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※ [本文转录自 IA 看板 #1ESM9FVh ] 作者: lotayuyuejia (lotayu) 看板: IA 标题: [新闻] wiki解密﹐美驻京使馆22年前密电 时间: Thu Sep 15 10:26:21 2011 标题: 新闻来源: (须有正确连结) 美驻京使馆密电表明﹐天安门广场无流血事件。部分西媒参与捏造。 Wikileaks: no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim Secret cables from the United States embassy in Beijing have shown there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square when China put down student pro-democracy demonstrations 22 years ago. The cables, obtained by WikiLeaks and released exclusively by The Daily Telegraph, partly confirm the Chinese government's account of the early hours of June 4, 1989, which has always insisted that soldiers did not massacre demonstrators inside Tiananmen Square. Instead, the cables show that Chinese soldiers opened fire on protesters outside the centre of Beijing, as they fought their way towards the square from the west of the city. Three cables were sent from the US embassy on June 3, in the hours leading up to the suppression, as diplomats realised that the final showdown between the protesters and soldiers was looming. The cables described the "10,000 to 15,000 helmeted armed troops" moving into the city, some of whom were "carrying automatic weapons". Meanwhile, "elite airborne troops" and "tank units" were said to be moving up from the south. The army came up against "an elaborate system of blockades", described in a cable from May 21, 1989, which allowed students to "control much of central Beijing". Diplomats observed that "there were buses turned sideways to form roadblocks" and students had vowed the army would not be able to cross. "But we doubt it", one cable added. Students also used teams of motorcycle couriers to communicate with the roadblocks, sending reinforcements where needed. As the troops moved in, the cables stated that diplomatic staff were repeatedly warned to "stay at home" unless involved in front-line reporting. "The situation in the centre of the city is very confused," said a cable from June 3. "Political officers at the Beijing Hotel reported that troops are pushing a large crowd east on Chang'an avenue. Although these troops appear not to be firing on the crowd, they report firing behind the troops coming from the square". Inside the square itself, a Chilean diplomat was on hand to give his US counterparts an eyewitness account of the final hours of the pro-democracy movement. "He watched the military enter the square and did not observe any mass firing of weapons into the crowds, although sporadic gunfire was heard. He said that most of the troops which entered the square were actually armed only with anti-riot gear – truncheons and wooden clubs; they were backed up by armed soldiers," a cable from July 1989 said. The diplomat, who was positioned next to a Red Cross station inside Tiananmen Square, said a line of troops surrounded him and "panicked" medical staff into fleeing. However, he said that there was "no mass firing into the crowd of students at the monument". According to internal Communist party files, released in 2001, 2,000 soldiers from the 38th army, together with 42 armoured vehicles, began slowly sweeping across the square from north to south at 4.30am on June 4. At the time, around 3,000 students were sitting around the Monument to the People's Heroes on the southern edge of the giant square, near Chairman Mao's mausoleum. Leaders of the protest, including Liu Xiaobo, the winner of last year's Nobel Peace prize, urged the students to depart the square, and the Chilean diplomat relayed that "once agreement was reached for the students to withdraw, linking hands to form a column, the students left the square through the south east corner." The testimony contradicts the reports of several journalists who were in Beijing at the time, who described soldiers "charging" into unarmed civilians and suggests the death toll on the night may be far lower than the thousands previously thought. In 2009, James Miles, who was the BBC correspondent in Beijing at the time, admitted that he had "conveyed the wrong impression" and that "there was no massacre on Tiananmen Square. Protesters