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标题[情报] 罗本对切尔西有多重要?
时间Mon Jul 30 14:16:05 2007
http://bluechampions.com/how-indispensable-is-robben-for-chelsea/
How indispensable is Robben for Chelsea?
The Robben story is on BBC now. This says that Robben has agreed his personal
terms with Real Madrid. But based on what Jose had said after the Bluewings
match yesterday, it doesn’t appear that Chelsea has allowed the player to
speak to Real Madrid, in which case, it is either illegal or false.
「罗本传」现在已经在BBC出现,他们说罗本已经跟皇马达成协议。但是从莫里尼奥昨天
的访谈看来,切尔西并没有让罗本与皇马对话,所以俱乐部这种行为是不合法也是错误
的。
Some rumours even say Robben deal would a swap of Cicinho or Cannavaro plus
cash. I dont see any intelligence in getting Cannavaro for Chelsea. If it’s
Cicinho, then we don’t have to pursue 30m Dani Alves any longer.
有些人甚至说罗本的转会将会是用西西尼奥或是卡那瓦罗二选一加上现金,我觉得把
卡那瓦罗弄来切尔西很蠢,如果是西西尼奥的话,那我们就不需要花3000万欧元买
阿尔维斯了。
Talking about reports and rumours, if you want to piss off any Arsenal buddy
of yours, just ask him if Palacio is joining Arsenal. If you don’t know the
background, here it is. A Brazilian kid wrote in his Boca Juniors blog that
Palacio is joining Arsenal and also spread this news in various Arsenal blogs
and forums himself. It spread to such an extent that ‘The Sun’ ran an
exclusive on ‘Palacio to Arsenal’ story alongwith few other papers and
believe me, the Boca Juniors president had to come out and issue a statement
that this is false. Above all, that kid came out and called the prank so
proudly. So, not everything that is published is true and you don’t need a
better example that this.
说到谣言,如果你想惹毛一个阿森那球迷的话,只要问他帕拉西澳去阿森那了没?
不了解?有一个巴西小鬼在他的柏卡青年队部落格上写了帕拉西澳要转会阿森那的新闻
,消息散布到一个地步,太阳报为此写了一篇「独家报导」,最後出动柏卡青年队主席
出面辟谣。一切都只因为一个死小孩的恶作剧。
The BBC report also says that we are claiming 15 million pounds and Real are
ready to pay only 12. Even at 15 million poounds, I feel Chelsea is
underselling a great prospect. He is just 23-year old, has not yet peaked in
his career and is a great talent. His constant injury niggles must have had
an influence to the price being discussed. For Chelsea, apart from the 04-05
season, we couldn’t see much of him at a longer periods of time.
BBC报导切尔西索价1500万英镑,但是皇马只准备付出1200万英镑。我觉得切尔西在做
赔本生意,罗本只有23岁(?),还没到达职业顶峰。持续的伤病影响了他的报价。在切
尔西,除了0405赛季,我们并不常常看到他。
Jose’s response on Robben story after the Bluewings match, is not all that
reassuring:
莫里尼奥对於罗本传的评论,似乎也不是很肯定:
The latest with Robben is that he played the game. I cannot tell you more
than that. At the moment he is a Chelsea player with two more years of
contract and he is working well. For me, he is a player like Terry or Lampard
with two more years of contract. I look at him as a Chelsea player and he has
to compete against very good wingers like we have. I am happy with the
situation.
现在最新情况是罗本刚打了比赛,罗本现在是切尔西球员而且还有两年合约,罗本必须
竞争边锋的位置,我很满意目前的情况。
Reminds me of what Henry was saying in May about his future at Arsenal.
还记得阿森纳的亨利在五月时说过的话吗?
See, I’m a great fan of Robben and would be sad to see him go. But if I have
to see objectively, the output Chelsea got from Robben and SWP (you know, I’
m not a great fan of him!) , there wasn’t too much difference, if you adjust
the goals, assists & shots to the playing minutes. The Robben effect on our
game and results has been diminishing over the last three seasons, I’ve to
admit. If you think, I’m seeing Robben this way because, he seems to be on
his way out, well, in a way you’re right.
好啦!我是一个罗本迷,也不想看他离去,但是客观点看,其实罗本跟小赖特的功率是
差不多的,如果你分析一下进球,助攻,射门次数还有上场时间的话,就会发现罗本在
场上的贡献正在一年年减少(这三年来的纪录),我必须承认,罗本正在慢慢的远离球队
。
Some statistics to explain things. Here GS is Games Started, SB is Sub
appearance, G is Goals, A is Assists, SH is Shots and SG is Shots on Goal.
以下是一些数据
比赛 首发 替补 进球 助攻 射门数 射正球门内数
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欧洲冠军盃0304 0 2 0 0 2 0
欧洲冠军盃0405 2 1 1 0 0 0
英超 14 4 7 9 51 35
足总杯 0 2 0 0 0 0
联赛杯 3 1 1 0 0 0
The above is the statistics of the 2004-05 season when he was one of the
architects of the historic title win.
