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标题Re: [问题] 罪到底是什麽?
时间Sat Jul 12 00:51:54 2025
※ 本文引用自 #1eSFxFTR (Christianity)
※ 引述 《around14358》 之铭言:
:
: 我至少给了你犹太教拉比的文章,你空口说白话什麽都没有。
: Google搜寻对十诫的说明如下。
你连查资料都不会。
以下出自於Talmud Bavli Shabbat 88b 89a
(塔木德·巴比伦塔木德)
关於天使抗议律法赐予人类
以及摩西的回答
When Moses ascended on High to receive the Torah, the ministering angels said be
fore the Holy One, Blessed be He: Master of the Universe, what is one born of a
woman doing here among us?
当摩西升到高处领受律法时,服侍的天使们在圣者面前说,祂是应当被称颂的:宇宙的主宰
,一个从妇人所生的在我们中间做什麽?
The Holy One, Blessed be He, said to them: He came to receive the Torah.
圣者对他们说,祂是应当被称颂的:他来领受律法。
The angels said before Him: The Torah is a hidden treasure that was concealed by
You 974 generations before the creation of the world, and You seek to give it t
o flesh and blood? ……The rightful place of God’s majesty, the Torah, is in th
e heavens.
天使们在祂面前说:律法是一个隐藏的宝藏,在世界被创造之前被你隐藏了974代,而你要
把它给血肉之躯?……神的威严的正当之处,律法,是在天上。
The Holy One, Blessed be He, said to Moses: Provide them with an answer as to wh
y the Torah should be given to the people.
圣者对摩西说,祂是应当被称颂的:给他们一个答案,关於为什麽律法应该被给予人民。
……
……
Moses said before Him: Master of the Universe, the Torah that You are giving me,
what is written in it?
摩西在祂面前说:宇宙的主宰,你给我的律法,里面写着什麽?
God said to him: “I am the Lord your God Who brought you out of Egypt from the
house of bondage” (Exodus 20:2).
神对他说:「我是耶和华你的神,曾将你从埃及地为奴之家领出来」(出埃及记20:2)。
Moses said to the angels: Did you descend to Egypt? Were you enslaved to Pharaoh
? Why should the Torah be yours?
摩西对天使们说:你们下到埃及了吗?你们被法老奴役了吗?为什麽律法应该是你们的?
Again Moses asked: What else is written in it? God said to him: “You shall have
no other gods before Me” (Exodus 20:3).
摩西又问:里面还写着什麽?神对他说:「除了我以外,你不可有别的神」(出埃及记20:3
)。
Moses said to the angels: Do you dwell among the nations who worship
摩西对天使们说:你们住在敬拜的民族中间吗
…… Again Moses asked: What else is written in it?
……摩西又问:里面还写着什麽?
God said to him: “You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shal
l not steal” (Exodus 20:13)
神对他说:「不可杀人,不可奸淫,不可偷盗」(出埃及记20:13)
Moses asked the angels: Is there jealousy among you, or is there an evil inclina
tion within you that would render these commandments relevant?
摩西问天使们:你们中间有嫉妒吗,或者你们里面有邪恶的倾向会使这些诫命与你们相关吗
?
Immediately they agreed with the Holy One, Blessed be He, that He made the right
decision to give the Torah to the people, and as it is stated: “God our Lord,
how glorious is Your name in all the earth” (Psalms 8:10), while “that Your ma
jesty is placed above the heavens” is not written because the angels agreed wit
h God that it is appropriate to give the Torah to the people on earth.
他们立即同意圣者,祂是应当被称颂的,祂做出了正确的决定将律法给予人民,正如所说:
「耶和华我们的主啊,你的名在全地何其美」(诗篇8:10),而「你的威严超乎诸天」没有
被写出来,
因为天使们同意神将律法给予地上的人民是合适的。
结论:
犹太教观点认为律法是透过天使赐给摩西的。
保罗说
「
加 3:19(新译):
律法是藉着天使经中保的手设立的;」
符合犹太教观点。
塔木德经文来源:
https://www.sefaria.org/Shabbat.88b.2?lang=bi
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