who were still in the square when the army reached it were allowed to leave after negotiations with martial law troops [ ...] There was no Tiananmen Square massacre, but there was a Beijing massacre". Instead, the fiercest fighting took place at Muxidi, around three miles west of the square, where thousands of people had gathered spontaneously on the night of June 3 to halt the advance of the army. According to the Tiananmen Papers, a collection of internal Communist party files, soldiers started using live ammunition at around 10.30pm, after trying and failing to disperse the crowd with tear gas and rubber bullets. Incredulous, the crowd tried to escape but were hampered by its own roadblocks. The cables also reveal the extent to which the student democracy protests had won popular support, and how for several weeks the protesters effectively occupied the whole of central Beijing, posing an existential challenge to the Communist party. One cable, from May 21, 1989, reports that an anonymous caller had told the US consulate in Shenyang that Ni Zhifu, the chairman of China's labour unions, had condemned martial law in the capital and warned that unless the students were treated with more respect he would lead a general workers' strike that would cripple China. 摘要﹕ 六四当天凌晨的清场活动没有屠杀和流血事件﹐军队以棍棒驱逐学生﹐学生最後 达成协议被允许离开﹐武装士兵仅为清场部队提供了掩护﹐也有报道说当时出现零星 枪声但未证实流血事件。 流血事件发生在稍早的木犀地﹐“自发组织”的民众设置路障阻挡军队进入天安 门﹐军队在催泪弹和橡皮子弹无效的情况下开枪射击造成死伤﹐拦路者在逃窜过程中 被自己设置的路障阻挡。 请问﹕wiki解密真有这篇护航文﹖ ※每日每人发文、上限量为十篇,超过会劣文请注意 ⊕标题选用"新闻",请确切在标题与新闻来源处填入,否则可无条件移除(本行可移除) --



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3F:推 hsiawenc:天安门事件本来就不仅限於发生在天安门。 222.66.114.130 09/15 17:32
4F:推 soul1:标题杀人,wikileaks是说开枪发生在广场外 220.133.52.68 09/15 18:42
5F:→ soul1:不要断章取义只说广场内没死人 220.133.52.68 09/15 18:42
6F:→ soul1:原文後面还有一句广场外有死人 220.133.52.68 09/15 18:43
7F:→ Dean00:有人在宣传<媒炭是白色的>,还要人去相信它 112.105.109.95 09/15 19:54
8F:→ heiheidog:伟大的祖国领导下 煤炭当然是白的! 112.104.146.69 09/15 21:01
9F:→ heiheidog:如果是黑的公安也会叫你把它漆成白的 112.104.146.69 09/15 21:02
10F:→ heiheidog:所以你说煤炭是黑的还是白的? 112.104.146.69 09/15 21:03
11F:→ amazer:实际上侯德健、刘晓波早就证实了的,相关 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:16
12F:→ amazer:资料也证实了上述的描述,只不过有些人还是 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:16
13F:→ amazer:相信某些媒体的报道以及某些民运分子的谎言 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:17
14F:→ amazer:罢了!实际上仔细解读当年台湾人的报道,你 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:18
15F:→ amazer:很容易就发现多离谱,只不过很多东西大家 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:18
16F:→ amazer:都只看到自己想看到的东西罢了,和自己不一 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:19
17F:→ amazer:致的就不会去注意的 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:19
18F:→ amazer:当初死人主要在木樨地,解放军进城受到群众 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:22
19F:→ amazer:阻碍,很多旁观者以及两旁住宅内民众被扫射 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:23
20F:→ amazer:流弹击中丧生 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:23
21F:→ amazer:天安们广场发生的事有一位爱尔兰记者拍下 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:24
22F:→ amazer:视频记录的 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:25
23F:嘘 TERRIST:对对,我们都误会了(天安门广场)都没死人 111.184.20.52 09/15 21:31
24F:→ TERRIST:中共被误会了,那些屍体都不是(天安门广场) 111.184.20.52 09/15 21:31
25F:→ TERRIST:死的...中国政府好无辜喔 111.184.20.52 09/15 21:31
26F:→ amazer:都明确告诉你了主要死在木樨地,而非天安门 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:38
27F:→ amazer:广场,那种天安门广场清场死几千人的说法 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:39
28F:→ amazer:可以不用继续了,没必要装了 211.65.234.216 09/15 21:40
29F:嘘 TERRIST:是是是...中国政府是无辜的嘛我知道 111.184.20.52 09/15 21:40
30F:嘘 Change1224:呵呵,所以到底是死了多少人呢? 218.161.53.85 09/15 21:49
31F:→ Change1224:共产党这笔烂帐什麽时候要解密呢? 218.161.53.85 09/15 21:49
32F:→ morgen:228五十年,这个大概五百年~~ 218.35.211.112 09/15 22:27
33F:嘘 dwood123:还是镇压啊!在哪有差吗? 118.232.3.80 09/16 03:12
34F:推 lkcs:tooooooooooooold 59.42.231.144 09/16 11:18
35F:嘘 panzerleader:党好慈悲 都不杀人 182.235.190.61 09/16 19:26
36F:嘘 AchillesHust:有意思吗﹖那干嘛不承认木樨地有死人 125.34.78.245 09/16 23:51
37F:→ AchillesHust:干嘛这麽多年保持缄默﹖不是心虚吗 125.34.78.245 09/16 23:52
38F:→ william2001:画面会说话好吗。没死人?呵呵。 59.121.128.108 09/17 19:46







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