作者NLchu (Network Layer)
看板Celtics
标题[外电] Bos is "trying hard" to get Love
时间Wed Jun 18 02:39:13 2014
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作者: wjsy
好久没翻C's的东西,最近搞的都是政治新闻
喔耶!老梗又来了! It's ☆L.O.V.E☆
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The latest rumor on Kevin Love from Chad Ford:
昨天Chad Ford讲的爱神八卦:
The Celtics were vert busy last week, holding workouts with Noah Vonleh,
Aaron Gordon, MArcus Smart, Julius Randle, Gary Harris, Nik Stauksas and
Doug McDermott, essentailly everyone they would consider with the No,6 pick.
上礼拜制服组很忙,把所有第六顺位的可能人选都拉来试训。
I still believe that Vonleh, Gordon and Smart are the heavy favorites if Boston
keeps the pick, with Gordon being the choise right now given the way we have
the draft board playing out.
基本上就这三个可能啦〈虽然我都不满意〉:Vonleh,Gordon跟Smart。
But I continue to get singnals that the celtics are trying hard to use the pick
No.6 and 17 along with future No.1s and young plarers such as Jared Sullinger
or Kelly Olynyk to persuade the Minnesota Timberwolves to trade Kevin Love. one
sourse close to the Wolves said that while Flip Saunders does not want to trade
Love, he realizes the team likely will lose him summer and the package the
Celtics are offering is probably the best he's going to get. Given the strength
of the draft, picks6, 13 and 17 could land them three young starters to help
them rebuild their roster quickly.
但我持续的收到C's正极力尝试运用两只首轮签〈一支今年加上未来一支〉、搭配年轻
球员例如Sully或Kelly来说服灰狼队交易Love,一个亲近灰狼方的来源透露,尽管很不愿
意,但Saunders也了解C's所给的八成也是市面上最好的包裹,三个14年的首轮签也能够帮
助他们快速重建〈想把两支都拿去啊!?〉。
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It's pretty much everything we've been hearing before. Even though the
Celtics have hosted a bunch of players in workouts and several have stuck
out, if a deal for Kevin Love looks realistic, all that work will be for
naught. A rumor surfaced a few days ago that Flip Saunders would make a deal
before draft night and he's taken shots at his star player publicly, but this
could all be GM gamesmanship and Love could start the season in Minnesota
despite his obvious overtures that Boston is a destination that he'd
certainly consider.
这大概跟我们之前听过的一模一样,如果这是真的那这几天不就白忙一场?几天前另一
个谣传说Saunders会在选秀夜前做出交易,并且公开尝试交易他的明星球员,但这也有可
能是个烟雾弹,而Love也大概仍会以灰狼球员的身分开始赛季;尽管他跟Boston一直在那
眉来眼去的。
Let's shelve the idea of Love-to-Boston and the possible/eventual dominoes
that could fall after that (Houston gifting us Omer Asik to make room for
Carmelo Anthony, Avery Bradley's restricted free agency, etc.) for a moment
and look at the potential deal. Ford suggests it could take both 2014 picks
plus young talent in Jared Sullinger and/or Kelly Olynyk plus future first
rounders and that Boston has the best package to offer the Timberwolves, but
is too much to give up for a 25-year-old Love?
先来讨论可能的最终方案吧〈撇除一切可能因素,例如火贱万用包之类的〉,我们难
道要给出两个14年首轮签以及未来的一支首轮,加上Sully或是Kelly来换取25岁的爱爱?
Yesterday, Stevens gushed at the way the Spurs played during the Finals. He
talked about their depth at every position and everybody being ready to play
when called upon:
前天帅哥才发表了他对於马刺队在总冠军战表现的心得:
"I just think everybody is so locked in to their role and trying to be the
best teammate they can be," said Stevens. "You see some games where those
guys play, some games where they don't play. They're very supportive of one
another. They're clearly on one mission. Against us, they didn't have three
of their starters the second time they came here and they drilled us. I think
that's who they've been all year. They've been able to sit guys, rest guys,
do all that stuff and never miss a beat. The way that they played and the way
that their young guys have increased their roles and the way that their old
guys have continued to play great and accept those young guys -- at the end
of the day, it's been a great thing to emulate."
