作者Hans14 ( )
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标题Re: Good news on Prior's elbow
时间Thu Sep 16 01:03:18 2004
※ 引述《EdJay (会冷会冷果实能力者)》之铭言:
: 照完了MRI显示韧带没有受伤 ( ′-`)~呼
: 如果小普可以通过这几天的测试
: 那麽他还是可以继续他下次的先发
: 应该也不会把他摆在DL里面
: 医生还说他的韧带还很强壮同时保持着很好的形状
: 保证不可能要进行Tommy John或是韧带重健的手术
: ( 大家好像都预期他会加入Tommy John俱乐部o(一︿一+)o )
: 小普加油啊!
Mike Marshall--1974国联赛扬奖, 人体运动学博士, 从事於投球技术之研究与
教学. 迄今保持单季出赛106场..等纪录
Mark Prior被称为拥有完美投球动作的投手, Prior受教於Tom House
但Dr.Marshall则持相反看法, 他曾发表标题为"Mark Prior's mechanics
are fundamentally flawed"的文章.
其主要论点为:
" Actually, Mr. Prior is the poster child for everything
that is wrong with the 'traditional' pitching motion. He reverse
rotates too far. He bends his pitching elbow way too far before he
uses his pitching upper arm to pull his pitching elbow laterally back
to his pitching arm side. He has a very large loop behind his head,
which causes a reverse pitching forearm bounce. This loop combined
with the nearly forty-five degree lateral angle at which he pulls his
pitching forearm back to his pitching arm side generates a very power
-ful centripetal force that slings his pitching forearm outward from
his body. Let me take high-speed film of him and everybody will know
better.
The centripetal force that he generates causes his olecranon
process to slam into its fossa. As a result, he is gradually and
surely losing elbow extension range of motion. To prevent his pitching
elbow from slamming his olecranon process into its fossa, he has to
powerfully contract his Brachialis muscle. As a result, he is gradually
and surely losing elbow flexion range of motion. Like the character
in Fight Game, he is beating himself up."
以上节录自
http://www.drmikemarshall.com/Question-Answer2004.html
http://www.drmikemarshall.com/ 即为其个人网站.
据说Dr.Marshall在去年季後赛便曾与"Saving the Pitcher"一书作者W. Carroll
提及M. Prior姿势之缺点; 另一预言是, Tom House与Randy Johnson去年研究让
放球点更靠近本垒板一些, 结果现在Johnson必须要动膝盖手术.
是否为马後炮, 只待继续观察.
W. Carroll虽然写书名为"Saving the Pitcher", 但是Dr.Marshall亦与此人不合
, 认为Carroll的研究没有根据.
而Carroll在自己的blog给予如此评价: "Dr. Marshall is the living embodiment
of passion, but it's both positive and negative."
有趣的是, Dr. Marshall对於传统投球理论的抗辩, 总是用上许多专有名词, 实际
去阐扬他自己的理论(对错与否, 门外汉实难分辨); W. Carroll却没办法使用同样
的语言与之正面辩论, 流於口水之争, 如:
"Marshall has done all the research and methodology, yet he has no
'publishable' results. When people ask me about certain pitching coaches
, I can point to their pitchers.
House? Prior, Ryan, Johnson. Mazzone? Smoltz, Glavine, and whoever this
year's reclamation project is. Dick Mills has Barry Zito (though Zito
also worked with Tom House.)
If Marshall's techniques are THAT GOOD - and I can't dispute that they
are - then he should be able to either place a pitcher in high level
competition or he's working with such inferior material that we have
to seriously question why." 言下之意, 就是笑他没有教出多高明的徒弟.
大致看过Dr.Marshall的理念之後, 我想大部分人会有他的理论是"一体适用"的
感觉, 似乎不管投手天赋如何, 就是练成同一套动作(他的书是详尽描述每一动
作的), 再加上他教出的投球动作很怪, 会相信他那套理论的人也就更少了.
曾受过Dr.Marshall训练的Jeff Sparks, 据说那种动作曾经使Sparks达到96mph
的球速. Jeff Sparks现在Nashua Pride打球, 2003还在Bangor Lumberjacks.
http://www.montyrand.com/galleries/Lumberjacks/2003/Pages/27.html
http://www.montyrand.com/galleries/Lumberjacks/2003/Pages/28.html
他有些有趣观念:
1.生理年龄达到13岁之前, 禁止在以竞技为目的之比赛中投球. 小投手一年只须
练投两个月, 一周两场比赛, 每场比赛只投一局. 以熟悉技巧为目的. 学习变
化球无妨, 因其目的并非竞技之用.
2.相较於对年幼投手手臂的保护, 在职业层级的竞技, 他反而建议只要经过他适
当训练, MLB球团亦不妨使用四人投手轮值. 他说投球後冰敷是为了增加血流
量, 促进代谢废物. 但是经过他的训练, 投球臂血管增生(vascularization)
不须冰敷即可达到相同目的.
3.关於投手调度, 他坚持只让投手在一场比赛中最多面对先发打线三轮, 除非是
特殊状况. 这个观念就比较死板..
Dr.Marshall可以说是完全否定目前世界上最好的投手, 是一位饱受争议的人物.
但其论点或许并非全为虚妄空谈, 提供各位参考.
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※ 编辑: Hans14 来自: 218.171.149.33 (09/16 18:50)