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标题Re: [转录][新闻] wiki解密﹐美驻京使馆22年前密电
时间Thu Sep 15 19:11:15 2011
你这个摘要真是做的不太好
我帮你做一次
摘要: There was no Tiananmen Square massacre,
but there was a Beijing massacre".
维基解密有一个重点是看电文编号 这一篇能不能找出电文编号?
另外 "天安门广场没死人 广场外死了一堆人"
这不是以前PRC版友就强调过几百遍了XD
虽然都只有强调前半句啦
跟那个什麽共识一样
只讲一个XX 不谈各自OO
※ 引述《huzhou (菰城公子)》之铭言:
: ※ [本文转录自 IA 看板 #1ESM9FVh ]
: 作者: lotayuyuejia (lotayu) 看板: IA
: 标题: [新闻] wiki解密﹐美驻京使馆22年前密电
: 时间: Thu Sep 15 10:26:21 2011
: 标题:
: 新闻来源: (须有正确连结)
: 美驻京使馆密电表明﹐天安门广场无流血事件。部分西媒参与捏造。
: Wikileaks: no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim
: Secret cables from the United States embassy in Beijing have shown there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square when China put down student pro-democracy demonstrations 22 years ago.
: The cables, obtained by WikiLeaks and released exclusively by The Daily Telegraph, partly confirm the Chinese government's account of the early hours of June 4, 1989, which has always insisted that soldiers did not massacre demonstrators inside Tiananmen Square.
: Instead, the cables show that Chinese soldiers opened fire on protesters outside the centre of Beijing, as they fought their way towards the square from the west of the city.
: Three cables were sent from the US embassy on June 3, in the hours leading up to the suppression, as diplomats realised that the final showdown between the protesters and soldiers was looming.
: The cables described the "10,000 to 15,000 helmeted armed troops" moving into the city, some of whom were "carrying automatic weapons".
: Meanwhile, "elite airborne troops" and "tank units" were said to be moving up from the south.
: The army came up against "an elaborate system of blockades", described in a cable from May 21, 1989, which allowed students to "control much of central Beijing".
: Diplomats observed that "there were buses turned sideways to form roadblocks" and students had vowed the army would not be able to cross. "But we doubt it", one cable added. Students also used teams of motorcycle couriers to communicate with the roadblocks, sending reinforcements where needed.
: As the troops moved in, the cables stated that diplomatic staff were repeatedly warned to "stay at home" unless involved in front-line reporting. "The situation in the centre of the city is very confused," said a cable from June 3. "Political officers at the Beijing Hotel reported that troops are pushing a large crowd east on Chang'an avenue. Although these troops appear not to be firing on the crowd, they report firing behind the troops coming from the square".
: Inside the square itself, a Chilean diplomat was on hand to give his US counterparts an eyewitness account of the final hours of the pro-democracy movement.
: "He watched the military enter the square and did not observe any mass firing of weapons into the crowds, although sporadic gunfire was heard. He said that most of the troops which entered the square were actually armed only with anti-riot gear – truncheons and wooden clubs; they were backed up by armed soldiers," a cable from July 1989 said.
: The diplomat, who was positioned next to a Red Cross station inside Tiananmen Square, said a line of troops surrounded him and "panicked" medical staff into fleeing. However, he said that there was "no mass firing into the crowd of students at the monument".
: According to internal Communist party files, released in 2001, 2,000 soldiers from the 38th army, together with 42 armoured vehicles, began slowly sweeping across the square from north to south at 4.30am on June 4. At the time, around 3,000 students were sitting around the Monument to the People's Heroes on the southern edge of the giant square, near Chairman Mao's mausoleum.
: Leaders of the protest, including Liu Xiaobo, the winner of last year's Nobel Peace prize, urged the students to depart the square, and the Chilean diplomat relayed that "once agreement was reached for the students to withdraw, linking hands to form a column, the students left the square through the south east corner." The testimony contradicts the reports of several journalists who were in Beijing at the time, who described soldiers "charging" into unarmed civilians and suggests the death toll on the
: night may be far lower than the thousands previously thought.
: In 2009, James Miles, who was the BBC correspondent in Beijing at the time, admitted that he had "conveyed the wrong impression" and that "there was no massacre on Tiananmen Square. Protesters who were still in the square when the army reached it were allowed to leave after negotiations with martial law troops [ ...] There was no Tiananmen Square massacre, but there was a Beijing massacre".
: Instead, the fiercest fighting took place at Muxidi, around three miles west of the square, where thousands of people had gathered spontaneously on the night of June 3 to halt the advance of the army.
: According to the Tiananmen Papers, a collection of internal Communist party files, soldiers started using live ammunition at around 10.30pm, after trying and failing to disperse the crowd with tear gas and rubber bullets. Incredulous, the crowd tried to escape but were hampered by its own roadblocks.
: The cables also reveal the extent to which the student democracy protests had won popular support, and how for several weeks the protesters effectively occupied the whole of central Beijing, posing an existential challenge to the Communist party.
: One cable, from May 21, 1989, reports that an anonymous caller had told the US consulate in Shenyang that Ni Zhifu, the chairman of China's labour unions, had condemned martial law in the capital and warned that unless the students were treated with more respect he would lead a general workers' strike that would cripple China.
: 摘要﹕ 六四当天凌晨的清场活动没有屠杀和流血事件﹐军队以棍棒驱逐学生﹐学生最後
: 达成协议被允许离开﹐武装士兵仅为清场部队提供了掩护﹐也有报道说当时出现零星
: 枪声但未证实流血事件。
: 流血事件发生在稍早的木犀地﹐“自发组织”的民众设置路障阻挡军队进入天安
: 门﹐军队在催泪弹和橡皮子弹无效的情况下开枪射击造成死伤﹐拦路者在逃窜过程中
: 被自己设置的路障阻挡。
: 请问﹕wiki解密真有这篇护航文﹖
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3F:推 forhealth:说的好 没电文文号还真的很难说是不是 61.219.100.230 09/15 19:35
4F:→ forhealth:真维解的东西 61.219.100.230 09/15 19:35
5F:→ forhealth:不过就算真的是 8^2还是有北京的屠杀 61.219.100.230 09/15 19:37
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7F:推 lkcs:十年前就看过了﹐还有一段说死亡人数500以内 183.5.28.172 09/16 11:23
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