讨论要点： 1.基督徒占罗马帝国的人口数的比例 　要知道基督徒的人口数，罗马帝国的人口数，得知基督徒占罗马帝国的人口数的比例 2.讨论时间点 　不同时间点，基督徒占罗马帝国的人口数的比例可能会不同。 　我跟c大各选了两个时间点： 　(a)西元248年：俄利根写下”驳克里索”Contra Celsum一书 　(b)西元300年：戴克里先大迫害 各种不同来源的估计数据差异甚大，就我手边找到的资料如下： 　(b)西元300年：戴克里先大迫害 　　(i)Piero Scaruffi的罗马年表 http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/romans.html 　罗马帝国在西元300年，有总人口六千万，一千五百万人是基督徒， 　　　基督徒占总人口的25%。 　300: the population of the Roman Empire is 60 million (about 15 million 　Christians) 　(ii)Joseph McCabe: The Story Of Religious Controversy,Chapter XVI 以下将此书简称[1] 　各种不同来源的估计数据差异甚大。一般同意罗马帝国人口有一亿人， （这个来源的人口数，已经和上一个来源”一亿人”不相同了） 　基督徒的人数估计在五百万(吉朋)到五千万(Staudlin)。 First of all let us make quite sure that the triumph had not been substantially won, as ordinary believers think, and religious writers encourage them to think, before the conversion of Constantine. How many Christians were there in the Roman Empire in the first decade of the fourth century? That means, remember, nearly three hundred years after the death of Jesus, two hundred and fifty years after the supposed "immense multitude" of Christians (fertilized by the blood of martyrs) at Rome, and two centuries after Pliny is believed to have said that the temples were deserted in Bithynia. 根据二世纪史家Pliny记载”小亚细亚的庇推尼(使徒行传16:7)的寺庙荒废” （基督教盛行的影响） This point is of very great importance and interest, and we are going to study it for ourselves. One reason is that the estimate is difficult, and the figures vary from five millions to fifty millions! It is generally agreed that the population of the Roman Empire was at the time about one hundred millions, and I will set out here the estimates of the number of Christians among them that have been published by different historians who have made any sort of calculation: This point is of very great importance and interest, and we are going to study it for ourselves. One reason is that the estimate is difficult, and the figures vary from five millions to fifty millions! It is generally agreed that the population of the Roman Empire was at the time about one hundred millions, and I will set out here the estimates of the number of Christians among them that have been published by different historians who have made any sort of calculation: Gibbon .................. 5,000,000 Friedlander ............. 5,000,000 Richter ................. 6,000,000 Zockler ................. 7,000,000 La Bastie ............... 8,000,000 Chastel ................. 8,000,000 Schultze ................ 10,000,000 Keim .................... 16,000,000 Matter .................. 20,000,000 Staudlin ................ 50,000,000 依照此份资料，基督徒比例最低约5%(Gibbon)，或是最高约50%(Staudlin) 古代的人口统计，的确是令人困扰的一个问题。 ※ 引述《colin90149 (吞天之战鬼‧狂者)》之铭言： : ※ 引述《Geigemachen ()》之铭言： : : 西元302-311年左右，罗马帝国西半部人口有1/5是基督徒，东半部人口有1/2是基督徒 : 吉朋：按照奥利金无可辩驳的证据，信徒人数和未皈依的庞大人群相比起来，仍是微不 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 如你所言，这段引述我们无法确认。我找到了再讨论这个论点好了。 : 足道。但是，由於没有找到任何可信的资料，根本根本不可能肯定，甚至难以猜测早期 : 基督教徒的确实人数。不过，即使以安提阿和罗马为例做出最高估计，很难想像在君士 : 坦丁皇帝改信基督教以前，帝国已经有二十分之一以上的人民，投身到十字架的旗帜之 : 下 : According to the irreproachable testimony of Origen,* the proportion of the : faithful was very inconsiderable when compared with the multitude of an : unbelieving world; but, as we are left without any distinct information, it : is impossible to determine, and it is difficult even to conjecture, the real : numbers of the primitive Christians. The most favourable calculation, : however, that can be deduced from the examples of Antioch and of Rome will : not permit us to imagine that more than a twentieth part of the subjects of : the empire had enlisted themselves under the banner of the cross before the : important conversion of Constantine. : 以上 : 出自吉朋衰亡史十五章 : 既然是奥利根的说法 : 那这就算是可信的材料吧 : 虽然吉朋花了两三个小节阐述这个论点 : 更不用说他在十六章认为庞大的殉教人数比不是自己人互桶 -- 上月球!月球是中国人吴刚不可分割的一部分 抓嫦娥!此女意图分裂中国领土脱离中国掌握 杀玉兔!玉兔为资产阶级之玩物!日帝之玩偶! --

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