作者df93 (人生如梦,梦如人生)
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标题[讨论] 神化战犯名单
时间Fri Aug 8 22:42:12 2025
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推 speed2: 人永远都不会是神 因为神是灵 人则是灵+魂+肉体 XD 08/08 21:37
→ speed2: 一直强调要成为"没有神格的神人" 真的"高举自己" 08/08
21:39 → speed2: 召会晨兴圣言还是不断引用"神人"的概念 人成为神 但不在
08/08 21:58
→ speed2: 神格上.... 08/08 21:58
→ speed2: 圣经已经有"神的儿女" 就不用多此一举 08/08 22:02
→ speed2: 真正得救的人 是不会把自己等同於神的 反而谦让宜人..... 08/08 22:08
→ speed2: 谦让宜人包含爱、忍耐、恩慈、谦卑、怜恤、体谅、以及服从 08/08 22:09
→ speed2: 三一神的带领 我想o大是这样认为的吧? 08/08
22:10
跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂跂?
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有监於speed2仍然一如既往的以见缝插针,有机会就拼命踩两脚的方式来卡鄙派的油,所
以,希望Speed2能够『公正』的一并批判以下四人:
1.
亚他那修就曾经在《CONTRA ARIANOS》2:7中告诉读者:
他若与一个被造之物联合,或子(Son)不是真神,人就不可能被神化。除非披上的身体
那位,从性质而言,就是道,人就不可能被带入神的同在中。。。同样的,除非成为肉身
的道的性质是从父而来,也具有父的性质,人就不可能被神化。(For man would not
have been deified if he had been united with a creature, or if the Son had
not been true God, nor would man have been brought into the Father‘s
presence unless he who had put on the body had been his natural and true Words
… so also man would not have been deified unless the Word who became flesh
had been by nature from the Father and true and proper to him. )
2.
SERM. 81.6
奥古斯丁
The grace of God came to you and ‘gave you the power to become the sons of
God’ (John 1:12). Hear the voice of my Father saying, ‘I have said, you are
gods and all of you children of the Most High’ (Ps. 82:6). Since then they
are men, and the sons of men, if they are not the children of the Most High,,
they are lairs, for, ‘all men are lairs’ (Ps. 116:11). If they are the sons
of God, if they have been redeemed by the Saviour’s grace, if purchased with
the precious blood, if born again of water and of the Spirit, if
predestinated to be the inheritance of heave, then indeed they are children
of God. And so thereby are gods. What then would a lie have to do with you?
Fro Adam was a mere manChrist, man and GodGod, the Creator of all
creation. Adam a mere man, the man Christ, the mediator with God, the only
Son of the Father, the God- man. You, O man, are far from God, and God is far
above manbetween them the God man placed himself. Acknowleddge Christ and
by him as man ascend up to God.
神的恩典临及你们,赐於你们‘成为神儿众子(复数,sons)的能力’(约翰1:12)。
请听我父的声音,‘我曾说:你们是神,都是至高者的儿子。(诗篇82:6)’因着他们
是人,是人的儿子(复数,sons),如果他们还不是至高者的儿子,他们就是撒谎的(诗
篇116:11)。如果他们是神儿众子(复数,sons),如果他们是救主的恩典赎回来的,如
果他们是由宝血买回来的,如果他们是从水和灵重生的,如果他们是预定要承受天(国)
的,那麽他们就是神的儿女。就是神(复数,gods)。那些谎言跟你们又有何干呢?亚当
只是一个人;基督,是人又神;神,万物的创造者。你,哦人,是远离神的,神也是远离
人;而神人(指基督)把他自己放在他们之间。你要承认基督,借着他,人被升高到神那
里去。
Serm. 81.6, Pg 38.503, NPNF, Augustine of Hippo – 奥古斯丁
3.
马丁路德 讲道
受恩典帮助的人不再仅仅是人而已;神的恩典赐予他神的形像并神化了他,以致圣经也称
他为『神』和『神的儿子』。
《圣彼德与圣保罗之日的讲道》(1519)
正如神的话成了肉身,所以肉身成为话也是必须的。话成了肉身,正是为了叫肉身能成为
话。换言之,神成为人,为叫人成为神。所以,刚强的成为软弱的,为叫软弱的能成为刚
强的。话穿上了我们的形像和样式。
1514年耶诞节的讲道
4.
Commentaries on the Catholic Epistles
大公教会书信注释
By John Calvin
约翰加尔文着
2 Peter 1:1- -4
彼後1:1- -4
For we must consider from whence it is that God raises us up to such a height
of honor. We knowhow abject is the condition of our naturethat God, then,
should make himself ours, so that all his things should in a manner become
our things, the greatness of his grace cannot be sufficiently conceived by
our minds. Therefore this consideration alone ought to be abundantly
sufficient to make us to renounce the world and to carry us aloft to heaven.
Let us then mark, that the end of the gospel is, to render us eventually
conformable to God, and, if we may so speak, to deify us.
因此我们必须从神将我们提升达到之尊荣的高度来思考。我们知道我们的本性是如何的低
贱;而神却让祂自己成为我们的,好叫祂所有的一切能够成为我们的,祂恩典的味道无法
被我们的心思所完全参透。故此,这个观念本身就足以让我们舍弃世界,并将我们提升到
天使。让我们这麽说,福音的总结就是,至终将我们模成神的形像,或者我们能够说,神
化我们。(that the end of the gospel is, to render us eventually conformable
to God, and, if we may so speak, to deify us.)
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老夫秉承毛爷爷『为人民服务』的精神,把四位战犯和相关证据都列出来了。
希望『公义』+『正气泯然』+『大公无私』的『自封属灵人』能够以批判鄙会『同样的标
准
不然,你会被大家耻笑的。
当然,如果你觉得不过瘾?讲一声~~~~~老夫『战犯名单』长长一列,够你慢慢『处
决
还有,如果speed2能够证明自己具有『足够的神学专业背景』,以证明自己有能力断定鄙
派
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1F:→ speed2: 这篇扣帽子的方式,对我没用耶,没有人是属灵人喔^^ 08/08 23:13
2F:→ speed2: 而且我是回应O大,你急着回应,口水都流出来了,又想Kiss08/08 23:15
3F:→ speed2: 我喔?08/08 23:15
4F:→ speed2: 之前拿我性向做文章,又恶心说要亲我,你还没学乖喔?08/08 23:17
「没胆」+「双标」就说一说,不必唧唧歪歪一大堆
还有,老夫对男生没兴趣,你安全的很
5F:→ ostracize: df62=df93被水桶还能发文?!08/09 03:49
※ 编辑: df93 (27.125.248.125 马来西亚), 08/09/2025 11:39:26
※ 编辑: df93 (27.125.248.125 马来西亚), 08/09/2025 11:40:06
6F:→ speed2: 激将法也无效喔^^ 表定你是2025/10/28才出水桶,好意思再 08/09 15:17
7F:→ speed2: 挑衅喔? 08/09 15:17
8F:→ speed2: 知识使人自高自大,真是没说错 08/09 15:18
9F:→ speed2: 耶稣表示.... 08/09 15:22
10F:→ supercilious: 有一只猪骚扰女网友。 08/11 10:02