「我看到每一个球员都如此的固守在自己的角色上,并尽其所能作为彼此的最佳战友
。」帅哥说「你会看到不同的比赛都会有人挺身而出,他们是彼此的最大支援,而且很明
显的专注於同一件任务上,季赛我们第二次对阵时,他们甚至没有摆上原有的先发阵容,
而且还拿我们来练兵〈喔呵呵= =〉,我想那就是他们整年在做的,马刺能够把他们的球员
按在板凳上、押回家休息,做这一切的同时还能不失任何节奏〈帅哥很含蓄啦,就是不准
任何人刷数据,这在其他队根本行不通〉,他们打球、增进年轻球员能力以及老鸟们维持
高水准并包容小夥子的种种方法──在各方面看来,都是值得效法的对象。
A Love trade would bring another superstar to pair with Rajon Rondo in Boston
but in my humble opinion, that seems more Miami and less San Antonio. With
the depth in this draft and Brad Stevens taking such a hands-on approach to
finding players that he wants to coach, I'm not so sure mortgaging so much of
the future on one player is worth it. Admittedly, I'm a prisoner of
intrigue. It's why Dante Exum looks so appealing and the multiple first
rounders in the next five years give us hope. However, hope doesn't win
championships and Danny Ainge is all about hanging banners in the rafters.
But let's remember that in the vaunted 17-year run San Antonio been on under
Greg Popovich, I can't remember a single moment when they had to "pull the
trigger." They just kept finding players that fit their system and molded
them into Spurs. They've made small moves to grab players that they love
(like trading George Hill for Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard), but for the most
part, patience has been one of their biggest virtues.
相较之下,将Love盘来Rondo身边的做法看来是更多的「火火」而少了「刺刺」一点,
看着Stevens在选秀试训中是如何积极寻找他想要执教的球员〈第一次嘛〉,我不太确定付
出这麽多代价去换取一个球员是否值得;未来的新秀看来是这麽的吸引人,而未来五年数
不清的签给了我们许多希望;尽管如此,希望没办法赢得冠军,而安吉总想在屋顶上再挂
上几面旗帜。
回过头来看,在马刺自豪的、在波波治理的过去十七年中,我无法记起任何一个他们
必须「扣下板机」的时刻,他们就是不断的寻找适合他们体系的球员并将其形塑成马刺要
的样子,或是进行一些小交易去得到锺爱的球员〈像是用Hill换来FMVP〉,但最重要的,
还是他们所秉持的、耐心的美德。
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我是觉得现在C's很有可能是跟灰狼讲好一搭一唱啦,就当个双面间谍这样,四换一也太
夸张,同样的价码拿去盘梦罗我想好多了,人家又乖~
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※ 编辑: NLchu (111.185.51.107), 06/18/2014 02:49:50
1F:推 sport0472001:买锅贴比较好 06/18 03:43
2F:推 jackysuyu :我也觉得筹码给太多了啦 06/18 03:59
3F:→ jackysuyu :要3个首轮 灰狼13签好歹也要吐出来 06/18 04:00
4F:→ NLchu :锅贴耍大牌。不喜欢 06/18 07:25
5F:推 sport0472001:如果同样的包裹 我比较想换甜瓜 虽然他比较老 但他 06/18 07:27
6F:→ sport0472001:有季後赛经验 06/18 07:27
7F:推 john61318 :#17+苏利+未来一轮 换LOVE 06/18 07:48
8F:→ john61318 :#6选Smart 06/18 07:49
9F:→ john61318 :今年2轮+BASS+小绿 换甜瓜 06/18 07:49
10F:→ john61318 :在看还有没有空间捡Okafor或Hawes 不然补个大白也好 06/18 07:50
11F:→ Rover :楼上出的价码也太低,灰狼跟尼克不会理你吧?XD 06/18 07:54
12F:推 john61318 :那只好加上老桑跟禅师两张裸照了 06/18 08:12
13F:推 auron4041 :感觉今年选秀又会是C's夺去目光 06/18 09:02
14F:推 bgp915117 :2轮+BASS+小绿 换甜瓜................. 06/18 09:21
15F:→ bgp915117 :别队随便出都比这好很多吧 尼克哪会鸟我们 06/18 09:22
16F:推 rubyyl0701 :j大抢真大XD 要换这两只#6是不可能留住的啦 06/18 09:22