以上是0405年数据,罗本帮助球队获得历史性的冠军。
比赛 首发 替补 进球 助攻 射门数 射正球门数
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
欧洲冠军盃 6 0 0 1 8 4
英超 21 7 6 2 46 26
足总杯 2 2 1 1 9 8
联赛杯 1 0 0 1 2 0
社区盾牌 1 0 0 0 0 0
Here is the statistics of the second season. Started and appeared in more
matches than in 2004-05, but ended up not bettering his earlier season.
这是0506的数据,罗本出场的次数变多了,但是其他数据反而比第一年更差了。
比赛 首发 替补 进球 助攻 射门数 射正球门数
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
欧洲冠军盃 3 5 1 1 11 3
英超 16 5 2 6 34 19
足总杯 2 2 0 0 8 5
联赛杯 2 1 0 1 6 5
社区盾牌 1 0 0 0 0 0
This is the last season. You can see the returns diminish. I don’t simply
value a player based on numbers. There are also intangibles like his
influence on the game and other colleagues, his creativity that causes chaos
in the opponent defence etc which are equally important, but all considered,
we have been getting less and less from Robben over the last three seasons.
这是去年的数据,数据变的更低,我不用数据评估一个球员,还有他在场上的作用以及
队友也要列入考虑,罗本的创造力,在敌区制造混乱的能力等等。但是三年评估下来,
我们能从罗本身上得到的已经越来越少了。
On the other hands, the fact that his effectiveness has diminished over the
last two seasons may not have any bearing on what he has to offer in the
coming years because, he is just 23 years and there is so much more in his
career. Now that he has come out of his injury, if he plays for a long
stretch of period without any further injury, he can be a great asset once
again, but given his injury profile, that’s quite a big ‘if’.
另一方面,罗本在过去两年的作用下降的事实也有可能不影响他之後几年的发挥,
他才23岁(?)还有很长的职业生涯,如果他能长时间的出赛,他会是很大的财富,
但是从他的病史来看,这个问号满大的。
If we’re going to buy Drenthe as a replacement for Robben, I’d feel
somewhat happy. I’ve seen Drenthe on youtube. He is fantastic. Well,
Baptista in Arsenal colours would also be brilliant, in a youtube
compilation. So, you always leave a discount factor to what you see on
youtube. Even after that Drenthe is still good. He can give a good run for
anyone’s money from Ashley Cole to Malouda.
如果我们要买进德轮特代替罗本,我会觉得很高兴。我曾经在你管上面观察德轮特。
他令人惊艳。不过在你管的视频上,阿森纳的巴浦第斯塔看起来也很强,所以必须要
在你管上面看到的打个折扣。要是德轮特真的很强,他同时也会让花在钱科跟马路达人
身上的钱有价值。
Also, you need to consider a fully-fit Joe Cole, hungry-to-prove Malouda,
highly-improved SWP, red-hot Scott Sinclair and possible-right-winger Sheva,
to see how Robben’s probable exit would impact us. Now you can add the
Drenthe possibility here to see the full picture. In fact, given the problem
of plenty that Jose faces, if Robben leaves, it might do good for Jose. Given
a choice, Jose could offload SWP and retain Robben.
同时你也要考虑到健康的桥柯尔,急於想表现自己的马路达人,进步很快的洨赖特,火红
的新克莱尔,可以打打右翼的色娃,来看看罗本走了到底对我们有什麽打击。也可以把德
轮特加进来。这目前来看,罗本若走了也许对教练少了一个麻烦的选择,但是如果让他选
择,他应该会留下罗本然後赶走洨赖特。
All said, I’d still hope Robben to stay. But if he doesn’t, I’d feel sad
that I’d be missing a quality player like Robben in Chelsea colours, but
Chelsea as a team should be able to cope quite well.
我还是希望罗本能留下,但是如果他走了,我会很失望切尔西放走了一个有实力的球员
,但是切尔西应该能承受这样的损失。
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我简单的只看英超出场次数,一个一年平均踢不到20场联赛的球员,就算在怎
麽利害,也没办法依靠他成就大业吧......
罗本去皇马可能更有前途,但是能不能多卖一点钱?
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好累
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※ 编辑: Santos 来自: 140.112.212.27 (07/30 14:21)
1F:推 CHAR:卡那瓦罗来吧 宇宙最强中後卫组合 07/30 16:10
2F:推 lowlydog:帕拉西澳去阿森那了没? 07/30 16:21
3F:推 heavygauge:巴普第斯塔在youtube上面看起来也很强XDDDDDDDDDD 07/30 19:44
4F:推 JamesCaesar:买一楼好了,这样可以三倍速 XDD 07/30 20:45
5F:推 kaneggyy:那你们球衣要换成红色的吗?XD 07/30 21:30
6F:推 JamesCaesar:没关系反正球衣上有小红花 07/30 21:33