had increased. In cases like that I really have to wonder if these people are just joking or if they are actually crazy. Interview by Stephan Orth. The text originally appeared in the book "Sorry, Ihr Hotel ist abgebrannt," or "Sorry, Your Hotel Has Burned Down," co-authored by Orth and Antje Blinda, and published by Ullstein. -- "The Force is strong in Desirewu. May the force be with him, always." ▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁ ████████████████████████████||||█ ▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔ Made by Johnmike --



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1F:推 PPTer:默默找翻译机 08/02 17:06
2F:→ shizz:Sorry. I don't see anything in the article/interview 08/02 17:08
3F:→ shizz:that's cultural related beside the topic line.... 08/02 17:09
4F:推 Realthugz:Much to learn, you still have, my young padawan. 08/02 21:16
5F:→ DonaldDuck:喔 可能是因为之前听到很多对於德国观光客的刻板印象 08/03 00:00
6F:→ DonaldDuck:尤其是吹毛求疵的性格甚至显示在出国旅游应该放松的 08/03 00:01
7F:→ DonaldDuck:的时候,有很多德国人却是忙着拿相机拍摄旅馆房间的 08/03 00:01
8F:→ DonaldDuck:瑕疵拿来换取旅馆折扣 08/03 00:02
9F:→ DonaldDuck:另外,还有不同国家的人想找旅馆讨"公道"时的态度 08/03 00:03
10F:→ DonaldDuck:根据报导有很多德国观光客夸张到会把退费/折扣的指标 08/03 00:05
11F:→ DonaldDuck:携带在身上,然後旅游时拿出来比对,希望可以累计... 08/03 00:05
12F:→ DonaldDuck:才享有更多折扣... 08/03 00:06
13F:→ DonaldDuck:当然shizz可能觉得关於"果汁机"的文章比较涉及文化冲击 08/03 00:08
14F:→ DonaldDuck:那我也没办法了:P 08/03 00:08
15F:推 shizz:可能是我读了以後觉得内文比较在讲要怎样的理由才能拿到折扣 08/03 16:14
16F:→ shizz:唯一看到他指名是德国人的就只有第一个问题... 後面都没明说 08/03 16:14
17F:→ shizz:也可能因为我人在美国 比较少听到德国观光客的刻板印象 08/03 16:14
18F:→ shizz:如果你觉得我是想跟你挑毛病的话我道歉 我没有那个意思 08/03 16:15
19F:→ shizz:至於果汁机 我不懂耶....? 什麽果汁机? 08/03 16:15
20F:→ shizz:哈哈哈 懂了 wow 原来是三年前的一篇文章被翻出来 我只是就 08/03 16:23
21F:→ shizz:标题跟着讨论串回了我的经验罢了 不需要比较吧? :) 08/03 16:24
22F:→ DonaldDuck:一开始也有先比较义大利人和瑞士人处理上的差异 08/03 18:27
23F:→ DonaldDuck:例如义大利人是面带微笑去客诉,效果反而比较好 08/03 18:27
24F:→ DonaldDuck:而报导中表示德国人是倾向用最直接的方式 摆明就是 08/03 18:27
25F:→ DonaldDuck:不给折扣就告你的态度 08/03 18:28
26F:→ DonaldDuck:我想是不是因为是转英文报导,会比较敏感 给人感觉是 08/03 18:29
27F:→ DonaldDuck:刻意转英文 不转中文...其实是因为刚好看到就是英文 08/03 18:29
28F:→ DonaldDuck:而且版上大家语言程度也蛮好的,就没有想这麽多 08/03 18:29
29F:→ DonaldDuck:而且平常台湾的新闻也经常只是翻译外国报导,转一手资 08/03 18:31
30F:→ DonaldDuck:料应该是比较不会有多一层翻译的隔阂 08/03 18:32
31F:→ DonaldDuck:我会提果汁机也是因为你推文中对关於文化冲击相关的 08/03 18:33
32F:→ DonaldDuck:批评与指教,毕竟就是比较的产物,比较符合和比较不符 08/03 18:33
33F:→ DonaldDuck:合板旨,所以直接看你的标准是如何预设作为参考 08/03 18:34
34F:→ DonaldDuck:如果语气不佳有冒犯到的话 也跟您说声抱歉 08/03 18:35
35F:→ DonaldDuck:有时候我回文太直接了 很抱歉 08/03 18:35
36F:推 bahnhof:德国观光客曾被全世界旅馆业者票选为最受欢迎观光客第二名 08/03 23:41
37F:→ bahnhof:第一名是日本人 http://ppt.cc/s(Q6 08/03 23:42
38F:推 bahnhof:反而这位卡尔蹦先生推崇的义大利人不甚受旅馆业者欢迎 08/03 23:46
39F:推 sunnychu:卡尔蹦XDDDDDD 08/04 00:32
40F:→ shizz:D大,可能是用文字表达语气有困难吧~ 我也抱歉 我不是认为 08/04 00:39
41F:→ shizz:你的文章跟板旨不服,我本来看到title也觉得很有兴趣,只是 08/04 00:41
42F:→ shizz:看到内文後觉得文章内并没有提到太多跟标题相关的部份,觉得 08/04 00:43
43F:→ shizz:有一点点失望罢了… 不是说你不该po这篇真的!只是想看到 08/04 00:45
44F:→ shizz:更多可以佐证此印象的文章,对我也是学习 08/04 00:46







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