17F:推 tseng40 :...我们今年没二轮喔~ 06/18 10:07
18F:推 lalascott :换爱出到四只首轮(14x2+15x1+Sully)也太多了吧 我 06/18 11:14
19F:→ lalascott :还在笑想当年Ray来连带KG一起被吸引的大交易 再能吸 06/18 11:14
20F:→ lalascott :到Melo的话Angie我就叫你神了 06/18 11:14
21F:推 lalascott :另外我觉得Melo应该满想走的 看看总教练位子上坐的某 06/18 11:19
22F:→ lalascott :鱼 怎麽看尼克都一点竞争力都没有 06/18 11:19
23F:→ piercepaul :除非Melo愿意再等一年,但明年他就31岁了 06/18 11:22
24F:推 lanver1220 :除此之外 不懂尼克在干嘛,给一堆/收一些 资新过高的 06/18 12:50
25F:→ lanver1220 :球员约合,却要求Melo降薪,是我心中一定不是滋味 06/18 12:51
26F:→ lanver1220 :看看义大利状元郎(自己收的) 拳王 阿骂(自己给的) 06/18 12:52
27F:推 lanver1220 :当初也没看到 残屍要求Kobe降薪,为了安抚Kobe还一直 06/18 12:57
28F:→ lanver1220 :说好话,打圆场。看看以前 看看现在...真的是两套标 06/18 12:58
29F:→ lanver1220 :准,手段粗糙呀 06/18 12:59
30F:推 cfcs2004 :能不能抢个攻守兼备的啊?Lebron?XD 06/18 13:41
31F:推 JackieShane :如果灰狼着眼的是快速重建,拿首轮应该不比年轻的即 06/18 13:43
32F:→ JackieShane :战力好吧 06/18 13:43
33F:推 gaiaesque :讨厌LBJ... 06/18 17:33
34F:推 tseng40 :老实说LBJ真的蛮适合我们的XD虽然也不会特别喜欢他 06/18 20:18
35F:→ tseng40 :但他和Rondo一起带年轻球员真的不错 06/18 20:19
36F:→ Rover :老实说LBJ大概适合全联盟每一队,只是打到最後终究会 06/18 21:23
37F:→ Rover :变回骑士队...因为他强到会改变整支队伍的结构 06/18 21:23
38F:→ Myosotis :同意楼上 他太耀眼了所以不行 06/18 21:31
39F:推 auron4041 :不想要 耀不耀眼无关 Boston是不需要有皇帝的 06/18 22:55
40F:→ auron4041 :我觉得我们需要的是一个可以在关键时刻让Rondo传球 06/18 22:59
41F:→ auron4041 :的时候 我们可以"啊 这球进了"的那种球员 06/18 23:01
42F:→ auron4041 :以前我觉得并希望Green和AB可以成为这种人 可惜 06/18 23:02
43F:→ auron4041 :要自己养出一个巨头似乎不是那麽简单 06/18 23:02
44F:推 feelike :我觉得能够追到Turner跟Gortat,我就很满足了 06/18 23:03
45F:→ auron4041 :以前Ray和PP只要在空档接到Rondo的传球 还没投我就有 06/18 23:03
46F:→ auron4041 :那种信心他们绝对会拿下那次进攻 06/18 23:04
47F:→ auron4041 :不知道甚麽时候还会有那种感觉... 06/18 23:04
48F:推 dixongossip :照这样说的话,我会比较想要K.Martin > Love XDDDD 06/18 23:57
49F:推 TT123 :Riley应该会出顶薪留LBJ,Wade、Bosh是其次.. 06/19 00:08
50F:→ TT123 :你看热火的阵容,少了LBJ後还有意义吗? 06/19 00:08
51F:→ TT123 :不管Wade肯不肯降薪,这支冠军队少不了LBJ 06/19 00:11
52F:推 mog044 :AB: 我也很敢投 你们怎麽都不相信我 06/19 00:18
53F:→ black2453 :虽然不甘我们的事——Wade不想降薪只要不跳出合约就 06/19 00:24
54F:→ black2453 :好啦 06/19 00:24
55F:→ black2453 :记得6/24~ 7/1好像是跳出合同的期限 是说我真希望JA 06/19 00:27
56F:→ black2453 :跳出... 06/19 00:27
57F:推 sport0472001:他都说他要执行了.... 06/19 01:16
58F:→ rubyyl0701 :JA跳出 有梦最美XD 好3.8M不领才有鬼 06/19 01:30
59F:→ NLchu :是我也执行,反正他打得很认真没关系 06/19 01:31
60F:推 jackysuyu :WADE不降喇叭肯定不留 到时准备把天赋到去新地方了 06/19 02:38
61F:推 pote85712 :公牛卖首轮耶 06/19 10:15
62F:推 lanver1220 :JA一辈子就是这两年会最爽,不用上场 还可以坐最前排 06/19 13:27
63F:→ lanver1220 :最重要还有人送钱给他。 06/19 13:27
64F:推 lalascott :别忘了今年还有另一个篮网交易来的配菜K.Bogan也是 06/19 16:01
65F:→ lalascott :5M领爽爽 都不用打最後还闹脾气连板凳席都不用坐 06/19 16:01
66F:推 TT123 :这5M很好交易..收这5M的球队可以直接挥弃不用付钱 06/19 20:45
67F:→ NLchu :无敌配菜 06/19 21:34